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John Crichton

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Just finished my two week run of watching the enitre show. I don't know what to think about the ending, honestly. I liked the show more for its subtleties. The ending was anything but that. They played it straight, and it doesn't fit for some reason. It makes some sense in context, but I think it is something that lookes good only on paper. There was a much better and more mature show in between though and that's what I'll remember from it.

Karol - who now (more than ever) fears of what he'll see on Lost finale this year.

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I was thinking of the same thing yesterday. Maybe she wanted to spare him a terrible death in nuclear explosion? Which still doesn't make sense. I think this is one of the things that happen with TV shows and film series. At some point they are inconsequential.

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I'm still puzzled why an Angel, carying out the commandments of the One True God looks exactly like a female Cylon who snapped the neck of a defenseless baby in the pilot.

Because Galactica's "God" is neither good or evil, those were invented by man. Doesn't Baltar say something like that in the finale when he's convincing Cavil to stand down?

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Because Galactica's "God" is neither good or evil, those were invented by man. Doesn't Baltar say something like that in the finale when he's convincing Cavil to stand down?

Which still doesn't explain why she does it. Not for me, anyway.

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Just finished Caprica pilot. For something that tries to ride on the success of BG it is surprisingly good. It's tone is different though. It might be good, if handled right. I hope it doesn't succumb to the prequel syndrome.

Oh, and I've seen The Plan and Razor too. Both unnecessary, to be honest.

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I'm still puzzled why an Angel, carying out the commandments of the One True God looks exactly like a female Cylon who snapped the neck of a defenseless baby in the pilot.

I don't think she is an angel at all. Instead, I think she is an ultra-advanced descendant of the Cylons; in other words, at some point in the (presumably) far future, the Cylons -- who continue to evolve once they leave to go off on their own in "Daybreak" -- attain some sort of time-travel ability and go back in the past to observe and influence events.

Presumably, season-four Kara Thrace is related to these beings in some way.

And no, that's definitely not the "Angel" Six who snaps the baby's neck. I always assumed that this was the first time Caprica Six had ever been close enough to a baby to touch one, and that the neck-snapping is as much an accident as anything else. She doesn't look too pleased to have done it.

I think this is one of the things that happen with TV shows and film series. At some point they are inconsequential.

Not the good ones.

Just finished Caprica pilot. For something that tries to ride on the success of BG it is surprisingly good. It's tone is different though. It might be good, if handled right. I hope it doesn't succumb to the prequel syndrome.

I liked the pilot a lot, and so far the series hasn't disappointed me at all. Typically fine McCreary music, if nothing else.

Oh, and I've seen The Plan and Razor too. Both unnecessary, to be honest.

Razor was unnecessary, but I at least found it to be entertaining on its own merits.

The Plan, on the other hand, was a bit of a dud all around. I didn't feel like it added a heck of a lot of anything to the overall story, and it's also unfocused and repetitive when looked at as a standalone story. But Dean Stockwell is great, and it does flesh out Cavill's character enough to make it at least worth seeing for fans. And to be fair, I only watched the Sci-Fi Channel version; maybe the DVD version is better.

Either way, I'll be buying that soundtrack.

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I think this is one of the things that happen with TV shows and film series. At some point they are inconsequential.

Not the good ones.

I think they all are. Lost is a very inconsequential. For example,

in season 4 finale Jack tells Ben that John said they have to come back to the island and that some terrible things happened and that it's all Jack's his fault (because he left). Ben asked him whether he knew that Ben is off the island and Jack says he knew. When we finally saw the scene between the two (in season 5) John doesn't say anything like that. And at that point he didn't even knew Ben was off the island, because they met after he left the hospital.

There are dozens of things like that in these shows. That's probably because there are many writers working on the show at different times and they change some details for various reasons. But that's what happens.

Just finished Caprica pilot. For something that tries to ride on the success of BG it is surprisingly good. It's tone is different though. It might be good, if handled right. I hope it doesn't succumb to the prequel syndrome.

I liked the pilot a lot, and so far the series hasn't disappointed me at all. Typically fine McCreary music, if nothing else.

I hope so. ;)

Karol

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I'm still puzzled why an Angel, carying out the commandments of the One True God looks exactly like a female Cylon who snapped the neck of a defenseless baby in the pilot.

I don't think she is an angel at all. Instead, I think she is an ultra-advanced descendant of the Cylons; in other words, at some point in the (presumably) far future, the Cylons -- who continue to evolve once they leave to go off on their own in "Daybreak" -- attain some sort of time-travel ability and go back in the past to observe and influence events.

Hmmm, that's a new spin on it. Not sure I agree, but it's an interesting thought.

And no, that's definitely not the "Angel" Six who snaps the baby's neck. I always assumed that this was the first time Caprica Six had ever been close enough to a baby to touch one, and that the neck-snapping is as much an accident as anything else. She doesn't look too pleased to have done it.

Yes, in the commentary I think Ron Moore, executive producer and developer of the new Battlestar Galactica (joke for those of us who have heard that intro at the start of every commentary ;) ), says that it's an accident, like she's checking out a new toy and breaks it.

I only watched the Sci-Fi Channel version; maybe the DVD version is better.

I'd be shocked if it wasn't. I never saw the broadcast cut, but I'm sure a lot was cut out. And not just the nudity.

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The Plan / Razor OST is now available from La La Land's official site: click

Of course, you can always order from Amazon as well: click

Oh, and Caprica is also on sale for $9.98 at La La Land's site

http://www.lalalandrecords.com

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I'd never gotten around to buying the Season 4 soundtrack, so yesterday I ordered that, Caprica, and The Plan/Razor, with McCreary's Dark Void tossed into the bargain as well.

That's a lot of Bear McCreary in one go, but I'm looking forward to getting that box in the mail.

I've liked what he's done on Human Target so far, too; hopefully that will get a soundtrack release at some point.

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I've liked what he's done on Human Target so far, too; hopefully that will get a soundtrack release at some point.

His HT music is getting better and better. The episode they recorded this last week sounded REALLY good.

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I got Caprica and Dark Void in the mail today and gave 'em both a spin.

That Caprica soundtrack is outstanding. The Greystone family theme is probably my favorite piece of McCreary music to date.

And Dark Void is awfully good, too. Sure, it sounds a lot like BSG music, but in what universe is that a bad thing? I was especially charmed by the retro version of the main theme that closes out the disc.

Somebody needs to sign this fellow up to score Marvel's Thor movie; if we can get that and then get Giacchino on Captain America, I'll be pleased as punch.

Speaking of Caprica, I thought tonight's episode was terrific. I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that a lot of fans will dislike the Tamara-as-Neo storyline, and I would have disliked it on paper, but in practice, I was extremely intrigued by it. Between that, the Cylon-as-corporate-savior plotline, and the Tauron family stuff with the Adamas, I thought this episode was just as rich as hell. For the first time, I completely buy the idea that Caprica has just as much storytelling potential as Battlestar Galactica had.

Hell, it's probably got more. Add to all the different themes mentioned above the religious themes, the terrorist elements, and the possibility of exploring the various worlds that comprise the Colonies, and man, there's a show that could run ten seasons, easy. And the whole thing could conceivably end with the first Cylon war beginning, and cycle itself into a third series!

Unfortunately, the ratings are abysmal, so this will probably never happen.

I'm planning on enjoying it while it lasts, though.

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Somebody needs to sign this fellow up to score Marvel's Thor movie; if we can get that and then get Giacchino on Captain America, I'll be pleased as punch.

dfhu&*)F

Sorry, I just drooled on my keyboard a bit there.

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Somebody needs to sign this fellow up to score Marvel's Thor movie; if we can get that and then get Giacchino on Captain America, I'll be pleased as punch.

dfhu&*)F

Sorry, I just drooled on my keyboard a bit there.

As well you should, sir; as well you should.

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Unfortunately, the ratings are abysmal, so this will probably never happen.

I'm planning on enjoying it while it lasts, though.

Rumour mill says Caprica will almost certainly be getting a second season, despite the less than stellar ratings. SyFi seem to believe in this series in a big way, and the positive critical reaction can't be hurting matters. Are you paying attention, Fox?

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Interesting. I hope that's true; I find myself liking the series more and more every week. This week's episode, which sets up Vergis as a major adversary for Daniel Greystone, marked another good step forward quality-wise.

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So, for any Sci-Fi fan, this came as a big blow. CAPRICA was announced as cancled. SyFy will air the next episode and hold the Final Four till 2011...

Now love it or hate it, CAPRICA was well done. Treated like the bastard child, the show never got enough press, never did the runs on the talk shows and was treated like a poorly run machine when the opposite was true.

Slow to build, the show had to establish, firmly, a plethora of characters... all three dimentional...all strong and weak... all important.

The first half of the season aired to 75% approval...and then blank... nothing... the show was on hiatus till 2011... when suddenly, from the ether... it returned... and began airing again, with little to no announcement.

Fans of the series were only just learning it was on when this week SyFy (in its intense wisdom) cancelled the show.

MIND YOU:

facebook/syfy has 166,000 followers.

facebook/Caprica has 101,000 ....

yea... and we're all pissed

I implore all of you to do this simple thing:

Call universal, ask to leave a message about the programming, and leave a message asking for the show to come back...and to get a second season. It was truly a gem... and was only gearing up to impress.

Call Universal:1-818-777-1000

Allisondra Toresani (Zoe Graystone-the first cylon) is leading a cause #SaveCaprica and we are sending apples to universal and syfy execs.

Please, love it or hate it, give the show a chance... at least call the number (we've already filled the voicemail box for syfy.com) and if you can, send an apple with the infinity symbol to Universal/SyFy headquarters.

Mark SternExecutive VP Original Programming

NBC Universal – Sci Fi Channel

100 Universal City PlazaBldg. 1400, 14th Floor

Universal City, CA 91608

Steve BurkeCEO of NBC/Universal

30 Rockefeller Plaza

New York, NY 10112

We're even getting press now:

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/10/caprica-apples/

Follow "Zoe" and "Sam" on twitter too! they're mobilizing too!

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The Hobbit's not a prequel because it was written and published before Lord of the Rings

As a movie, it definitely is a prequel, though. I'm sure it will be treated that way when making the film, taking special efforts to draw attentions to the little hints of the following books.

As for Caprica's cancellation, I'm not surprised, but I'm still sad. The show definitely hadn't hit its stride yet and I can see why many wouldn't find it appealing, but I liked it a lot. There was extensive work done to develop the characters in a way and quality like BSG.

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Trailer for the new BSG prequel Blood and Chrome:

http://io9.com/5895080/totally-badass-trailer-for-battlestar-galacticas-cylon-war-prequel-blood-and-chrome

Apparently it was a pilot for a new series and SyFy decided not to pick up the series, and will only be airing the pilot online. Lame. Bear McCreary scored it, confirmed by his twitter,

Dunno if this is an official teaser sanctioned by SyFy, or just something someone who worked on the show put together

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Looks unnecessary. The Immigrant Song cover is cool though.

.... you never saw the Girl With The Dragon Tattoo trailer it was written for? Or the Muppets trailer that parodied it? Or the actual Dragon Tattoo film that used it for the opening credits?

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In celebration of our forthcoming, limited edition release of Bear McCreary's score to BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: BLOOD & CHROME on 3/12, we are now offering all of our GALACTICA titles, BSG MINI-SERIES, BSG SEASONS 1-4, BSG THE PLAN/RAZOR and CAPRICA at the otherworldly sale price of only $9.98 each. For a limited time, only at www.lalalandrecords.com. So say we all!

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Ah, didn't scroll up enough to see those posts from 2010 he's responding to. Weird.

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Wow! Not only is BSG: Blood and Chrome coming out March 12, a soundtrack for Caprica is coming out in April!

LA-LA LAND RECORDS RE-ENGAGES IN THE CYLON WARS WITH TWO NEW SOUNDTRACKS COMPOSED BY BEAR MCCREARY

Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome on March 12th
Caprica: Original Television Soundtrack in April
(February 5, 2013 – Burbank, CA) La-La Land Records announces the release of two new soundtracks Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome on March 12th and Caprica: Original Television Soundtrack in April. Bear McCreary (The Walking Dead, Battlestar Galactica) composed the music for both series.
“In scoring the Battlestar Galactica prequels Caprica and Blood & Chrome, I returned to the unique combination of world and orchestral sounds that defined my previous score,” McCreary described. “But, both prequels had their own distinct approach. Caprica was interlaced with delicate chamber orchestra textures, solo harp and other-worldly source songs. Blood & Chrome is energized by heavy distorted-synthesizers and searing electric guitar performances. Listeners will hear, however, that all three series have a common musical DNA.”
Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome (a prequel to the critically acclaimed hit series, Battlestar Galactica) takes place in the midst of the First Cylon war. As the battle between humans and their creation, the sentient robotic Cylons, rages across the 12 colonial worlds, a young, talented fighter pilot, William Adama (Luke Pasqualino), finds himself assigned to one of the most powerful battlestars in the Colonial fleet: the Galactica. Full of ambition and in pursuit of the intense action that the Cylon war promises, Adama quickly finds himself at odds with his co-pilot, the battle-weary officer Coker (Ben Cotton). With only 47 days left in his tour of duty, Coker desires an end to battle just as much as Adama craves the start of it. Though they clash at first, the two men forge an unlikely bond when a routine escort mission with an enigmatic passenger (Lili Bordan) turns dangerous and becomes a pivotal one for the desperate fleet.
Blood & Chrome is the second prequel from the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series. The first was Caprica, which aired from 2009-2010. Though it only lasted one season, the series and its music cultivated their own loyal following.
“The Caprica series soundtrack was made possible by the tireless enthusiasm of the series’ passionate fans,” said McCreary. “After countless Tweets, Facebook posts, emails, questions and rants, fans made it clear they wanted to experience this music in album format. I am thrilled to collaborate once again with La-La Land Records to release more music from the Battlestar Galactica universe.”
Bear McCreary’s unique combination of atypical instrumental background (he is a professional accordionist) with rigorous classical training prepared him to compose for disparate genres. By the age of 24, McCreary was launched into pop culture history with his groundbreaking score to SyFy’s hit series Battlestar Galactica, for which he composed “the most innovative music on TV today” (Variety). It “fits the action so perfectly, it’s almost devastating: a sci-fi score like no other” (NPR). Io9.com declared Bear McCreary one of the Ten Best Science Fiction Composers of all time, listing him alongside legends John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith and Bernard Herrmann.
McCreary continues to write for the television show The Walking Dead. In 2013 he will lend his talents to SyFy and Trion World’s groundbreaking entertainment experience, Defiance, a combined launch of a MMO videogame and television series as well as Da Vinci’s Demons, a bold new historical fantasy series from David S. Goyer (co-writer of The Dark Knight trilogy) for STARZ. His upcoming film projects include Europa Report and Knights of Badassdom. His other credits include critically acclaimed scores for series such as Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Eureka and The Cape. His swashbuckling score for Human Target featured the largest orchestra ever assembled in the history of series television and earned him his first Emmy nomination. His videogame credits include SOCOM 4 and Dark Void.
Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome, can be watched as twelve 10-minute webisodes on Machinima.com and will air as a two-hour movie on Syfy on February 10, 2013. The DVD, BluRay, and digital download will be released on February 19, 2013.
La-La Land Records presents Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome (limited edition 3000 units) available at www.lalalandrecords.com and other soundtrack boutique retailers on March 12, 2013. Also available are the soundtracks for Battlestar Galactica: Season 1, Season 2, Season 3, Season 4, The Plan/Razor, and Caprica: Original Soundtrack from the Pilot Episode.
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