gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Pray tell why is Doc Ock such a great villain then? Does he represent some stupid character side of Spider-Man/Peter? No. He's cool because he has eight fucking mechanical arms.A movie dealing with the symhionte and maybe ONE additional villain, and a second movie just with Venom would be awesome. I remember a story where Peter was abducted by Venom to a deserted island, that was pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The best thing that the new Spidy film has going for it is that it has one villian. The 3rd Raimi movie was not handled well at all in terms of juggling all those bad guys, and the story arch they decided to follow for Peter was silly. If they concentrated soley on Sandman, it might have been good. There was a lot there that could have, and should have, been fleshed out.Nolan, however, did exceptionally well handling multiple baddies in his Batman films, especially the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 SPidey 2 should have been black spiderman and spidey 3 take the venom approach.Heck, make it Symbiont in 1, venom in 2 and Spidey and Venom vs carnage in 3!I liked the symbiont stories, hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Pray tell why is Doc Ock such a great villain then? Does he represent some stupid character side of Spider-Man/Peter? No. He's cool because he has eight fucking mechanical arms.There's also :Death of Captain Stacy, Bennett Brant, saved Peter's life in the Clone Saga from a lethal virus just so he could have the pleasure of killing Spidey in his prime, and put Black Cat in hospital on a life support machine; master planner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Nolan, however, did exceptionally well handling multiple baddies in his Batman films, especially the first one.That's because both Scarecrow and Falcone were the muscle required to put Ra's al Ghul's plan into motion.* While the two minor villains may not have known who they were working for or what larger picture was being painted, there was an overall plot to having that number of villains in the same film.Spider-Man 3? No such overarching plot. Sandman shows up at the same time that Venom comes to earth and that Harry Osborn takes up his late father's mantle. Any other day, Spider-Man may face no villains and just have a lot of homework that night, but today, WHAMO, three bad guys. But without any unified reason why all show up at the same time.* Of course, that's not enough to make a case for having multiple bad guys united under a common plot. Batman and Robin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Director Marc Webb talks about the movie to Collider:http://collider.com/...terview/153084/Says that he recently heard the first cue Horner composed for the film, and called it spectacular. He adds that Horner was chosen because he could do "both grandeur and intimacy." Hmmm...I'm still a bit shocked that Horner agreed to do this. I thought he was going to take a break from scoring big Hollywood films... let alone scoring a reboot of a popular franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 For some reason, I have good feelings about this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I wonder if he will use the danger motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 For some reason, I have good feelings about this score.It will be better then what Elfman did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 For some reason, I have good feelings about this score.It will be better then what Elfman did.I like what Elfman did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 It might be actually not too far removed from what Elfman did. I expect a kind Karate Kid kind of score. Horner's karate kid. Could go either way, to be honest. But it's nice to see Horner attached to this kind of project. Even though, he said before that he's not interested in doing Marvel movies, "because they're boring and formulaic and have no heart" and blah-blah-blah...Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Webb must've gone to Horner and begged him to score Amazing Spider-Man, or Horner changed his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Elfman's two scores had good bits here and there but over all, as Steef said they were meh. Young's score for Spider-Man 3 clearly was the best of the bunch. It will be interesting to hear what Horner turns out for this reboot movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Elfman's two scores had good bits here and there but over all, as Steef said they were meh. Spider-Man 2 was good, even with the temp-tracking and Elfman walking out during post. Spider-Man 3 definitely had better themes thanks to Young, but then Sony had to go and cut in Elfman's score from the previous two films. It's sad Young didn't get a score release of SM-3 out, I would've bought that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Webb must've gone to Horner and begged him to score Amazing Spider-Man, or Horner changed his mind.Hefty paycheck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Webb must've gone to Horner and begged him to score Amazing Spider-Man, or Horner changed his mind.Hefty paycheck?That too. But with that money Horner pulled in with Titanic and Avatar, could've been something else. Maybe he liked what he saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 he said before that he's not interested in doing Marvel movies, "because they're boring and formulaic and have no heart" and blah-blah-blah...Spider-man is not a Marvel film. It's from Sony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 You...are aware that Spider-Man is a creation of Marvel Comics, aren't you, regardless of who actually owns the rights to the film franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Yes, but it is not a Marvel film. So technically Horner has stuck to his guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I really hope they get Celine Dion to sing Cobwebs in My Hair: Love Theme from Spider-Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Moron! Horner is so much more then that!It's as if Braveheart was never written! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Braveheart was written. Years before 1995, but it was written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 I hope you're right. I really do.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Hopefully Horner comes up with something mostly original and great. I take it that Webb hasn't heard that many Horner scores to be that impressed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 What a silly comment.Horner, even if somewhat derivative is still one hell of a film composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 What a silly comment.Horner, even if somewhat derivative is still one hell of a film composer.What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 What a silly comment.Horner, even if somewhat derivative is still one hell of a film composer.Meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Like Williams never repeats himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Sometimes I feel that people bash Horner just for the sake of bashing him. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but its quite common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzoe 18 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Sometimes I feel that people bash Horner just for the sake of bashing him. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but its quite common.I'm not bashing Horner. Horner is simply hit or miss for me. A lot of misses. When it comes to his scores i really have to think to myself if it's worthy of a purchase. I only own a few scores from him that I can count on one hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I love listening to Horner's music, but I have very little respect for him as a person and as a composer. Sure, it's understandable for a composer to plagiarize a bit when under pressure to produce quick results. But by this point Horner knows that he's going to have trouble coming up with an original danger theme in the future - why doesn't he take a year off from film scoring and come up with a generic but original Danger Motif? And while he's at it, a generic but original motif for all the other melodies he regularly steals? There's no reason he needs to be copying the same melodies from the same composers over and over again. It's dishonest and it's artistically lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Hahahahahahaha!Elitist twaddle. You are hilarious man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Horner can't be that bad. I mean, the guy composed Rocketeer and The Launch from Apollo 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Hahahahahahaha!Elitist twaddle. You are hilarious man.It's not even about artistic integrity as much as it is about fairness. If I were Sergei Rachmaninoff and I poured months and months of effort into writing a symphony, I would not be okay with somebody else getting credit for it.Horner can't be that bad. I mean, the guy composed Rocketeer and The Launch from Apollo 13.Yeah, his scores, even the plagiarized bits, are original enough for me to really enjoy listening to most of them. But from a moral standpoint the guy's a jerk. From an artistic one, he's lazy.Of course, not being very knowledgable of the world of concert music, even those seemingly original themes and cues could be plagiarized from something I've never heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Horner can't be that bad. I mean, the guy composed Rocketeer and The Launch from Apollo 13.And Journey of Natty Gann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I miss maguire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I miss decent movies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Looks like it will be a really long movie too. For some reason I was expecting it to be shorter than any of the Raimi's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Well, I feel like it looks really long because the trailer showed a lot of scenes and a lot of plot points, which I feel like will take a long time to coverI thought it would be shorter than the older movies because... I dunno why. Just a random thought I had. Like they'd be going for more simply and comic-booky and less epic-y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I don't like the shots of Spidey and the Lizard fighting. Might as well have been an animated film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I might be in minority here, but I'm really looking forward to James Horner's score for this. Could be good!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'm cautiously optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score_Fan 36 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think the movie looks good...but I'm still not 100% sure it'll be better than any of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I'll welcome it with open arms!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 There will be a "Spot A Danger Motif" contest to be held at the premiere of The Amazing Spider-man. Contest rules will be subject to changes. Please wait for further instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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