#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,283 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 That bit about Spielberg is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,283 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 And the health bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,540 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 He's dead, Stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,635 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 JW orchestrating this himself is final proof for those naysayers who believe that his concert works are somehow more important to him then his film stuff.this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,009 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Sigh.It was farce. It was a totally farcical post.That's right. Always explain the joke. It looks better that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Should I explain the joke in my explanation then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,540 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm not sure if I should laugh or if I should try to understand what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,283 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Always add an appendix which explains the jokeIn Norwegian... Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,009 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 You wouldn't want people taking it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,738 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 @awintory Broughton *reportedly* told a crowd in Santa Barbara.— Doug Adams (@DougAdamsMusic) April 2, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 245 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I believe this story. For one, Williams sketches are already so detailed, all the orchestrator was really doing was copying it out to the different format. It of course made sense to hire orchestators to do this for most movies, to free up Williams time to keep writing during a movie's tight deadlines.But for this score Williams started a year before the film's release date, and he even turned down a Spielberg movie to solely work on this. He has the time, so why not do everything himself to make sure everything is exactly the way he wants it.I think he feels like the Star Wars Saga will be his biggest legacy, and also is very excited about this particular movie.Which makes me excited!That's indeed exciting if it's true. I would love to see those scores. His sketches are great, especially ESB, but a bit hard to decipher. As some have mentioned, his sketches are so complete anyway. But if he his doing the full score himself it makes it very significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 It's being reported that Bruce Broughton has let it slip that #JohnWilliams is going to do all his own orchestrations on #StarWarsVII.— Doug Adams (@DougAdamsMusic) April 2, 2015 Any particular reason that Broughton would have knowledge of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Broughton is known to be a lying windbag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,738 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 They are probably friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,667 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 They are probably friendsAfter Williams replaced Broughton on Home Alone? I guess that was 25 years ago and any hard feelings (if there were any) have already passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,755 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Sigh.It was farce. It was a totally farcical post.Having to explain that makes it less funny.Okay, my bad for not recognizing a joke. That being said, the joke lacked any humorous content--hence my confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,540 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 That being said, the joke lacked any humorous content--hence my confusion.That tends to happen with TGP's jokes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Jokes have to be funny now? Jeez, standards continue to sink.It was an obvious caricature of the tendency of some here to overreact to information and draw ridiculous conclusions. Farce need not make you laugh. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I hope this move will expose Williams for the hack he is. I've studied his sketches, and they're indecipherable, with staves going in all directions. It's like a cross between Jack Torrance's scrawling in THE SHINING and some far out graph notation from the 70s. George Crumb on 'ludes. Without the talents of a small army of orchestrators, Johnnyboy here would be a laughing stock. A Williams sketch: This score will suck. Mark my words. PS. Conrad Pope is an Illuminati stooge bankrolled by the Rothchilds and with ties to the Freemasons--take his words with a grain of salt. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,919 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I hope this move will expose Williams for the hack he is. I've studied his sketches, and they're indecipherable, with staves going in all directions. It's like a cross between Jack Torrance's scrawling in THE SHINING and some far out graph notation from the 70s. George Crumb on 'ludes.Without the talents of a small army of orchestrators, Johnnyboy here would be a laughing stock.A Williams sketch:This score will suck. Mark my words.PS. Conrad Pope is an Illuminati stooge bankrolled by the Rothchilds and with ties to the Freemasons--take his words with a grain of salt.Finally, a post that makes sense...NOT! Luckilly I know Sharky is smarter than this post so this is probably irony. What is the big deal about JW orchestrating his own music? He pretty much always did without getting credit for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I just really question whether or not he has the chops to do it, like Shore or Morricone do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 245 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I just really question whether or not he has the chops to do it, like Shore or Morricone do.Really lots of humor on this board.That being said, JW's first work was as an arranger, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. But then again maybe not. We've been fooled for all those years. He actually never wrote a note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Luckilly I know Sharky is smarter than this post WRONG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,540 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 How?Mate my contributions in this thread are satire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,283 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Including that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 It's just a shame I had to explain it, to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,283 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Is that one satirical?Im staring to get Thor's point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,400 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 British citizenship DENIED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,919 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Luckilly I know Sharky is smarter than this postWRONG!Hmm...this doesn't sound like Sharky. I take it Stefan hacked into your account again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,283 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I've never did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,455 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Aargh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 So is Sharky a spambot now too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jilal 569 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 He doesn't really need a piano to compose anymore - I think he once mentioned in an interview that, as he has perfect pitch, he only uses his piano for reference, for demonstrating his music or for playing music he didn't compose himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TownerFan 4,992 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 This is a quote from a 1991 interview:I think he used this method since the early days and it's the same he uses now. He's also one of the very few composers in the world still doing it this way, i.e. pencil, paper and piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,121 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 This is a quote from a 1991 interview:jwquote.pngSignificant that he mentions that he writes at the piano more "than any composition teacher would tell you is a good idea." This is certainly true, that composition teachers have a bias against writing at the piano, that music should somehow come from "within".But the thing about Williams (which, with his typical modesty, he doesn't give himself any credit for here) is that, coming from a background as a jazz pianist, improvisation - that is, varying an established musical idea - is such a musician's modus operandi, and it is meant to lead to new ideas, not to stifle the creativity.All this is to say that I wish more composers would work this way nowadays. The ideas would be so much more varied and unpredictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,919 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 This is a quote from a 1991 interview:jwquote.pngSignificant that he mentions that he writes at the piano more "than any composition teacher would tell you is a good idea." This is certainly true, that composition teachers have a bias against writing at the piano, that music should somehow come from "within".But the thing about Williams (which, with his typical modesty, he doesn't give himself any credit for here) is that, coming from a background as a jazz pianist, improvisation - that is, varying an established musical idea - is such a musician's modus operandi, and it is meant to lead to new ideas, not to stifle the creativity.All this is to say that I wish more composers would work this way nowadays. The ideas would be so much more varied and unpredictable.I don't believe he has perfect pitch. His 1980 interview he said he has good relative pitch and haven't seen any interview where he said he has perfect pitch plus that just doesn't sound like the modest man we know him to be to claim anything of his is "perfect". He loves the piano...it is not an obstacle to his creative process but a conduit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 You can generally tell when he's written something relying on the piano or not. You can tell that with most composers, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,755 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 You can generally tell when he's written something relying on the piano or not. You can tell that with most composers, really.Like Conversations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Obviously composed on a piccolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,423 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 You can generally tell when he's written something relying on the piano or not. You can tell that with most composers, really.Examples and reasoning? Genuinely curious as I wouldn't know where to begin with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Dammit . . . Sharky beat me to it. I was going to post this as his original sketch for "Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra" that Spencer had to decipher:I've also been thinking about his reasons for doing this. It may not be health-related, per se, but it may have something to do with age and understanding that there remain a limited number opportunites going forward for him to do this. Over forty years and scores of scores, using an orchestrator was probably no big deal. But if he's being realistic (and no doubt he is), this is one of the few times he has left to keep all the music in his own hands from beginning to end. If this is the case, I can easily imagine he wants to savor the full experience for as long as he can.Of course, this may have nothing to do with it. Just speculating on his behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,283 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Lol Not enough rests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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