King Mark 3,631 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 New episode now...k.M.Tuned in HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Are we supposed to post spoiler alerts or use invisotext in this thread? It would seem kind of needless, but in any case, spoiler alerts:So, I'm thinking that Juliet may be still on the Others' side, and was left back to act as a double agent or something. And the same could even be true for Jack. Or not...you never really know. But I liked tonight's episode. The Juliet/Kate dynamic was fun to see, and the Sawyer subplot was a nice counterpoint to the heavier stuff. Next week looks good too!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futuremartymcfly 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Definitely Juliet is still with the Others. Whenever Sayid says something about them, or has a suspicion, he's always been right. Besides, if Juliet wasn't still with the Others, I wouldn't see how the plot could advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 So it would appear the Others don't know what the smoke monster is. (it still sounds like a T-Rex). I don't trust Juliet either. It also appears the Lost universe is a small one, Kate meeting the lady Sawyer conned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Anyone else notice that Kate's mom is Aunt Zelda from Sabrina the Teenage Witch? Ray Barnsbury - not to sure if he likes the whole smoke monster plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 OH, yeah, I didn't notice it, but you're right, it's Aunt Zelda!Still one of the Others or not, I like Juliet a lot. One of my favorite characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 So the others built that fence to keep out the smoke monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 No, there's apparently a DHARMA logo on the fence somewhere, and the fence was indicated on the DHARMA map from Enter 77 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 The question is... who controls the monster? I had always thought it was The Others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 I always thought it was some sort of DHARMA experiment gone out of control.Could there be a third party involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Given the way the show is going it wouldn't suprise me.We haven't even gotten to Desmond's girlfriend and the two guys from the end of season 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I also really liked last night's episode. I'm glad that Jack is finally going back to the "good guys".Where was Locke in last night's episode? Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Locke has gone off with the others. At least that's what he told Kate at the start of the episode.I expect the show will jump back in time at some point to show what happened between Ben showing him what came out of that magic box to saying goodbye to Kate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Locke may be forced to act that way due to his "father" beeing captive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 6, 2007 Author Share Posted April 6, 2007 I guess we won't know until The Brig airs in early May, when we finally see Locke confront his dad (at least I gather as much from the next few episode summaries). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I always thought it was some sort of DHARMA experiment gone out of control.Yeah, that's my guess, too. It's annoying, though, that after two years, when we're finally shown the ways of life the Others... it turns that half of the things the Others apparently did are done by someone else.Could there be a third party involved?Well, there was a rift between the DHARMA people and the Others (remember, the Others were referred to as "the hostiles" by the guy who was in the hatch with Desmond), so if any of them stayed in the island they are the third party. I reckon that this third party will eventually be an excuse for a "deus ex machina" and will tie a lot of knots very quickly at the end of the series. I don't know, I guess shifting the control of the island to this hypothetical group was a trick the writers used to buy themselves some more time, although the dynamic between them and the 815 people is proving to be the best aspect of a very solid season so far.It also appears the Lost universe is a small one, Kate meeting the lady Sawyer conned.After two years of flashbacking to the same stories and dragging them on for ever, they have to resort to the "wow" factor. I mean, if you ignore the coolness of that coincidence, Kate's flashback was a very lame filler in reality. All she did was go back home to check everything was as she thought it was, and then she went away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 6, 2007 Author Share Posted April 6, 2007 But there were some thematic paralels with the island story that were emphasizing the Juliette/Kate stuff. But Cassidy being around for the entire episode felt a bit forced somehow. And yet I didn't have that problem with the Ana-Lucia/Christian Shephard connection in Two for the Road. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 By now there should be more answers about the hatch.Why was it there?What was it built over?What actually happened when it blew up?Apparently The Others have no idea about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 6, 2007 Author Share Posted April 6, 2007 I think last season's finale has lead to a much more Others-oriented story then a DHARMA-oriented one for this year, although there is a flashback to the seventies coming up in the tantalizingly titled The Man Behind the Curtain.I can't say I've really missed the hatch stuff so far, although I too would like to know more about the Incident and all that stuff connected with DHARMA and the hatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I'm not surprised more flashback connections are popping up, and I rather expect to see more like the recent one in the future. It seems these connections are at least part of the reason for this specific group of people ending up on the island, so I'd assume there's something more important behind them than simple split second chance meetings.As for the Others... how were they supposed to "leave", and why would they have done that so suddenly? Seems more likely to me that they've just disappeared for a while and left Juliet as a spy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 It seems these connections are at least part of the reason for this specific group of people ending up on the island, so I'd assume there's something more important behind them than simple split second chance meetings.No, Lindelof and Cuse once stated that it just happens, for no reason whatsoever. There isn't much to it really, not counting the fact that they influence each others lives.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 But does that go for every crossover, or just the minor ones, like Locke doing maintenence at Nadia's house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 They said it doesn't matter, so it doesn't, I guess. But then again there are some other connections thet seem important. I don't know...Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 But it seems everyone on the island, outside of the Others, has crossed paths with someone either on the flight or someone that person knew. Are they going to play a part in the story or are they just there for the audience to enjoy and add to overloaded plot line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 That's what I'm wondering. Especially with the more major crossovers. I can see how something like Sayid meeting Kate's father or Locke meeting Nadia is just a little easter egg, but stuff like Kate hanging out with Cassidy and Claire being Jack's half-sister could have potential repercussions on the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Twin Peaks anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Or Sayid being trained by the man who ending up saving Desmond from his shipwreck and now works for Dharma, well until Desmond accidently killed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Yes it's all becoming clear isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 This show truly makes you feel LOST, doesn't it?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Honestly? I feel like I'm reading a book and that somewhat concerns me as to how this show is going to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 are they just there for the audience to enjoy and add to overloaded plot line?I think that is exactly what's it's all about.But you never know.And as far as the ending is concerned, I think it will just stop. I wouldn't expect such thing as grand finale to all of this mess. But I hope they'll at least solve at least characters' personal arcs in a compelling way. Because Lost is not so much about "S-f/horror/adventure show that takes itself too seriously", but more of a "drama show that doesn't take itself too seriously". That's why I love it so much.Karol, who is somewhat Goldsmithed lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I agree with the crocodile. Except for Jack's dad, of course. After all, he is not only the Shepard's dad, but also a Shepard himself.You know, the whole Shepard/shepherd-sounding-alike thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I kind of feel like even if Lost ends well, poeple will still not be satisfied. This coming from a guy that is really starting to get tired of the question build-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 great episode tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Yes it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I liked it too. But then again I liked all episodes after the break.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 Good stuff, yes. I have a feeling Juliet's comment to Sayid and Sawyer, how "the last thing you need is more blood on your hands," has more significance than we might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Will she betray Jack and the survivors or will she fullfill her duty to the Others???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 Wouldn't that be the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I was being over-dramatic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 That's not funny at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Actually I wanted to put a sound clip of Peter Griffin doing his vocal suspense music after your original "blood on hands" post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 So we still don't know who the others really are.Juliet seems the only one "recruited" from the outside to help with a specific problem of the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 I think there was a bunch of setups in that flashback that are going to come into play in the final episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futuremartymcfly 0 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Danielle Rousso makes everything more interesting. Did this infertility thing happen after she arrived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I think there was a bunch of setups in that flashback that are going to come into play in the final episodes.Plus it looks like we'll see what happened to Locke and why he's going with the Others and we are due for a flashback episode for Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I think that this episode will play a great deal into the overall story-arc. I don't know about you, but I'm really starting to dislike Juliet. She is such a manipulator and liar. Hopefully she will redeem herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 we are due for a flashback episode for Ben.I agree. I like to call that episode "season finale". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I wonder if the island intrinsic properties had something to do with the magnetic thing in the hatch.Now that it's destroyed maybe island properties will be changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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