chinaismine 64 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 That log in page has been up for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 And where is this Sony page?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 http://starwars.sonyclassical.com/fanclub/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Oh, that's the same dopey link we've seen all day and even had it reported earlier that it was taking non-subscribers to a sign in page. So much ado about nothing.And Sony Classical and Lucasfilm wonder why they have such a bad reputation around here. Maybe because we can never take them at their word. First the UE is not every note that Williams wrote, then AOTC with the bonus cue was for sale at Target and not Wal-Mart as they had been telling us and now this mess. It's already April 5 in many parts of the world.Neil - who will now be surprised if this clip is even posted tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Well if this is the worst Sony screws up on this release I guess it'll be an improvement. And Neil, you forgot the re-release of the orignal trilogy that was supposed to be "digitally remastered". But I guess the screensavers worked okay. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielle 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It's up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E. Russell 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Indeed it is. According to MF.com:"The featured cue is 'Grievous speaks to Lord Sidious,' a rousing piece of adventurous music that accompanies General Grievous' flight to the sinkhole world of Utapau, where he makes holographic contact with his shadowy superior, Darth Sidious. The preview consists of 60 seconds of this new music." And so there it is. One MFer is impressed. Another is annoyed that he waiting all day for 60 seconds of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Heard it!The MFer's right, it's "rousing and militaristic." Sounds a bit like "Hook-Napped." Only thing I don't like is that the choir comes in Ringwraith-like near the end. There's no Sidious theme, in case you were wondering about that, based on the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It's not Quicktime and it cannot be saved.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 But you can still get it by recording the wave output with a program such as GoldWave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 188 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 All of you might want to check the Millenniumfalcon.com forums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 If you want this music go here. This thread is not for requests, but for discussion. No one wants to weed through 40 requests to get to one post talking about the music.I've heard it. I like it. I can't judge a thing though about this album though with only 90 seconds of music released so far. Neil - who can't believe so many JWFans could be wrong (in regards to the poll) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Neil - who can't believe so many JWFans could be wrong (in regards to the poll)I'll take credit for the only "Something Else" vote, but I thought it would be 30 seconds from each track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 188 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It sounds really interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesie 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 That... is... awesome. Really. Wow... And I think there's at least one motif in there... Maybe a theme... Wow... I wish all action music were that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It is good. But I really was bothered by the choir near the end. "The Black Rider," anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 The clip is sitting on my desktop right now.I am strangely facinated by it's icon.Ok,..I'm excited and nervous at the same ..It's a bit LOTR ish.I like it thought.I hoped to hear more of Battle of the Heroes though.Not bad for apperently random underscore.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It seems Eastern European inspired, in a sort of "Terminal" kind of way, but much more evil. I heard Grievous speaks with an Easter European voice, so maybe Williams caught that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Grievous is voiced by a sound editor. I'm not holding out hope for any kind of...dialect. :?More thoughts on the cue...this music probably accompanies Grievous landing on a shuttle and walking out of it, or walking out of it (some sort of combination there). Sidious' theme probably appears later in this track. I hope so! It's sorely missing on the AotC album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.E. Russell 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 If you listen to it along with the extant clips of "Battle of the Heroes" (orchestral ringtone and TV commercial music), you definitely hear a score starting to take shape. There are some parallels between "Heroes" and "Grievous," though I don't have the ear to tell if they're sharing motifs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It sure doesn't sound like talking music. If you want to hear talking music listen to AOTC.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It sure doesn't sound like talking music. If you want to hear talking music listen to AOTC.I'd dispute that, but you know what...? Neil's optimistic! That's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Meanwhile,the Battle of the Heroes clip in the trailer has grown on meK.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OK, the first part sounds to me like what was described in the Hyperspace report as "sounds like the start of Belly of the Steel Beast from Last Crusade". But that was for the start of the cue where Obi-Wan leaves to follow Greivous to Upatu.The chorus has to be part of a new theme. Any choir that actually spoke words from Williams I can ever remember hearing has been thematically based.Definately sounds good. I'm going to try to not listen to it more than a few times though, and save it for when we have more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Hmmmm...K.M.Excuse me?~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi_Macaroni 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 All of you might want to check the Millenniumfalcon.com forums...Some of us lack the skill and daring to traverse such a labyrinth of spoilers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Yep, the preview is up, and it's exactly that, 60 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I'ma likin' it!~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedismurf2 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I like it so far. I definitely has a dark militaristic motif much as the BotH, which makes sense seeing as this film will be thematically very similiar. The Grevious clip evokes the feeling of sweeping fly by shots intermixed with Grevious speaking to Sidious as he pilots a ship, which would explain its difference from the rather calmer talking music of AotC.The BotH theme is also growing on me, though I'd like to hear more. Maybe they'll release more tracks as time moves on.~Jedismurf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Guess we know the answer to the poll question now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 If "Belly of the Steel Beast" and "Call of the Champions" ever mated, it would sound like this clip.Neil - who wonders what TPM or AOTC cue will replace this in the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I must say, I'm quite enjoying this clip. Nice string stuff at the beginning, and that horn line is GREAT - kind of a pompous, march-like little motif. And I do like the chorus....I don't think it sounds too much like LotR (it's too short-lived and seemingly purposeful for that), and I don't necessarily think it's part of a new theme. But that's impossible to know for now - I'm just enjoying it!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I still like it but it seems they didn't work too hard for to find this clip and just put some random underscore.It doesn't feel like a "big" moment.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It might be the fun piece for Greivous that JW mentioned in the interview although the ending obviously wouldn't fit that. And he called it percussive, so I don't know. It is built more in a kind of rythmic sense as opposed to a strong melodic idea so that might be what he meant. I like it but its probably not very representative of what most of the score is going to sound like.- Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 It seems Eastern European inspired, in a sort of "Terminal" kind of way, but much more evil. That struck me too, all the turns in the strings, etc, it feels like something that could have been written by a Russian composer 150 years ago. Awesome so far!The choir is super, I would love to get to hear more of that end of the world, evil-doer choral stuff happening in this score. So neat from Williams.It's silly that now Shore has the corner on "big dramatic choir" since using the heck out of it (maybe overusing) in a hyped trilogy.This has an epic feel, as LOTR did, as it should. But I don't feel it as being associated with LOTR at all, just because it uses that type of choir.Epic, classic, dramatic. As far as the horn theme, I like the first 20 seconds the best. That seems to be a statement of that theme encapsulated. (At least for what we've gotten so far)Anyone notice 0:14-0:17...heard that somewhere before I believe... Excited to hear the rest now, this is impressive.Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mverta 15 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Good ears...The main melody to this cue is indeed very similar to a cue from the Harry Potter films. (Hedwig's Theme). Below is a comparison of the melody from this Grevious cue, and the melody from Hedwig's Theme.Both melodies are heard initally in E minor, and share almost the same melodic range. The sections marked in red are note-for-note identical until the end of the phrase, where the Ep3 cue extends a whole step higher before continuing to the concert G and then to the root. (For sake of reading, both cues are presented here in concert pitch, with all accidentals marked, no articulations).You can also see the extreme similarities in stepwise motion. All in all, these are melodies similar enough to have easily been found together in the same cue. They share not only notes and harmonic progression, but they're similar in spirit as well. I don't present this to undermine either cue; they're both modern-day Williams, and nobody should be surprised by their similarities. Interesting, though, huh?_Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxbabe 28 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Hmm.....and someone was just talking about JW's favorite keys.. LOL Seems he is fond of E minor.Greta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 798 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 You know what: I LIKE IT! In the end it's only a preview of what is likely to be a secondary track. It's a teaser for the score and a teaser never shows the best parts.I don't know what the guys at www.starwars.com have in store for Star Wars fans from this point on. Many have compared this to Harry Potter (over at various Star Wars boards), some to Lord Of The Rings.It will only take time before someone in here finds out that this cue is actually a hidden variation of The Emperor's Theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Many have compared this to Harry Potter (over at various Star Wars boards)And rightfully so (see above).Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 The piece rules - I like it the way I like the early half of 'Chase Through Coruscant' - such confident rhythmic writing. But the Harry Potter inclusion is strange. Hasn't this series got enough themes of its own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Hasn't this series got enough themes of its own?I wonder what will have more Hedwig music, ROTS or POA? Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 mverta, please prepare yourself for KM's wrath with respect to your avatar.Tim, very fearful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 798 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 And rightfully so (see above). I don't agree. Just because it may have four or five similar notes (same modulation, same sequence) still doesn't make this piece a COPY of Harry Potter. I have the feeling some now percieve the two compositions as IDENTICAL based on really a little fragment from both pieces.A little overblown.By the way: Mike Verta! Just saw your site (www.mikeverta.com)! That music your wrote for Forbidden Warrior....AMAZING!!!!!Welcome here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 What a Second Lord Vader.I will not be still for this.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Just heard.. Dunno what a think of the choir... Seems as I said about the Traile rMusic... Corny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zéyann 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I don't care how harry potter-ish or whatever other theme is sounds like, I like it. It's only 60 minutes, but I can't get enough of this! The cd can't come soon enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordskylark 1 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 This is the full que list (not all the tracks were listed on the homepage for some reason). I read somewhere before that there were 59 cues being recorded. I counted my list and I got 61 (but 1M1 and 1M2 are not new cues so that would bring it down to 59)1M1 - Fox Fanfare (old recording)1M2 - Star Wars Main Theme (old recording)1M3 - Boys into Battle1M3r- ????????????????????????????1M4 - They're Coming Around1M4a- Get 'em, R-21M5 - The Elevator Scene1M6 - Count Dooku's Entrance1M7 - The Death of Dooku1M8 - ????????????????????????????2M1 - <no title>2M2 - ????????????????????????????2M3 - Another Happy Landing2M4 - Revisiting Padme2M5 - Grievous Travels to Palpatine2M6 - Scenes and Dreams2M7 - Be Careful of Your Friend3M1 - Council Meeting3M2 - Hold Me3M2a- Palpatine's TV Set3M3 - Palpatine's Big Pitch3M4 - ???????????????????????????? 3M5 - Good-Bye, Old Friend3M6 - Going to Utapau3M7 - Riding the Lizard3M8 - Obi-Wan Fares [sic] Droids4M1x- Drawing Swords4M1a- Good Guys Arrive4M2 - ????????????????????????????4M3 - Palpatine's Seduction4M4 - Rolling with Grievous4M4a- Fighting with Grievous4M5 - Dialogue with Mace4M5a- Padme's Ruminations4M6 - I Am the Senate5M1 - Palpatine Instructs Anakin5M2 - ???????????????????????????? 5M3 - Lament5M3a- Bail's Escape5M4 - Swimming, Droids, and Yoda Farewell5M5 - News of the Attack5M6 - Moving Things Along5M7 - Anakin's Dark Deeds6M1 - It Can't Be6M2 - A Moody Trip6M3 - Padme's Visit6M4 - Heroes Collide6M5 - **Choir Only**6M6 - Yoda Falls6M7 - The Boys Continue6M8 - Rev. Yoda to Exile6M9 - Revenge of the Sith7M1 - The Immolation Scene7M2 - Anakin Crawling7M3 - The Birth of the Twins7M4 - The Death of Padme7M5 - Plans for the Twins7M6 - Padme's Funeral7M7 - A Home for the Twins7M8 - End Credits0M0 - Revenge of the Sith (DVD version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 The boys over at Millenniumfalcon.com forums also think it sounds more Potter than Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I liked it.And as someone said over at MF, it's clear the announcements are what's supposed to make us go nuts over this. In the end, it just seems like a random 60 seconds plucked off the soundtrack. But I think we can expect the music video of BotH to arrive on the OS soon, as the video for AtS and DoF did.- Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mmmm i think detractors will say Williams has hacked Shore, but to each their own...I cant believe Neil likes it. Now im really excited for this score Luke, who hopes he doesnt have to change his opinion when he sees the movie... Its me, or are you all calling a 4-5 note piece to be a cut 'n' paste thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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