Jay 37,364 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 This isn't being officially announced until tonight at midnight PST (3am ET), but the cover art has already leakedSo the circle is complete! JB Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I'll get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 So the circle is complete!But will the score be complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 So the circle is complete!But will the score be complete! That was my first question as well given that it is a Varese release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I'll get this for sure too! I hope it's fully complete. The cover for this looks better than First Contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I hope it omits the choir tracks. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I hope it omits the choir tracks. :-PSmart ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 So the circle is complete!But will the score be complete! That was my first question as well given that it is a Varese release.Die Hard 2 (Deluxe) was complete. I'm sure this release will be in line with all the other ST expansions.Either way, I'm buying it. Haven't got Nemesis OST and all the other ST albums are on my shelf.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 If Lukas Kendall was involved then we're guaranteed it. If Townson is the only one involved like he was with the Trek 09' D.E. then there would no guarantee of it... I do hope Kendall was involved.I think Die Hard 2 was complete because Mike Matessino was the music editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 You know this?How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 You know this?How?For what are you asking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I was responded to Croc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I have faith.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Good...GOOOOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I do wonder if this will have both the album and alternate version of "A New Ending", I think (my speculation) it will have the alternate one. The film version is on the original album and if that one is left off then it would be a good reason to keep it for those of us who have the OST (like I do). Well we'll know tonight!BTW it's a bit irritating that Varese doesn't post sound samples like Intrada and LLL too when ordering time comes around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Well this is awesome news. Finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yes, after having to listen to my perfectly sounding bootleg for nearly 10 years, I'm glad I can soon listen to the exact same music is pretty much the exact same sound.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 But my lord, is that... legal? Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Balls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 This score has been shockingly long-lasting in my book. I hated it when it came out, but with each year I find more and more to like about it. Deceptively "auto-pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 You were just wrong back in the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 If memory serves, the complete versions of Star Trek 2, 3, 4, and 6 were unlimited. Star Trek 5 was limited to 5,000 at La-La Land, but is now unlimited at Intrada. Star Trek 1 at La-La Land and Star Treks 7-9 on GNP Crescendo are I believe limited to 10,000 copies.I wonder how many copies Varese will limit Nemesis to? Or it will be an unlimited Deluxe Edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I'm hoping for a decent edition limit. I want this score to be available to all who want it (which includes me, obviously). I'm also hoping Varese did this to the same standards as the other releases. This is one of Jerry Goldsmith's last scores, and deserves a great release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 You were just wrong back in the day!I'm beginning to realize I've been wrong about quite a few things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I will always feel Nemesis to be an under-rated score. Yes the OST sucked but the expanded version helped with the listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 You were just wrong back in the day! I'm beginning to realize I've been wrong about quite a few things! Told ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is one of Jerry Goldsmith's last scores, and deserves a great release.Actually, it is his last completed score that is in the film.And yes, there's more to it than meets the eye. I agree with our dear Cauliflower.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This score has been shockingly long-lasting in my book. I hated it when it came out, but with each year I find more and more to like about it. Deceptively "auto-pilot." Film music (and music in general) has been going through this terrible phase. It somehow just keeps getting worse and worse, like the ending of A.I. or the morning of 9/11. Okay, that second example is way too extreme, but you know what I mean. Now, here we are in this dark age and suddenly an okay-for-Goldsmith score like Nemesis sounds like a masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yeah, we all say that. But then again, I think older film music fans were saying the same thing at the height of Goldsmith and Williams back in the 80's.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This score has been shockingly long-lasting in my book. I hated it when it came out, but with each year I find more and more to like about it. Deceptively "auto-pilot." Film music (and music in general) has been going through this terrible phase. It's somehow just keeps getting worse and worse, like the ending of A.I. or the morning of 9/11. Okay, that second example is way too extreme, but you know what I mean. Now, here we are in this dark age and suddenly an okay-for-Goldsmith score like Nemesis sounds like a masterpiece.Well I think it's because something like Nemesis was very jarring back when it first came out. It was a brand new island of musical modernity in a sea of romanticism. It's the same reason people's ears bled when Rite of Spring premiered. And then when everyone started trying to delve into Straviniskian territory, everyone's like...wait...that [Rite of Spring] was actually really good.Now that the entire ocean is modern music, works like "Nemesis", or hell even "U.S. Marshals" really stand out. Nemesis is a damn fine "modern film score." It's intelligent, it embodies everything that "saying more with less" should be. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm not sure Nemesis could currently described as "modern". To my ears, it's sounds like a good typical Goldsmith score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It's by far the most streamlined and modern Star Trek score to my ears. The synths are smoother and darker (predicting the now all cool and hip smooth-dark synths we hear everywhere) than ever. More chord-based stuff than melody driven ideas. The motif/themes are shorter. The rhythmic material is more "poppy" than traditional Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I actually prefer Nemesis to FC and ST:IX the return to some of the themes from TMP helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 ST:VIIIIAh yes, the infamous Star Trek VIIII. Before the days the Romans had fully developed their numeral system.Thasius' performance as the Captain of the Trireme R.I.N Agriculture was sublime. Cicero's score was to die for though, in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Ugh, I hate roman numerals sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 So will we actually be able to order when they make the announcement at midnight PST or will we have to wait a little longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Vincent 234 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Usually you can order right away, but the CDs will be shipped a week later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Usually you can order right away, but the CDs will be shipped a week later.Maybe, maybe not....will have to wait and see in 2 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 To Townsen, "you're too slow, old man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It's 2 CD. Now I can die in peace.DISC ONE1. Remus* (2:01) 2. The Box (2:21) 3. My Right Arm (1:04) 4. Star Field** / Positronic Signal (1:57) 5. The Argo (1:17) 6. Odds And Ends (4:39) 7. Your Brother / Course Plotted** (2:07) 8. Repairs** (6:27) 9. The Knife (3:10) 10. Perfect Timing / Allegiance (2:21) 11. Secrets (1:28) 12. The Mine (1:30)13. Ideals (2:16) 14. Options (0:55) 15. Bed Time / Transport (1:38) 16. Blood Test (1:23) 17. The Mirror (5:23) 18. The Scorpion** (2:24) 19. His Plans / Data & B-4 (2:39) 20. Battle Stations** (2:40) 21. Attack Pattern (2:22) 22. The Invitation / True Nature / Let’s Go To Work (4:38) 23. Lateral Run (3:55) 24. The Viceroy (:20)DISC TWO1. Engage (2:14) 2. Full Reverse (1:41) 3. Not Functional (2:54) 4. Final Flight (3:49) 5. Firing Sequence (:54) 6. A New Friend (2:38) 7. That Song** / An Honor (1:24) 8. A New Ending*†** (8:30)Source Music: 9. Riker’s Strut #1 (Mike Lang) (1:07) 10. Riker’s Strut #2 (Mike Lang) (1:09) 11. Blue Skies† (Vocal By Brent Spiner) (3:17) 12. Blue Skies† (Instrumental) (2:37)Additional Music: 13. Secrets (Alternate Mix) (1:29) 14. The Mine (Alternate) (1:33) 15. Options (Alternate) (:57) 16. Options (Alternate Mix) (:58)17. Data & B-4 (Alternate) (1:39) 18. Battle Stations** (Alternate Mix) (2:44) 19. Attack Pattern (Alternate Mix) (2:24) 20. True Nature (Alternate Mix) (1:30) 21. A New Ending*†** (Alternate) (6:11) 22. Director And Composer (2:35) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Quite a few alternates that were never with the boot! Looking forward to checking this sucker out. I'm happy it's fully complete and 2-CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Ordered, of course. Looks like it ships Jan 6th. Lots of alternates, and the samples on the page sounded great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The positive response to this release means that Dan Hobgood's opinions on this score have been vindicated.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Townson used the word "complete" in the description, so there you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Impressive! Ordered this one plus Abyss and Vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The positive response to this release means that Dan Hobgood's opinions on this score have been vindicated....Joey hasn't weighed in on it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I already know his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I love that we finally get the film version of "The Mine". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is definitely going onto my purchases list, especially seeing as it appears to make the bootleg thoroughly redundant. Out of curiosity, given the timings, I'm assuming that "A New Ending" is the film edited version, with "Final Fight" mixed in after the initial Motion Picture March.Looks like Varese have learned. I can only hope they do the same with STID too in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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