Unreleased Return of the King music in "Battle For Middle Earth II" video game

[Quintus 5,399]

I think you should add a number 7 to your list of guidelines:

No.7 Thanks to TheGreatEye for providing the first edited track and creating the inspiration for this epic work in progress

Nah seriously, good idea putting all this stuff in its own thread

[bob23 0]

Hmm... I keep getting around 4:02:55/56.

Let's compare start and end music, then. My big wav file opens with scary music from Fellowship (we hear the Ringwraith Theme, then the Uruk-Hai ... I forget which cue this is), then comes "Flight To The Ford" with the extended unused ending. At the other end of the file there's a huge chunk of music not by Howard Shore, followed by two short bits that ARE by Shore -- a statement of the Uruk-Hai theme, then a brief quote of the Dark Tower Falls theme. How does that compare with yours? If they match up, but there is still a time discrepancy, it means either a missing chunk in the middle or screwed-up pitch.

BTW ... music discovered so far includes "Lighting The Beacons" film version and the surrounding cues, including the bit where Aragorn SEES the beacon. I hear what I think is the full film version of the end of "The Black Gate" from TTT. I haven't confirmed anything else, but I also think we have Legolas taking out the elephant, Sam appearing to confront Shelob, and Sam storming Cirith Ungol.

Yeah I have the same beginning and end, I don't think that my pitch is screwed up but I could be wrong, I my ears aren't that good. I'll look at it more later after classes, sampling rate is 44 khz.

On another note, why do people seem to be converting to a wma and then an mp3 type. The file seems to be just a straight up mp3. If you just change the extension to an mp3 it works and has 160kps, so why are people trying to convert it and reencode it to 320 kps, that just doesn't make sense.

John, instead of making it into a wav file, try changing the .big to a .mp3 and see what happens and what length you get and maybe compare it to the wav file you have. If in windows in order to do this you may have to go to tools --> folder options --> view --> uncheck hide extensions for known file types.

On another note although when I open up the mp3 in windows media player it says a length of 4:02:56, but it only actually plays to 4:02:15 and then stops, I wonder why?

Hopefully we will be able to get this sorted out, I appreciate your help and effort

[Quintus 5,399]

Don't wanna open a whole new can of worms here, but did you guys know that its not just BFME 2 that has a substantial amount of unreleased music on it? The original game had more than a fair share too, just not the entire Ride Of The Rohirrim cue. I remember hearing stuff on there from TTT and ROTK which has never been released.

I still have BFME installed on my pc. Maybe I could upload the music file if anyone wants it.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I still have BFME installed on my pc. Maybe I could upload the music file if anyone wants it.

If you could that would be great. My download of BFME 2 has just timed out for a third time after getting about 70% done so I've got no other way to get hold of these files :cry:

[Quintus 5,399]

Okay, I'll try to upload both BFME 1&2 music files tomorrow. I'll PM you when I get it done. Bare with me

[ashinyobject 0]

i'd like the BFME music if you don't mind.

[Dr. Rick 1,157]

Hey all, long time lurker, first time poster. I used to be here a LONG time ago under the name LordChadwick but put that one to bed! I downloaded the game and was able to rename the file as an mp3 just like bob23 said above. Unfortunately my cpu won't let me play the game! I was looking forward to it, oh well. I still have the music! The Great Eye, I sent you a PM about BFME I music.

Also, if anyone wants to hear the EE end credits music from all three films, I have them on www.savefile.com

I believe once you go there you can look me up there, ATXHusker, and you should be able to download all three of them. All together about 70 minutes of music and it's a nice alternative to what we already have. If they don't work PM me and I can show you where to go to listen to them.

-Chad

[John Takis 206]

I hereby publicly acknowledge your pioneering effort.

[MontyBurns 0]

I’m amazed how much material there is within this file actually – much of it from Return of the King to boot. It’s a pity things tend to fade out before the end in many instances (there is a choir less ‘Death of Theoden’ bit deep within the file, but its only half the cue for example).

The best discovery for me so far has to be one of my favourite ROTK cues presented in the .big file in its entirety. It’s the very last cue of the film where Frodo narrates Sam’s return home. Bloody beautiful it is. *wipes away a tear*

It’s an awful lot to wade through, so I commend those taking the time to log and document everything on offer. Well done and good luck.

[Jim Ware 526]

We now have all of The Battle of the Pelennor Fields, minus three short cues. About thirteen minutes of music in all. Most of The Siege of Gondor is there, nearly all of The Tower of Cirith Ungol, most of the missing bits from Shelob's Lair, lots of cues from the whole Stairs of Cirith Ungol sequence, including the complete Minas Morgul, some short snippets from the Smeagol/Deagol flashback and the Sam/Frodo scene which follows.

Coupled with the OST, there must be over two hours of music from ROTK available.

[MontyBurns 0]

A decent chunk of the whole ‘you shall live to see these days renewed’ music from the scene between Theoden and Eowyn is there too, about one minute and eleven seconds of it. It’s a nice clean track, even though I THINK there is a tiny bit missing from the start if memory serves, but it seems to end correctly. The start of that scene seems to be here, elsewhere, but its fades out leaving a bit missing between them from what I can tell.The cue that follows it, that strained rendition of the Fellowship theme for when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli journey to the paths of the dead is here too.

The entire cue featuring the statement of the nature theme for the exodus from Edoras is there, as is the music from the Return to Edoras with the Rohirrim theme leading into the music when they pay homage to the those who died at Helm’s Deep.

There seems to be a nice clean track for the full ‘last of the longottom leaf’ bit between Merry and Pippin. It just needs to bed edited into the OST Hope and Memory track.

I’m rather chuffed all the music from when Aragorn spies the beacons through to Theoden calling for the move for all troops to leave Edoras and send out the call to meet at Dunharrow is here.

… and the Sam/Frodo scene which follows.

Is there any more from that scene? I found two bits, edited, one being the charming end to the Lembas bread “for the journey home” bit, and then a segment from when Gollum leads the hobbits away before the music moves to underscore Aragorn and Co riding through the forest toward what’s left of Isengard.

I'm still trying to figure out why GoldWave is only loading 3hrs and 4 mins of the file for me at the moment.

[Jim Ware 526]

Is there any more from that scene? I found two bits, edited, one being the charming end to the Lembas bread “for the journey home” bit, and then a segment from when Gollum leads the hobbits away before the music moves to underscore Aragorn and Co riding through the forest toward what’s left of Isengard.

For this section (officially titled 'Journey to the Cross-Roads') we have the opening cue with the 'History of the Ring' theme, the brassy bit for the volcanic eruption, another short cue, and the bit with Gollum leading the hobbits away (using 'The Journey There'). The last cue stops just short of the main title. I don't have my documentation to hand, but I don't think there's much missing.

There seems to be a nice clean track for the full ‘last of the longottom leaf’ bit between Merry and Pippin. It just needs to bed edited into the OST Hope and Memory track.

All of 'Hope and Memory' is there (3 cues) including the shorter theatrical ending.

There are still five pieces that I can't identify.

[bob23 0]

I'm still trying to figure out why GoldWave is only loading 3hrs and 4 mins of the file for me at the moment.

Did you try just renaming it as an .mp3. Also did we decide how the long the music is actually supposed to be yet? I keep getting like 15 minutes shorter than John Takis.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Could anyone who has extracted the specific pieces (doesn't matter whether they're edited or not) upload them to yousendit for the benefit of those without the demo? I've only got the file from BFME:1 and haven't identified any unreleased music so far.

It's sooo tantalizing hearing about these new cues, especially the post beacons music and pelennor fields material

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Let's just hope this won't cost us the ROTK Complete recordings.

[Incanus 5,715]

Let's just hope this won't cost us the ROTK Complete recordings.

Do not speak such things! Not even in jest!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I don't jest.

Record companies take bootlegs very seriously, you know.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

They got the TPM UE out because of video game stuff surfacing (or so I'm told)

At most extreme it'll just make the RotK CR come out quicker and we've seen from FotR that they're not going to mess it up. I'm not worried.

[ST-321 4]

I for one will not mess with this and I'll be buying the complete release of TTT and ROTK. Do we have a date for either yet?

[fommes 153]

Yeah I'm not bothering at all with this music. I'll just wait for the complete recordings release.

[Incanus 5,715]

Yeah I'm not bothering at all with this music. I'll just wait for the complete recordings release.

I couldn't be bothered to edit this music since we are going to have both of the complete scores by the end of the year. I am just too lazy plus I do not want to jinx it.

[gkgyver 1,645]

I'm not done downloading the demo yet, but can someone please tell me how to get a higher quality file (higher than 160)?

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I've just successfully downloaded the demo and I'm loading the Music.big file as I type - I gotta lot of work to do now 8O.

gkgyver - if the file itself is encoded at 160, we're not going to get higher quality. I haven't noticed any problems with it though.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

gkgyver - if the file itself is encoded at 160, we're not going to get higher quality.

Yes we will.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

If you mean with the CR then of course....smartass 8O

Listening to this, there's an absolute goldmine of unreleased stuff and film versions of loads of cues. Not quite like having the CR, but lots of the material is here.

I'm currently in the later part of the file, and I've found the scene with gollum and smeagol talking early in RotK.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I'm not gonna bother with making a expanded ROTK out of all of this, i'll just pick and choose a few interesting cues to hold me over till the complete score gets released.

[Mr. Breathmask 555]

I concur with Mr. Cosman.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Naturally.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I've already got an expanded version, made of clean DVD rips. This will just replace some of those with clean copies, and then just keep the more interesting other bits.

I'm not going to work out where every morsel of music is from - I'll wait until the CR for that.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

We've certainly gotten blasé, haven't we. 8O

[Richard Penna 3,694]

We are talking about LotR here

[Marian Schedenig 8,198]

I concur with Mr. Cosman.

Naturally.

I don't.

Marian - who'll save his energy for the CR.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Which you will buy some 3 months after everyone else in the world has already bought it.

[gkgyver 1,645]

Updated List:

note that I've also slightly altered the existing cues.

* contains unreleased music

001. 1:15 (0:00:00-0:01:16) - TTT - The Armies Of Mordor ("The Uruk-Hai" - Ending)

002. 1:54 (0:01:16-0:03:09) - FOTR - Flight To The Ford (With unused album ending)

003. 1:37 (0:03:09-0:04:47) - FOTR - Weathertop (Edited)

004. 1:06 (0:04:47-0:05:53) - FOTR - Gandalf Rides To Minas Tirith (Clean Ending)

005. 1:27 (0:05:53-0:07:21) - FOTR - Prologue (From towards the end)

006. 0:33 (0:07:21-0:07:54) - FOTR - The Taming Of Smeagol (Part 2)

007. 0:46 (0:07:54-0:08:41) - TTT - The Riders Of Rohan (The Rohirrim Meet Aragorn & Co.)

008. 1:07 (0:08:41-0:09:48) - FOTR - Balin's Tomb (End)

009. 1:01 (0:09:48-0:10:49) - FOTR - Balin's Tomb (Beginning)

010. 0:47 (0:10:49-0:11:37) - TTT - The Gate Is Breached/Grappling Hooks (Album Edit from "Isengard Unleashed")

011. 0:23 (0:11:37-0:12:00) - TTT - The King Of The Golden Hall (Trying to take the staff)

012. 0:40 (0:12:00-0:12:40) - TTT - Begone! (Gandalf casts out Saruman from Theoden)

013. 2:12 (0:12:40-0:14:53) - TTT - Forth Eorlingas! (Latter 2/3)

014. 0:44 (0:14:53-0:15:36) - TTT - Faramir Is Tempted (End of "The Forbidden Pool")

015. 0:20 (0:15:36-0:15:57) - FOTR - Khazad-dum (Beginning)

016. 1:16 (0:15:57-0:17:14) - FOTR - Moria (Beginning)

017. 0:50 (0:17:14-0:18:04) - FOTR - Gollum (Pity of Gollum theme)

018. 0:55 (0:18:04-0:19:00) - TTT - Ent-moot (Beginning of "Treebeard" track)

019. 0:50 (0:19:00-0:19:50) - TTT - Treebeard (Middle of "Treebeard" track)

020. 0:53 (0:19:50-0:20:44) - TTT - To The White Wizard (End of "Treebeard" track)

021. 0:42 (0:20:44-0:21:26) - ROTK - In The Halls Of The Dead

022. 0:18 (0:21:25-0:21:45) - TTT - Gandalf Approaches Theoden

023. 1:00 (0:21:45-0:22:45) - TTT - The Dead Marshes (End)

024. 0:47 (0:22:45-0:23:33) - TTT - The Dead Marshes (Beginning)

025. 0:49 (0:23:33-0:24:22) - TTT - Samwise The Brave (End)

026. 1:20 (0:24:22-0:25:43) - TTT - The Taming Of Smeagol (Part 1)

027. 2:35 (0:25:43-0:28:18) - TTT - The Forbidden Pool (Album Track Part 1)

028. 0:59 (0:28:18-0:29:18) - TTT - The Forbidden Pool (Album Track Part 3)

029. 1:10 (0:29:18-0:30:29) - TTT - The Forbidden Pool (Album Track Part 2)

030. 1:15 (0:30:29-0:31:44) - TTT - Mourning Eomer ("The King Of The Golden Hall" End)

031. 1:17 (0:31:44-0:33:01) - TTT - "I Come Back To You Now..." (From "The White Rider")

032. 2:22 (0:33:01-0:35:23) - FOTR - Boromir's Death

033. 1:41 (0:35:23-0:37:05) - FOTR - The Great River (Original Album Version Excerpt)

034. 2:14 (0:37:05-0:39:20) - FOTR - Lothlorien

035. 3:01 (0:39:20-0:42:21) - FOTR - Rivendell

036. 1:39 (0:42:21-0:44:01) - FOTR - Prologue (End)

037. 1:28 (0:44:01-0:45:29) - FOTR - Album Prologue (Beginning)

038. 0:49 (0:45:29-0:46:19) - FOTR - Bilbos Gifts (album)

039. 0:44 (0:46:19-0:47:04) - FOTR - Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe

040. 1:29 (0:47:04-0:48:34) - FOTR - Aragorns Introduction

041. 1:57 (0:48:34-0:50:32) - FOTR - Three Is Company

042. 1:25 (0:50:32-0:51:56) - ROTK - Rohan Arrives On The Pelennor

043. 1:32 (0:51:56-0:53:29) - TTT - The Black Gate (There's another way)*

044. 2:03 (0:53:29-0:55:32) - TTT - Breath Of Life 2 (sounds different)

045. 1:55 (0:55:32-0:57:28) - TTT - Breath Of Life 1 (clean ending)

046. 1:55 (0:57:28-0:59:23) - FOTR - Farewell To Lorien

047. 1:02 (0:59:23-1:00:25) - Forth eorlingas! (album version)

048. 1:44 (1:00:25-1:02:10) - TTT - Foundations Of Stone (Opening)

049. 2:33 (1:02:10-1:04:43) - ROTK - Grey Havens (album version)

050. 2:37 (1:04:43-1:07:20) - FOTR - Amon Hen Seduction Theme (album v.)

051. 1:55 (1:07:20-1:09:15) - FOTR - Nature Theme (Gandalf Imprisoned)

052. 0:29 (1:09:15-1:09:45) - FOTR - Wizard Duel (build- up)

053. 1:27 (1:09:45-1:11:12) - TTT - The Black Gate Is Closed (album version)

054. 0:50 (1:11:12-1:12:03) - TTT - Foundations Of Stone 2 (album version)

055. 0:56 (1:12:03-1:13:00) - TTT - Dead Marshes (album version; unused)

056. 0:38 (1:13:00-1:13:38) - TTT - Riders Of Rohan (Grima thrown out)

057. 1:30 (1:13:38-1:15:09) - TTT - Helms Deep (So It begins; album ver.)

058. 1:29 (1:15:09-1:16:38) - FOTR - I Will Take The Ring!

059. 2:01 (1:16:38-1:18:40) - FOTR - Moria (Gollum)/Dwarrondelf

060. 1:11 (1:18:40-1:19:51) - FOTR - The Fellowship sets out from Rivendell

061. 1:17 (1:19:51-1:21:08) - FOTR - Keep It Secret, Keep it Safe

062. 1:26 (1:21:08-1:22:35) - ROTK - Ride Of The Rohirrim (album version)

063. 2:12 (1:22:35-1:24:47) - TTT - Forth Eorlingas! (album version)

064. 1:48 (1:24:47-1:26:35) - TTT - Warg Attack first half (album version)

065. 1:02 (1:26:35-1:27:37) - TTT - Nature Theme (Ride out and meet them!)

066. 0:44 (1:27:37-1:28:22) - TTT - Riders Of Rohan (Gandalf sets out to find Eomer)

067. 1:44 (1:28:22-1:30:06) - TTT - Theoden Rises (Riders Of Rohan album version)

068. 1:20 (1:30:06-1:31:28) - TTT - The Uruk- Hai part 1 (album version)

069. 0:29 (1:31:28-1:31:57) - TTT - The White Rider finale (album version)

070. 0:16 (1:31:57-1:32:13) - ROTK - A Storm Is Coming Solo fiddle

071. 1:04 (1:32:13-1:33:18) - ROTK - Grey Havens (Gandalf's Goodbye)

072. 0:27 (1:33:18-1:33:45) - ROTK - The End Of All Things (Excerpt)

073. 0:38 (1:33:45-1:34:24) - ROTK - Osgiliath Nazgul Attack *

074. 0:35 (1:34:24-1:35:00) - ROTK - Pelennor Fields (plays right after the ringwraiths chorale in the film)* clean ending

075. 0:37 (1:35:00-1:35:37) - ROTK - Eowyn vs Witch King 1 (chorale)* clean end

076. 1:12 (1:35:37-1:36:50) - ROTK - Pelennor Fields Nazgul Attack (album version) clean ending

077. 0:36 (1:36:50-1:37:26) - ROTK - Shelobs Lair (Sam Finds Lembas)*

078. 0:46 (1:37:26-1:38:13) - ROTK - Sam Vs. Shelob 1 * clean ending

079. 0:50 (1:38:13-1:39:03) - ROTK - Marching From Minas Morgul (First Part film version/Clean Ending)*

080. 0:17 (1:39:03-1:39:21) - ROTK - Pelennor Fields Inside The Gate* clean end

081. 0:46 (1:39:21-1:40:07) - ROTK - Ash & Smoke* clean end

082. 1:09 (1:40:07-1:41:17) - ROTK - Sam Vs Shelob 2 *

083. 0:41 (1:41:17-1:41:58) - ROTK - Sam Climbs Cirith Ungol Tower* (theatrical)

084. 0:42 (1:41:48-1:42:40) - ROTK - Eowyn Vs Witch King 2/ Aragorn on the Fields*

085. 0:54 (1:42:40-1:43:35) - ROTK - Pelennor- Pippin Rescues Gandalf* clean end

086. 0:37 (1:43:35-1:44:12) - ROTK - Ride with me! (album version)

087. 1:57 (1:44:12-1:46:10) - ROTK - Lighting The Beacons* (Film Version)

088. 1:12 (1:46:10-1:47:22) - ROTK - Eowyn brings down oliphaunt* (EE end credits) cleaner/ longer ending

089. 1:18 (1:47:22-1:48:40) - ROTK - Legolas Kills Oliphaunt*

090. 0:31 (1:48:40-1:49:12) - ROTK - Eowyn Vs Witch King 1* (shield smashed)

091. 0:54 (1:49:12-1:50:06) - ROTK - Denethors Pyre 2*

092. 0:31 (1:50:06-1:50:38) - ROTK - Charge Of The Rohirrim* (final part)

093. 0:42 (1:50:38-1:51:21) - ROTK - ??? probably in Osgiliath*

094. 0:35 (1:51:21-1:51:56) - ROTK - Aragorn Arrives with Army of the dead*

095. 1:16 (1:51:56-1:53:12) - ROTK - Charge Of The Rohirrim (Fourth Part)

096. 0:50 (1:53:12-1:54:03) - ROTK - Here come the oliphaunts!*

097. 0:31 (1:54:03-1:54:35) - ROTK - what the heck is that?*

098. 0:27 (1:54:35-1:55:02) - ROTK - Gandalf takes charge (Ash & Smoke)

099. 0:54 (1:55:02-1:55:57) - ROTK - Shelob's Lair* (Frodo in a web)

100. 0:44 (1:55:57-1:56:41) - ROTK - Shelob's Lair* (Frodo gets out the phiol)

101. 0:55 (1:56:41-1:57:37) - ROTK - Battle At The Black Gate* (Up To Eagles) clean ending

102. 1:33 (1:57:37-1:59:12) - ROTK - The End Of All Things* (Beginning) clean end

103. 0:45 ROTK - Shelob's Lair* (Frodo gets out)

104. 0:18 ROTK

105. 0:34 ROTK - Battle At The Black Gate* (Gollum Attacks) clean ending

106. 0:43 ROTK - Orcs arrive in Osgiliath*

107. 0:37 ROTK - Argument at night* (a fat hobbit)

108. 0:45 ROTK - Journey Theme* clean ending

109. 0:31 ROTK - Grey Havens* (the fellowship arrives)

110. 0:31 ROTK - Dunharrow encampment* (extended album track)

111. 0:38 ROTK - Hope & Memory extended album track*

112. 1:03 ROTK - Eowyn's & Theoden at the feast*

113. 1:06 ROTK - Sam talks to "dead" Frodo*

114. 0:42 ROTK - Argument at night 2* (I need you at my side)

115. 0:46 ROTK - The Ride Of The Rohirrim 1 (album track)

116. 0:51 - ROTK - Charge Of The Rohirrim (First Part, Looped Fade-Out)

117. 0:33 ROTK - Twilight & Shadow* (Arwen talks to Elrond)

118. 1:11 ROTK - Dunharrow, Theoden says goodbye to Eowyn*

119. 0:45 - ROTK - Charge Of The Rohirrim (Second Part) clean ending*

120. 0:35 - ROTK - The Return of the King (Fellowship reunited)

121. 0:35 - ROTK - Back at Edoras/Hail the victorious dead*

122. 1:33 - ROTK - Elrond at Dunharrow/Arwen is dying/Corsairs*

123. 0:35 - ROTK - The Last Debate* excerpt

124. 0:32 - ROTK - Running out of lembas*

125. 0:49 - ROTK - Entering Mordor* clean end

126. 0:49 - ROTK - Theoden is dying part 1*

127. 0:22 - ROTK - Frodo in Sam's arms (Mount Doom)*

128. 0:46 - ROTK - Elrond talks to Aragorn 2* (extended album track)

129. 0:15 - ROTK - Go Home!*

130. 0:43 - ROTK - NO IDEA! Denethor?*

131. 0:37 - ROTK - Epilogue*

132. 1:24 - ROTK - Grey Havens theme* (extended album track)

133. 1:11 - ROTK - Faramir's troops get chased out of Osgiliath*

134. 0:21 - ROTK - Sting glows in Cirith Ungol*

135. 0:27 - ROTK - The Days are growing darker 2*

136. 0:17 - ROTK - "Will Rohan's army come?"*

137. 0:23 - ROTK - Denethor's pyre 1*

138. 0:42 - ROTK - Sam finds Lembas in Cirith Ungol 1*

139. 0:24 - ROTK - Last debate 2* (Gondor theme)

140. 0:25 - ROTK - The Days Are Growing darker 1*

141. 0:27 - ROTK - Shelob's Lair* ("Sam")

142. 0:26 - ROTK - Lord Denethor is Boromir's father*

143. 0:19 - ROTK - "Corsairs" arrive at Pelennor*

144. 0:24 - ROTK - Word has reached me of this Aragorn*

145. 0:22 - ROTK - Cirith Ungol*

146. 0:21 - ROTK - Witch King attacks Theoden*

147. 0:30 - ROTK - ???*

148. 0:15 - ROTK - Denethor's pyre 3*

149. 0:23 - ROTK - Ring theme from opening shot*

150. 0:24 - ROTK - Aragorn chokes king of the dead*

151. 0:26 - ROTK - Look at the black ships!*

152. 0:27 - ROTK - Hall of the dead*

153. 0:48 - ROTK - I can feel his blade!/This is now the hour* (extended album track)

154. 1:03 - ROTK - Frodo inside Mt. Doom*

155. 0:51 - ROTK - Shelob's Lair*

156. 0:39 - ROTK - walking across Gorgoroth 1/ Aragorn approaches teh gate*

157. 0:47 - ROTK - Hall of the Dead* (extended track Hope Fails)

158. 1:08 - ROTK - The time of the orc has come!*

159. 0:26 - ROTK - Orcs approach Osgiliath* (extended album track Minas Tirith)

160. 0:54 - ROTK - Merry stabs Witch King*

161. 0:33 - ROTK - Hall of the Dead* (stand, you traitors!)

162. 0:37 - ROTK - "Oaths you have taken; now fulfill them all!"*

163. 0:55 - ROTK - I don't think there will be a return journey, Mr Frodo/Aragorn before the gates*

164. 0:34 - ROTK - Ash & Smoke (beginning of the album track)

165. 0:56 - ROTK - Tower of Cirith Ungol/Not if I stick you first!*

166. 0:57 - ROTK - Fellowship leaves Dunharrow for the Paths of the dead*

167. 0:41 - ROTK - "You have seen Frodo and Sam!"*

168. 0:31 - ROTK - The Black Gate Opens excerpt (album track)

169. 0:52 - ROTK - We need you here! (Eowyn & Aragorn at Dunharrow)*

170. 0:37 - ROTK - The Black Gate Opens (Aragorn's speech)*

171. 1:05 - ROTK - ~

172. 0:28 - ROTK - Aragorn Sees The Beacon*

173. 0:46 - ROTK - Muster The Rohirrim!* clean ending

174. 0:39 - ROTK - Pelennor Fields bit? (NO IDEA)*

175. 1:03 - ROTK - Charge Of The Rohirrim* (Third Part)

176. 0:29 - ROTK - Boromir flashback

177. 0:25 - ROTK - Hope & Memory (album track beginning)

178. 0:56 - ROTK - The Black Gate Opens* (beginning)

179. 0:51 - ROTK - Pippin climbs the beacon tower* (extended album track)

180. 0:45 - ROTK - Hope & Memory (album track alternate end)

181. 0:27 - ROTK - Dunharrow; Rohan prepares to leave *

182. 0:31 - ROTK - Gandalf asks Pippin to light the beacon*

183. 0:55 - ROTK - At the Dimholt*

184. 1:06 - ROTK - Introduction of Denethor/ You still have friends*

185. 0:40 - ROTK - Denethor throws Pippin out of the tombs*

186. 0:37 - ROTK - That mountain is evil*

187. 0:36 - ROTK - Cirith Ungol* (album track extended)

188. 0:55 - ROTK - Minas Morgul introduction*

189. 0:50 - ROTK - Gollum's argument at the pool*

190. 0:29 - ROTK - Sam enters the tower of Cirith ungol*

191. 0:34 - ROTK - Aragorn spots the dead king*

192. 0:33 - ROTK - Frodo and Sam climb the stairs*

193. 0:46 - ROTK - Frodo and Sam climb the stairs 2/ Come to Smeagol!*

194. 0:49 - ROTK - Gollum says Sam has stolen the lembas*

195. 0:28 - ROTK - somewhere at Cirith ungol*

196. 0:43 - ROTK - Gollum throws away lembas*

197. 0:34 - ROTK - Pippin takes the Palantir from Gandalf*

198. 0:34 - ROTK - Pippin picks up the Palantir in Isengart*

199. 0:23 - ROTK - Sam enters the tower of Cirith Ungol 2*

200-235 = Original Game Music Not By Howard Shore

236. 0:23

237. 0:18 - ROTK - The Dark Tower Falls (Brief Statement Of Tower Falling Theme)

[gkgyver 1,645]

Oh, shut up. For an updated list with ALL cues, please visit the corresponding thread on the other board, where I posted it.

[Quintus 5,399]

Holy shit, you HAVE been busy! What did you do - listen to all 3+ hrs of it and note it all down?!!

Good work.

Don't forget to PM me with any new mp3 edits you make

[gkgyver 1,645]

Yes, I did lol

The only problem is: this list just shows the *order* of the cues. At some point, my Windows Media Player times didn't match the times on the list anymore.

You bet I'll make some edits!

[Jim Ware 526]

130. 0:43 - ROTK - NO IDEA! Denethor?*

This is from the prologue. It's Deagol with the ring, just before 'The Seduction of the Ring' appears. It's actually only 0:37, due to the slightly off timings on this list.

147. 0:30 - ROTK - ???*

Also from the prologue. Deagol underwater just before he sees the ring.

093. 0:42 (1:50:38-1:51:21) - ROTK - ??? probably in Osgiliath*

Last part of the first Osgiliath battle scene. Segues to Pippin's climb to the beacon.

097. 0:31 (1:54:03-1:54:35) - ROTK - what the heck is that?*

It's Frodo versus Gollum after Shelob's Lair.

127. 0:22 - ROTK - Frodo in Sam's arms (Mount Doom)*

Are you sure? I can't find it in the film. This is the only piece I can't identify.

128. 0:46 - ROTK - Elrond talks to Aragorn 2* (extended album track)

It's actually two separate sections of the same sequence (bookending the presentation of Anduril).

179. 0:51 - ROTK - Pippin climbs the beacon tower* (extended album track)

It's a different take with subtly different orchestrations and more music.

174. 0:39 - ROTK - Pelennor Fields bit? (NO IDEA)*

Denethor forcibly dismisses Pippin from his service.

185. 0:40 - ROTK - Denethor throws Pippin out of the tombs*

This is actually from The Choices of Master Samwise ("Take him to the tower!").

195. 0:28 - ROTK - somewhere at Cirith ungol*

The Tower of Cirith Ungol - Part 1.

[MontyBurns 0]

Did you try just renaming it as an .mp3.

I did, yes. Naming it .mp3 gives me an error stating ‘no codec exists to encode or decode the file’… If I open the .big direct, or rename it .wma it only opens 3hrs and 4mins worth. Can’t figure it out.

Listening to this, there's an absolute goldmine of unreleased stuff and film versions of loads of cues. Not quite like having the CR, but lots of the material is here.

Richuk, what are you using to open and edit the file? I’d still like to get access to this ‘lost’ 60mins I can’t seem to open.

I'm not gonna bother with making a expanded ROTK out of all of this, i'll just pick and choose a few interesting cues to hold me over till the complete score gets released.

I’m going to edit together the arrival of the Rohirrim at Pelennor material, with the “deaaaaaaaath” bit and the charge as I always loved that grand statement of the nature theme. Having that and the Samwise homecoming cue from the end of the film is more than enough to keep me sane until the extended score release. Everything else I will leave as is.

[Marian Schedenig 8,198]

Which you will buy some 3 months after everyone else in the world has already bought it.

I hope not. I'll try to have the money in time for the ROTK release. Plus, I'm more excited about a complete ROTK than I'm about FOTR.

Marian -

[Richard Penna 3,694]

MontyBurns, I'm using Cool Edit Pro 2.0, then Sony Vegas to merge stuff, and it opens the full length. Incidentally, if you still have trouble then I'll gladly e-mail my extractions to you. Some of it, especially pelennor fields stuff, is pretty tricky to put together cleanly.

I've basically extracted Sam's return to Bag End and run up into Cirith Ungol Tower, Gollum throwing away the lembas, and all the significant Edoras material. Plus the whole 'Charge of the Rohirrim' section including Denethor's death, and all of the Mumakil music up to legolas' stunt (thanks to a certain member for that).

One bit I really wanted (apart from the obvious 'For Frodo') was the fellowship fanfare as sam confronts Shelob, but since it's not there and the scene is in about 6 parts, I can't be bothered to do anything with that.

I've got no idea how everything in the master list was identified, but that's enough for me - plenty more highlights to wait for the CR

[John Takis 206]

Wow! I amend my previous request that the list should not be reprinted in this thread ... I should have made an exception for virtually complete ones!

[lordskylark 1]

Is there anything that's not in either the movie or on the album?

ALso, if this is the demo... does that mean that the regular game may have more music?

~Sky

[Alan 689]

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where Sam's return to Bag End is? We're talking the very very last scene before the credits yeh?

So far I have the whole defence/seige of Osgiliath mixed with the Lighting of the Beacons/Rohirrim leaving Edoras and the Pellenor Fields from the arrival of the Rohirrim to Legolas' Oliphaunt run in. Sounding good but its only making the wait for the CR even harder!!

[Jim Ware 526]

There's a 22 second cue that I can't identify. Everything else is definitely in the film.

[gkgyver 1,645]

Is there a less expensive way than Cool Edit Pro to convert the.big file? I haven't tried editing the thing yet, but I would like to avoid unpleasant surprises very much.

[Jim Ware 526]

Winamp's diskwriter plug-in will work.

[gkgyver 1,645]

Yes, # 127 can definitely be heard at the slopes of Mt. Doom.

Isn't it amazing that although we can't identify some specific cues, we are still able to tell where they should fit in the film; "this is in Cirith Ungol", "that belongs to Osgiliath" and so on.

Speaks volumes about Shore's skill.

[gkgyver 1,645]

Um, and where can I find that in Winamp? I don't even have Winamp, but I suppose it's free.

[gkgyver 1,645]

No need to tell me, I've just successfully transcoded it to MP3 with Nero. And the missing hour of music is also there!