Damo 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Well... what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Are we talking about the Original Trilogy scores or the Prequel scores?It makes a huge difference, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Are we talking about the Original Trilogy scores or the Prequel scores?It makes a huge difference, you know.Does It?Star Wars, Without a doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I voted for John Williams' score to OTHER (please specify).I also voted for Howard Shore's score to OTHER (please specify).I finally voted for my own score to FLATULENCE UNSEALED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Does It?Star Wars, Without a doubt If it were the Original Trilogy I would vote for that.But prequels versus LOTR scores???GO HOWIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 No way...LOTR = AverageStar Wars Prequels = Genius... Some of my favourite Williams scores... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 War of the Stars: The New Hope of the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 No way...LOTR = AverageStar Wars Prequels = Genius... Some of my favourite Williams scores...YEAH way!Star Wars prequels = 10 % brilliant, 30% very good 55 % average 5 % bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYPHER 1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 No competition. CYPHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 As a John Williams fan I have to say Star Wars despite my adoring remarks about the LOTR scores. To me both present brilliant movie scoring but Star Wars wins because it is a classic. LOTR comes darn close though. Tough since LOTR is one of my favorite books and I relate very strongly to the musical counterpart Shore has composed. Star Wars has lost some of its lustre because of the prequels(films not the music), but the music is better than ever despite some thematic dead ends along the way.JOHN WILLIAMS IS THE KING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Howard Shore's The Lord of the Rings scores are nice but I really can't see why people would jump the gun and proclaim them as equal to or even better than John Williams' Star Wars scores. I can listen to every minute of a SW score and not get bored, but by the fourth or fifth track of a LOTR score, I find myself hitting that fast-forward button quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I understand, I feel the same way about many of Williams scores of the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 As much as I respect Star Wars, I find myself listening to LotR far more these days, because it's part of the reason I got into scores. I don't think 'listens to/enjoys more' necessarily means better, just that you personally like it more:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 John Williams boards...I think i'll stick at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Drax.There are as many opinions as there are people. You feel that LOTR is boring. Fine. I like it. Fine. Opinions. There is no ultimate truth in the matters of taste and you can't make me see the error of my ways(in your opinion) no more than I can make you change your mind about LOTR or any thing you don't like. Or maybe you can if you are either very persistent or persuasive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I never said no one should like LOTR, I just don't understand its mass appeal as it drones on like filler music to me.EDIT: I never had enough patience for the book either. I never even finished the first part of FOTR, I just got past Tom Bombadil's house and gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 John Williams boards...I think i'll stick at home.This is a place of high intellectual debate about the merits of film music and John Williams. We dare not to sully our good names in pointless topics or low brow humor. Why stick at home when you can read our cultured posts written in well educated Queen's English. This is truly the most refined Message board and discussion forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 As much as I admire John Williams, and love the scores for the original trilogy (it virtually introduced me to music!) I am going to have to say that, for now at least, I prefer Shore's 'Lord of the Rings'. To me, it seems a much deeper and more complex score that has exciting, loud and fast passed sections but also slows down and has some truely beautiful sections. The sheer size of it cannot fail to impress either.I know I may be submitting myself to attack here with this. Overall though, Shore is yet to knock John Williams off the top spot for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I enjoy all of The Lord of the Rings scores very much, but either trilogy from Star Wars is better in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I enjoy all of The Lord of the Rings scores very much, but either trilogy from Star Wars is better in my opinion.No wonder you had Magnificent Ambersons taken away!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Somehow I just knew that you would be the first one to respond after that post. Hey, at least I like those Lord of the Rings scores a lot, unlike some others around here. What more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 The fatman has no taste in music. I suppose the same could be said of me and Torn Curtain.Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Somehow I just knew that you would be the first one to respond after that post. Hey, at least I like those Rings scores a lot, unlike some others around here. What more do you want?The only Rings score I know well enough are the ones that the almighty Richard Wagner composed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 And right on cue, the third stooge appears. You, of course are Curly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Wise guy, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Why "soitenly".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You have yet to develop your comedic skills. Oh wait you have! Your hilarious turn as Jabba the Hutt in ROTJ was outstanding especially the part where you got strangled by a barely clad Carrie Fisher. That shaking tail should have earned you a Razzie nomination at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You underestimate my powers. I'm the boy genius, rememeber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I find both Prequel and OT scores to be more interesting to listen to than Shore's Rings music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 You underestimate my powers. I'm the boy genius, rememeber?The Boy Blubber, you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Unlike you, I was not overweight as a child, let alone at birth for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Well what do you know, Star Wars is crushing the competition at a John Williams message board. Will wonders never cease?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Yeah. I'm acctually not sure what the results will be. :roll: Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Any of the 6 star wars scores, no question. For me, it's not even debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Comparing Williams to Shore on a Williams fan board ... excuse me when I laugh my ass off.PS: voted for Shore by the way I like my scores not over- orchestrated. Star Wars' themes are brilliant, but the rest of the underscore doesn't do it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Need I say who I voted for?K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Comparing Williams to Shore on a Williams fan board ... excuse me when I laugh my ass off.PS: voted for Shore by the way I like my scores not over- orchestrated. Star Wars' themes are brilliant, but the rest of the underscore doesn't do it for me.Over-orchestrated???? That's plain idiotic, when you take a look at the constant bland orchestration by Howard Shore (If he even does his own orchestration....)Hmm.. lets just stick in some arpeggiated double basses and timpanis and stick heavy brass and choir over the top... WOW! Williams' Orchestration is colourful and perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Comparing Williams orchestrations to Shore's is another "not-debatable" debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Maybe "over- orchestrated" was the wrong word. I mean I don't really appreciate it when the entire orchestra bursts out with lots and lots of counterpoints, with every section doing something else. It's great from a technical point of view, but I can't enjoy that.And of course this whole debate is "non- debatable". Williams is great in his way and so is Shore; and they are different, there's no point in comparing them! If you love Williams, it's very likely that you'll find Shore very monotone. And if you love Shore, you might find Williams too chaotic (for the lack of a better word). I know quite a few who find that Williams does "too much". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I have only listened to Fellowship from Lord of the Rings so i can't compare the series. However if i compare Fellowship to the lesser of the Star Wars scores, Attack of The Clones, Fellowship looks like a piece of garbage. So yeah, you know where my vote goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamsid 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I would say that howard shore and williams are equal, though i do think that williams is not as good as he used to be, i guess you can only be on top for so long. Howard shore is currently at his highest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Even when you add in the prequels (especially "Attack of the Clones") I still like the Star Wars series' music better. More variety. More emotion. More punch.I can think of only two or three musical moments in the entire "LOTR" saga that stick out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamsid 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I guess in the end its is all down to individual taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Star Wars by a mile! The last two Star Wars scores may not have been up to much, but even they are better than the LOTR scores. James (gritting his teeth and waiting for Stefancos' rebuke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Comparing AOTC to FOTR, TTT, or ROTK is like comparing the weight of a BMW to that of a fully loaded 18 wheeler.The BMW always gets crushed.Justin - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Justin, you ignorant slut.~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Star Wars, especially Revenge of the Sith. I like Lord of the Rings, but not as much as Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It's like the LOTR footy team being stomped 29-5 by SW at the John Williams Stadium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 ROTS is better that all the Ring scores put together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 As long as we're up to this polemic bashing, I'd say that Shore's Silver Trumpet theme is better than anything JW came up with for the prequel trilogy and ROTJ (if you put aside The Dark Side Beckons; this one's a holy grail ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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