Star Wars Episode 8 poll (TFA Spoilers)

[Jay 37,368]

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[crocodile 8,017]

As much as I understand the need to extend the Skywalker clan saga, it's already happening of Ben/Kylo. That's a big enough story. I think another reveal like that would just cheapen the story (as it happened with Luke and Leia in Jedi, for instance). I want a character that makes their own decision and can grow, without too much of a destiny burden. Rey is strong enough of a character to develop without the needless backstory. I like the idea that we don't know who she was, and we can fill in gaps in our minds. And I also think that the lack of identity might be a strong enough drive for her to start caring about other characters. It would have been pretty disappointing if the only people ever influencing the galaxy, and in a negative way, were Skywalkers. Why are they even allowed to breed is beyond me.

 

She could be related to someone we've met. I can live with that. But enough of that soap opera already. Just tell a story of a protagonist that needs to find her way in a grand galaxy without a help of genes.

 

And I also want the galaxy far far way to be vast, and not the size of a local neighbourhood.

 

Karol

[Quintus 5,399]

Sorry to be awkward, but I would prefer her parentage to be explained but to not necessarily be featured. 

[Jay 37,368]

How is that awkward?

[JWMike 117]

Luke to be the daddy is what I got from the film, so that's what makes sense to me right now. I could understand her having other parents as long as Luke is intimately involved with her early upbringing/the death of her real parents or something along those lines.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I'm more in line with Quint in that I think it needs to be explained in some fashion, but that those characters need not feature in the film at all. It's a crucial part of her character, after all she's been living in poverty on a shitty planet her whole life because she thinks they're coming back.

[crocodile 8,017]

The key to how I see all of this lies in this exchange between Maz and Rey:

 

Maz Kanata: Dear child, I see your eyes; you already know the truth. Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku, they're never coming back. But there's someone who still could.

Rey: ...Luke.

Maz Kanata: The belonging you seek is not behind you, it is ahead.

 

For me, it is more powerful when a character needs to learn something and grow, out of their own will. Backstory and plotty explanations always come off weak. In The Empire Strikes Back, Vader's revelation made sense, because we already had a very different picture of this character our heads, and Obi-Wan was the father figure to Luke. And it also tied it nicely to Yoda's warning. It fulfilled several things. I don't see how it could enrich Rey's story, now that we know three generations of the Skywalker family. And, quite frankly, they are all bastards.

 

Besides, what is a point of having twists like that when we all see them coming? I thought they were wise in handling Kylo Ren's backstory the way they did.

 

Karol

[Cerebral Cortex 3,357]

Perhaps Luke could have known her parents? Perhaps she was one of the children Luke started to train or was going to train. He could sense that she was very strong with the force, much like Ben, and after he went to the dark side Luke sent Rey away fearing she might be tempted as well.

I guess that wouldn't really explain why her parents are no longer with her so maybe scrap that. Darn, thought I was onto something. I do like the idea that Luke has knew her but isn't related to her, though. Also, apologies if this notion has already been brought up. 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

She's Mutt Williams' little sister. Somewhere her grandpa is laughing.

[Sir Hilary Bray 235]

Initially I felt that maybe she was Han and Leia's daughter but then swayed to Luke's. Makes sense she'd be abandoned on Tatooine-Mark II if she's Luke's concerning the Force. Just the way it feels it'll go concerning the next two films.

 

Something about her family that needs explaining, if as above, not in any great detail. I wonder if any of these new Star Wars book will look into it.

[leeallen01 2,136]

I want her to be a no one as I've said before, but I think an interesting idea would be that considering Kylo Ren was born from heroes and chose the dark side, what if Rey was born was villains and chose the light side? 

[Jay 37,368]

Born from the villlains?

 

The villain in the OT was the hero's dad so it's the same family!

 

Unless you mean Palpatine, but he died 30 years ago and she's in her 20s!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

She's her own independent woman. She don't need no parents!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

You go girl!

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

I hope she's Snoke's force-conceived daughter.  

[Quintus 5,399]

11 hours ago, Jay said:

How is that awkward?

 

Because it isn't an option in the poll. 

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Fuck the poll options! Fuck 'em!

[Quintus 5,399]

Some people just want to watch the world burn. 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

It wasch Schnoke!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Brónach 1,302]

I'd prefer Rey not to be the daughter of someone we already know. The heritage of those characters doesn't have to be that literal. Like Kylo's line going "you feel he's the father you never had" and that kind of stuff. Besides it would make the universe feel even smaller.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Anyone want to comment on one of Rey's first lines in TFA?

 

"Classified? Me too, big secret."

 

That's really the only line in the film that actually hints that she might know something of her own background.

 

If she was hidden away on Jakuu because of her lineage or possible Force Sensitivity then it must be after Luke's attempt to train a new generation of Jedi failed and he went into seclusion.

This actually gives a hint as to how long it was that this happened. Since we see Rey being left at the desert world a child between I dunno 7 and 9?

 

 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

*edit*

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

How is that relevant to this poll though?

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

oops, mistook this for the "what are you expecting from Episode 8 thread".  Disregard.  

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

*shakes head*

[Cerebral Cortex 3,357]

1 hour ago, Stefancos said:

Anyone want to comment on one of Rey's first lines in TFA?

 

"Classified? Me too, big secret."

 

That's really the only line in the film that actually hints that she might know something of her own background.

 

I interpreted the line as her just being sarcastic. 

[Sharkissimo 1,973]

I'd prefer her parents to be nobodies. By making one of them a Skywalker turns the Star Wars universe into rural Arkansas.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

When will SW characters leave that stupid galaxy and explore a new one? There was obviously a different galaxy nearby out the window in ESB.

[Jay 37,368]

2 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said:

 

I interpreted the line as her just being sarcastic. 

 

Me too

[leeallen01 2,136]

15 hours ago, Jay said:

Born from the villlains?

 

The villain in the OT was the hero's dad so it's the same family!

 

Unless you mean Palpatine, but he died 30 years ago and she's in her 20s!

 

 

It doesn't necessarily have to be a known villain. Could be a new threat introduced in Ep 8 that has been looking for her etc or perhaps an existing evil that is just smaller than the obvious ones maybe. 

20 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

Me too

 

Me three, but that could be what they want us to believe.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Rey isn't Han Solo's daughter. It would take too much convolution to explain why he doesn't recognize her or pretends to not know who she is. Don't know why anyone thinks that's an option.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

There is nothing about the new Star Wars that suggest it will delve into such deep levels of explanation and exposition.

 

I agree with Koray.

[Wojo 2,453]

I'd be disappointed if a scruffy looking space pirate with a spoiled brat for a son also had such a refined posh girl for the daughter, and neither the brat nor pirate recognized her. 

 

Unless Han, Leia, and Ben never knew about her or were under the impression she died at birth. Maybe Uncle Luke switched her at birth with Ben or said she was stillborn and whisked her away. 

 

That's just crap. 

[Jay 37,368]

Hey that could be the twist in Episode 8.  That Kylo Ren isn't actually Han&Leia's son.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Does Star Wars really need twists though?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

They need to get Shyamalan to write it. He'll fix it!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Oh God!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

4 hours ago, Woj said:

I'd be disappointed if a scruffy looking space pirate with a spoiled brat for a son also had such a refined posh girl for the daughter, and neither the brat nor pirate recognized her. 

 

Unless Han, Leia, and Ben never knew about her or were under the impression she died at birth. Maybe Uncle Luke switched her at birth with Ben or said she was stillborn and whisked her away. 

 

That's just crap. 

 

This sort of thing happens daily at 4:30pm on Channel 10.

[KK 3,307]

6 hours ago, Jay said:

Hey that could be the twist in Episode 8.  That Kylo Ren isn't actually Han&Leia's son.

 

In classic soap opera style...makes sense.

 

But really...

10 hours ago, Sharky said:

I'd prefer her parents to be nobodies. By making one of them a Skywalker turns the Star Wars universe into rural Arkansas.

 

This.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

An IMDb poster said he reckons Rey might be Anakin reincarnated. I could see that if the Episode 8 script is as weird as they say.

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

These dudes make a compelling case for this theory:

 

 

Be patient with this longer one:

 

[Wojo 2,453]

There's no precedent for reincarnation as shown in the movie franchise, nor any indication that such a cosmic soul reassignment would take factors like sand and planets and family abandonment into account. Next! 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

7 hours ago, Woj said:

There's no precedent for reincarnation as shown in the movie franchise

 

Not too late to try!

 

The whole virgin birth thing was also unprecedented until TPM, but it happened. This one would be an appropriate way to shock and awe general audiences. While people are arguing over frivilous things like whether Rey's parents are either Luke or Han/Leia, which is so predictable it's boring, the franchise might be cooking up something like this that might not be as outlandish as it seems at first glance.

 

We've been through the whole family member vs family member twin/son/daughter-of schtick before in SW. It's time for the story to grow and expand into new and uncharted spiritual territory. And I think this reincarnation theory, if put into practice would really bring this nine-part saga full circle. Yet again, it's just a theory, but one I'm very intrigued by.

[leeallen01 2,136]

That is the first fan-theory that I can definitely get behind, for the reasons said and that I have thought myself (that revealing her as an original trilogy characters daughter is a bit meh...like we all expect it and it's obvious) and she can't be just a no one because they wouldn't do that. They clearly intend for a big origin for her. Being the Chosen One would definitely have me excited. It would be almost completely unseen by everyone, only people who make those fan videos and some of us who watch them. It would work as a huge shocking reveal.

 

Remember that she said specifically in the film that "you're afraid you will never be as strong as Darth Vader." And also that there were ideas to have Anakin's force ghost in the film, but they abandoned that idea, perhaps because Rey saw Anakin as a ghost in her vision and it may have been an obvious nod to what they were doing with her character. Who know, but I would enjoy that premise. It would certainly explain her abilities with the force, and her multitude of skills beyond a characters natural skill-set. Make it so disney.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

She is a child of the Force! The Light side incarnate!

[leeallen01 2,136]

Does anyone remember the exact moment in the film when Williams referenced the Imperial March, besides the obvious Vader Mask moment? Was the camera on Ren or Rey? 

 

I'm actually liking this theory. Like all others though we see what we want and if we think of the theory, we will inevitably see things and invent connections in our heads that aren't really there, but this one is the most original compared to the 'Is she Luke's daughter?' 'Is she Han and Leia's daughter?' 'Is she a no one?' Which all quite frankly would be boring and expected.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

15 hours ago, Woj said:

There's no precedent for reincarnation as shown in the movie franchise, nor any indication that such a cosmic soul reassignment would take factors like sand and planets and family abandonment into account. Next! 

 

There was also no precedent for the lightsaber being a magical mystical object that calls to you and gives you visions.

[leeallen01 2,136]

Or that you could stop an energy blast with the force. Or read minds, or knock someone out with the force.

So, was that Vader/Anakin then putting his hand on R2 in the vision and not Luke? So she was seeing Vader's past, not Luke's.