Sandor 918 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Which is yours..?Lately I'm listening a lot to the one Williams recorded for ROTJ. Might be my pick.
Jay 46,245 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12761
Rachael Foley 10,164 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 TESB. (This is based on the version from the Audiophile Edition)
crocodile 9,724 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I always had a soft spot for take 1 of the original SW (or was it take 16?). So different than all the others. Raw and imperfect, but I like it.Karol
Sandor 918 Posted January 22, 2013 Author Posted January 22, 2013 http://www.jwfan.com...showtopic=12761Oops...
Jay 46,245 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I always had a soft spot for take 1 of the original SW (or was it take 16?). So different than all the others. Raw and imperfect, but I like it.KarolI like the way it opens
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 the original is the best, all others pale wanner251 1
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,392 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 The Gerhart/NPO version from Star Wars/CE3K.The definitive version!
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 The Gerhardt recording.The Gerhart/NPO version from Star Wars/CE3K.The definitive version!You were faster and more eloquent. I agree 100%.
Sandor 918 Posted January 22, 2013 Author Posted January 22, 2013 The Gerhart/NPO version from Star Wars/CE3K.The definitive version!I have the CD. I'll listen to it later.Any opinions on the Zubin Metha recording..? I love that album. His recording of 'The Battle'... Awesome.
p0llux 435 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B0000029UDThis one. The LSO here is more balanced and the recording & mixing is on point.
Rachael Foley 10,164 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B0000029UDThis one. The LSO here is more balanced and the recording & mixing is on point.Sounds alot like the Prequel recordings...
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Any opinions on the Zubin Metha recording..? I love that album. His recording of 'The Battle'... Awesome.I've only played it once so far. I found most of it very good... but every once in a while he takes a minor tempo variation and exaggerates it to breakneck speed (like before the reprise of the main theme in the main titles), which somewhat ruins the performance. Sounds like a circus at times.
SF1_freeze 138 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 My favorite is probably tied the TESB one as well as the Phantom Menace/ prequel one.You should definetly check out the Main Title from the Sommernachtskonzert 2010 by the Vienna Philharmonic orchestra which is fantastic!
Nick1Ø66 8,330 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 They're all exactly the same.I'm more interested in which version of the Fox Fanfare w/Extension people prefer.
Rachael Foley 10,164 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 They're all exactly the same.Uh, no they are not, ESB for example as a somewhat different opening.
King Mark 3,975 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 That was 6 years ago!KarolSeems like yesterdayI don't really have any true favorite on this.
The Dark Trilogy 40 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 They're all exactly the same.Fail! All Main Titles from the original Star Wars scores are different in instrumentation. Only the Prequel scores are exactly the same and uses the orchestration from The Empire Strikes Back.
indy4 160 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I love the control and slickness of the prequel recordings. The OT ones seem a little less restrained and a little more powerful, which I think fits the scores and provides a pleasant alternative to the prequels.
Xander Harris 9,677 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I'm more interested in which version of the Fox Fanfare w/Extension people prefer.Williams 1980 from the Empire recording sessions. This is the definitive version.
wanner251 18 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Each of the original trilogy was recorded separately. The prequels all use the same recording up to the departure point after the rolling plot synopsis setup.I still love the original, none of the others are quite as dynamic and edgy. RotJ comes close, but without that first explosion, it doesn't quite make it.
indy4 160 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 The problem with the Star Wars version is the percussion comes in early (or the winds late).
Mattris 439 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 To those who favor the Gerhart/NPO recording (from Star Wars/CE3K album): What is appealing about it?
Nick1Ø66 8,330 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I'm more interested in which version of the Fox Fanfare w/Extension people prefer.Williams 1980 from the Empire recording sessions. This is the definitive version.Indeed. Though the subtleties of the Clones digital-presentation version (as shown in the Southeast Asia market) are hard to deny.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,392 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 To those who favor the Gerhart/NPO recording (from Star Wars/CE3K album): What is appealing about it?The grandness of it. The brilliance of both the performance and recording.
Sandor 918 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 You should definetly check out the Main Title from the Sommernachtskonzert 2010 by the Vienna Philharmonic orchestra which is fantastic!Yes..! It's like hearing the piece for the first time and seeing over 100,000 people attending on that location is stunning in itself.
Quintus 6,499 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 That whole concert (or what I've seen of it) consisted of stellar performances.
Incanus 5,891 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 http://www.amazon.co...e/dp/B0000029UDThis one. The LSO here is more balanced and the recording & mixing is on point.I have to agree. This is definitely one of my favourite perfromances of the theme.
A24 5,157 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 After all these years, I must say, I'm sorta tired of the theme
wanner251 18 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 You should definetly check out the Main Title from the Sommernachtskonzert 2010 by the Vienna Philharmonic orchestra which is fantastic!Yes..! It's like hearing the piece for the first time and seeing over 100,000 people attending on that location is stunning in itself. Interesting, the orchestra seems to have trouble keeping pace... it's slowed down about 20 clicks by the time they get to the bridge.... odd for Vienna....
Foxfan 239 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I have to agree the 1995 "Hollywood Sound" LSO recording is probably the best, though the snare is just slightly too long and loud at the very end.As for the prequels, the recording is identical, but has anyone else noticed the difference in mixing? The harp comes out much better in Episode III in the introduction.
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 To those who favor the Gerhart/NPO recording (from Star Wars/CE3K album): What is appealing about it?The musical flow. Williams is a great film conductor, and probably a good concert conductor, but none of his own recordings are as free-flowing as Gerhardts (very few film music recordings are). The Gerhardt recording has a sweeping broadness that still makes me feel 20 years younger, even though I've probably listened to it hundreds of times.
Rachael Foley 10,164 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I don't know, usually the Gerhardt rerecordings turn me into Jeff Goldblum:"Must go faster, must go faster..."
Nick1Ø66 8,330 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Williams, and soundtracks in general. Re-recordings have never really been my thing, and I have to confess I've never heard the Gerhardt recordings...though obviously I've heard good things about them over the years. Just never got around to it.Are they (the Star Wars ones) that good?
Rachael Foley 10,164 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 They are the only way to get concert versions of some scores (which can be better than the soundtracks on some occasions)
c-moll 1 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Either Jedi or one of the takes on the Star Wars IV Special Edition. I prefer the "classic" sound so I give my vote to the take where the Triangel dominates at the beginning (I'm too lazy now to find out the right take).
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 of all the star wars releases I still play my 2 disc RSO Star Wars cd(or mp3s' of said album) the most.
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Williams, and soundtracks in general. Re-recordings have never really been my thing, and I have to confess I've never heard the Gerhardt recordings...though obviously I've heard good things about them over the years. Just never got around to it.Are they (the Star Wars ones) that good?They're all that good. Except for ESB, in my opinion. Some swear by it, but I find the interpretation, the performance, and the sonics all off. It was made by a different production team than the Classic Film Scores series, and with the different orchestra (LSO instead of NPO), so that may partly explain the differences.But all the rest is outstanding. Gerhardt's Korngold is second to none. His Herrmann is fantastic. And his Star Wars and CE3K are near definitive recordings to me. Partly perhaps because that's how I first heard this music, but I'm convinced it's the quality of the music making that is the main factor, even if the orchestra is not always perfect.It was Gerhardt who convinced Williams to include Here They Come in the suite, by the way. And while his recording is a tad slower than the OST version it's still much faster and more energetic than Williams' own Skywalker Symphony recording, and better played than the LSO recording.
Rachael Foley 10,164 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 The Kojian version is the best version of Here They Come.
hornist 1,261 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Ok, I tried to google Kurajan... The Utah recording, it's great.
Jay 46,245 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 What/who is Kurajan?http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00000153G/
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,392 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Marian is incorrect, the Gerhardt TESB album was done by the NPO, not the LSO.
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Interesting. What made me think it was the LSO for years? Poor performance than the NPO, not the LSO, then.I believe though that it wasn't recorded at Kingsway Hall, like the other Classic Film Scores recordings. Might at least explain the sound.
Sandor 918 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 Interesting. What made me think it was the LSO for years? Poor performance than the NPO, not the LSO, then.I believe though that it wasn't recorded at Kingsway Hall, like the other Classic Film Scores recordings. Might at least explain the sound.Since you were completely wrong about the orchestra, is it reasonable to assume you could be equally off about basically anything you say regarding Gerhardt's ESB recording..? For the record: Gerhardt's ESB is one of my favorite albums of all time. It made me a John Williams fan exactly 20 years ago this month.
Omen II 1,300 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I believe though that it wasn't recorded at Kingsway Hall, like the other Classic Film Scores recordings. Might at least explain the sound.Before you are compelled to hand over your John Williams badge and surrender your piece, you are right about that Marian. It was recorded at Walthamstow Town Hall in east London with a different engineer.
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