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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Edmilson in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Discovery is a suite as is Memories of Home. The movie opens with music from Giacchino's scores, so Discovery is placed there instead. And I think that's it. Together Strong at first sounded like a suite of Noa's theme, but after watching the movie, I think it belongs to an important scene late in the film, so it's not a suite. Hope this helps!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Stark in The Best Planet of the Apes Composer   
    I love Giacchino's scores! I like Doyle's effort, and I think Goldsmith's score works brilliantly in the film, but not something I would listen outside of it. I'm not as familiar with Elfman's work or either of the numerous sequels for the original film, so yeah, Giacchino's scores are the ones I like the most and the ones I've heard the most.
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Trope in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Here's a quick breakdown of the main themes of the movie. They're not reprised as much as I would like, but fortunately, the three themes for the heroes are presented in a sort of suite-like arrangement in at least one track. They are the following:
     
    Discovery
     
    It's a fairly simple theme, built around a repeating 4-note motif, that represents the human side of the story, particularly Mae and her relationship with Noa. It's presented in a suite arrangement in the track above, and only shines again like that in the final track, We Will Rebuild, but it appears a couple of times more:
     
    -Discovery - 0:08 (fragments), 1:39, 2:19, 4:14, 5:24 (fragments)
    -I Am Raka - 4:07
    -She Is Different - 0:10 (barely heard, almost reduced to just the base chords)
    -They Are Like You - 0:09 (similar to track above)
    -New Weapon - 0:23
    -Very Clever Apes - 1:04
    -We Will Rebuild - 0:00 (fragments), 2:26
     
    Eagle Clan
     
    This is my favorite idea in the whole score, and it represents Noa's home, his tribe and his people. During the second half of the movie is almost completely absent until the final action cue, Ape Aquatics, where it really shines! The track linked above, Memories of Home, is a suite presentation of the theme according to the composer himself.
     
    -The Climb - 2:38
    -Eagle Clan - 0:23, 1:21 (B Section)
    -Noa's Purpose - 1:18
    -Memories of Home - 0:28, 1:26, 2:04 (B Section), 2:33 (plays A and B section together), 3:07
    -Ape Aquatics - 1:26
     
    Noa
     
    This noble theme is heard even less than the previous two ideas, but makes a huge impact on the film in a scene that I won't spoil, covered by the track linked above, that acts as a sort of suite presentation of the idea.
     
    -Eagle Clan - 3:09
    -Noa's Purpose - 2:58 (plays A and B section together)
    -Together Strong - 0:16, 0:52, 1:21 (B Section), 2:06 (plays A and B section together), 2:49
    -It Was Ours - 0:41, 1:31
     
    Proximus Caesar
     
    And then we have the material for the antagonist ape, which honestly was a bit underutilized, making his material quite hard to grasp because of the little time it has to shine. It's a descending three-note motif, sometimes surrounded by tribal percussion. There might be a secondary motif for him and his tribe, but I haven't placed it yet.
     
    -A Kingdom for Apes - 2:02
    -What A Wonderful Day - 1:55, 2:58
    -Apes Will Learn, I Will Learn - 0:18, 1:59
    -Cannot Trust a Human - 0:38, 2:09
     
    So these are the main themes present in the score, and I hope that this little guide helps you better appreciate it. Any theme or iteration I've missed?
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Mr. Who in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Here's a quick breakdown of the main themes of the movie. They're not reprised as much as I would like, but fortunately, the three themes for the heroes are presented in a sort of suite-like arrangement in at least one track. They are the following:
     
    Discovery
     
    It's a fairly simple theme, built around a repeating 4-note motif, that represents the human side of the story, particularly Mae and her relationship with Noa. It's presented in a suite arrangement in the track above, and only shines again like that in the final track, We Will Rebuild, but it appears a couple of times more:
     
    -Discovery - 0:08 (fragments), 1:39, 2:19, 4:14, 5:24 (fragments)
    -I Am Raka - 4:07
    -She Is Different - 0:10 (barely heard, almost reduced to just the base chords)
    -They Are Like You - 0:09 (similar to track above)
    -New Weapon - 0:23
    -Very Clever Apes - 1:04
    -We Will Rebuild - 0:00 (fragments), 2:26
     
    Eagle Clan
     
    This is my favorite idea in the whole score, and it represents Noa's home, his tribe and his people. During the second half of the movie is almost completely absent until the final action cue, Ape Aquatics, where it really shines! The track linked above, Memories of Home, is a suite presentation of the theme according to the composer himself.
     
    -The Climb - 2:38
    -Eagle Clan - 0:23, 1:21 (B Section)
    -Noa's Purpose - 1:18
    -Memories of Home - 0:28, 1:26, 2:04 (B Section), 2:33 (plays A and B section together), 3:07
    -Ape Aquatics - 1:26
     
    Noa
     
    This noble theme is heard even less than the previous two ideas, but makes a huge impact on the film in a scene that I won't spoil, covered by the track linked above, that acts as a sort of suite presentation of the idea.
     
    -Eagle Clan - 3:09
    -Noa's Purpose - 2:58 (plays A and B section together)
    -Together Strong - 0:16, 0:52, 1:21 (B Section), 2:06 (plays A and B section together), 2:49
    -It Was Ours - 0:41, 1:31
     
    Proximus Caesar
     
    And then we have the material for the antagonist ape, which honestly was a bit underutilized, making his material quite hard to grasp because of the little time it has to shine. It's a descending three-note motif, sometimes surrounded by tribal percussion. There might be a secondary motif for him and his tribe, but I haven't placed it yet.
     
    -A Kingdom for Apes - 2:02
    -What A Wonderful Day - 1:55, 2:58
    -Apes Will Learn, I Will Learn - 0:18, 1:59
    -Cannot Trust a Human - 0:38, 2:09
     
    So these are the main themes present in the score, and I hope that this little guide helps you better appreciate it. Any theme or iteration I've missed?
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    I also just noticed that Noa's theme at 3:09 of Eagle Clan also contains the B Section as counterpoint, just like it does in the Together Strong track! Love revisiting the score and finding out more of these kind of details.
     
    And indeed, Noa's theme is awesome. Such a shame it appears so little, but hopefully will be more important in the sequels. And it does remind me a bit of JNH's fantasy writing!
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    Knight of Ren reacted to Edmilson in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    That's BY FAR my favorite track on the album. Loved when the B section of the theme plays at 1:21, especially with those JNH-like strings from 1:40 to 2:00.
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    Knight of Ren reacted to Jay in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    I look forward to listening to the album again following your post!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Yeah, I love doing these kind of things, and it's great to have a place to share them so other people can enjoy them, and if it brings them joy, I'm happy to contribute to that a bit. After all, we're here for the same thing, our passion for film scores!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from JNHFan2000 in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Yeah, I love doing these kind of things, and it's great to have a place to share them so other people can enjoy them, and if it brings them joy, I'm happy to contribute to that a bit. After all, we're here for the same thing, our passion for film scores!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from LSH in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Here's a quick breakdown of the main themes of the movie. They're not reprised as much as I would like, but fortunately, the three themes for the heroes are presented in a sort of suite-like arrangement in at least one track. They are the following:
     
    Discovery
     
    It's a fairly simple theme, built around a repeating 4-note motif, that represents the human side of the story, particularly Mae and her relationship with Noa. It's presented in a suite arrangement in the track above, and only shines again like that in the final track, We Will Rebuild, but it appears a couple of times more:
     
    -Discovery - 0:08 (fragments), 1:39, 2:19, 4:14, 5:24 (fragments)
    -I Am Raka - 4:07
    -She Is Different - 0:10 (barely heard, almost reduced to just the base chords)
    -They Are Like You - 0:09 (similar to track above)
    -New Weapon - 0:23
    -Very Clever Apes - 1:04
    -We Will Rebuild - 0:00 (fragments), 2:26
     
    Eagle Clan
     
    This is my favorite idea in the whole score, and it represents Noa's home, his tribe and his people. During the second half of the movie is almost completely absent until the final action cue, Ape Aquatics, where it really shines! The track linked above, Memories of Home, is a suite presentation of the theme according to the composer himself.
     
    -The Climb - 2:38
    -Eagle Clan - 0:23, 1:21 (B Section)
    -Noa's Purpose - 1:18
    -Memories of Home - 0:28, 1:26, 2:04 (B Section), 2:33 (plays A and B section together), 3:07
    -Ape Aquatics - 1:26
     
    Noa
     
    This noble theme is heard even less than the previous two ideas, but makes a huge impact on the film in a scene that I won't spoil, covered by the track linked above, that acts as a sort of suite presentation of the idea.
     
    -Eagle Clan - 3:09
    -Noa's Purpose - 2:58 (plays A and B section together)
    -Together Strong - 0:16, 0:52, 1:21 (B Section), 2:06 (plays A and B section together), 2:49
    -It Was Ours - 0:41, 1:31
     
    Proximus Caesar
     
    And then we have the material for the antagonist ape, which honestly was a bit underutilized, making his material quite hard to grasp because of the little time it has to shine. It's a descending three-note motif, sometimes surrounded by tribal percussion. There might be a secondary motif for him and his tribe, but I haven't placed it yet.
     
    -A Kingdom for Apes - 2:02
    -What A Wonderful Day - 1:55, 2:58
    -Apes Will Learn, I Will Learn - 0:18, 1:59
    -Cannot Trust a Human - 0:38, 2:09
     
    So these are the main themes present in the score, and I hope that this little guide helps you better appreciate it. Any theme or iteration I've missed?
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Jay in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Yeah, I love doing these kind of things, and it's great to have a place to share them so other people can enjoy them, and if it brings them joy, I'm happy to contribute to that a bit. After all, we're here for the same thing, our passion for film scores!
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    Knight of Ren reacted to JNHFan2000 in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Same here Jay. It's brings a lot of joy and I'm feeling greatful with a thread and posts like these.
     
    They are only small things, but they can really make a bad day or time a bit brighter. May sound cheesy, but I really mean that.
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    Knight of Ren reacted to Jay in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Amazing. I love JWFan!!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Edmilson in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Here's a quick breakdown of the main themes of the movie. They're not reprised as much as I would like, but fortunately, the three themes for the heroes are presented in a sort of suite-like arrangement in at least one track. They are the following:
     
    Discovery
     
    It's a fairly simple theme, built around a repeating 4-note motif, that represents the human side of the story, particularly Mae and her relationship with Noa. It's presented in a suite arrangement in the track above, and only shines again like that in the final track, We Will Rebuild, but it appears a couple of times more:
     
    -Discovery - 0:08 (fragments), 1:39, 2:19, 4:14, 5:24 (fragments)
    -I Am Raka - 4:07
    -She Is Different - 0:10 (barely heard, almost reduced to just the base chords)
    -They Are Like You - 0:09 (similar to track above)
    -New Weapon - 0:23
    -Very Clever Apes - 1:04
    -We Will Rebuild - 0:00 (fragments), 2:26
     
    Eagle Clan
     
    This is my favorite idea in the whole score, and it represents Noa's home, his tribe and his people. During the second half of the movie is almost completely absent until the final action cue, Ape Aquatics, where it really shines! The track linked above, Memories of Home, is a suite presentation of the theme according to the composer himself.
     
    -The Climb - 2:38
    -Eagle Clan - 0:23, 1:21 (B Section)
    -Noa's Purpose - 1:18
    -Memories of Home - 0:28, 1:26, 2:04 (B Section), 2:33 (plays A and B section together), 3:07
    -Ape Aquatics - 1:26
     
    Noa
     
    This noble theme is heard even less than the previous two ideas, but makes a huge impact on the film in a scene that I won't spoil, covered by the track linked above, that acts as a sort of suite presentation of the idea.
     
    -Eagle Clan - 3:09
    -Noa's Purpose - 2:58 (plays A and B section together)
    -Together Strong - 0:16, 0:52, 1:21 (B Section), 2:06 (plays A and B section together), 2:49
    -It Was Ours - 0:41, 1:31
     
    Proximus Caesar
     
    And then we have the material for the antagonist ape, which honestly was a bit underutilized, making his material quite hard to grasp because of the little time it has to shine. It's a descending three-note motif, sometimes surrounded by tribal percussion. There might be a secondary motif for him and his tribe, but I haven't placed it yet.
     
    -A Kingdom for Apes - 2:02
    -What A Wonderful Day - 1:55, 2:58
    -Apes Will Learn, I Will Learn - 0:18, 1:59
    -Cannot Trust a Human - 0:38, 2:09
     
    So these are the main themes present in the score, and I hope that this little guide helps you better appreciate it. Any theme or iteration I've missed?
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from crocodile in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    Here's a quick breakdown of the main themes of the movie. They're not reprised as much as I would like, but fortunately, the three themes for the heroes are presented in a sort of suite-like arrangement in at least one track. They are the following:
     
    Discovery
     
    It's a fairly simple theme, built around a repeating 4-note motif, that represents the human side of the story, particularly Mae and her relationship with Noa. It's presented in a suite arrangement in the track above, and only shines again like that in the final track, We Will Rebuild, but it appears a couple of times more:
     
    -Discovery - 0:08 (fragments), 1:39, 2:19, 4:14, 5:24 (fragments)
    -I Am Raka - 4:07
    -She Is Different - 0:10 (barely heard, almost reduced to just the base chords)
    -They Are Like You - 0:09 (similar to track above)
    -New Weapon - 0:23
    -Very Clever Apes - 1:04
    -We Will Rebuild - 0:00 (fragments), 2:26
     
    Eagle Clan
     
    This is my favorite idea in the whole score, and it represents Noa's home, his tribe and his people. During the second half of the movie is almost completely absent until the final action cue, Ape Aquatics, where it really shines! The track linked above, Memories of Home, is a suite presentation of the theme according to the composer himself.
     
    -The Climb - 2:38
    -Eagle Clan - 0:23, 1:21 (B Section)
    -Noa's Purpose - 1:18
    -Memories of Home - 0:28, 1:26, 2:04 (B Section), 2:33 (plays A and B section together), 3:07
    -Ape Aquatics - 1:26
     
    Noa
     
    This noble theme is heard even less than the previous two ideas, but makes a huge impact on the film in a scene that I won't spoil, covered by the track linked above, that acts as a sort of suite presentation of the idea.
     
    -Eagle Clan - 3:09
    -Noa's Purpose - 2:58 (plays A and B section together)
    -Together Strong - 0:16, 0:52, 1:21 (B Section), 2:06 (plays A and B section together), 2:49
    -It Was Ours - 0:41, 1:31
     
    Proximus Caesar
     
    And then we have the material for the antagonist ape, which honestly was a bit underutilized, making his material quite hard to grasp because of the little time it has to shine. It's a descending three-note motif, sometimes surrounded by tribal percussion. There might be a secondary motif for him and his tribe, but I haven't placed it yet.
     
    -A Kingdom for Apes - 2:02
    -What A Wonderful Day - 1:55, 2:58
    -Apes Will Learn, I Will Learn - 0:18, 1:59
    -Cannot Trust a Human - 0:38, 2:09
     
    So these are the main themes present in the score, and I hope that this little guide helps you better appreciate it. Any theme or iteration I've missed?
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in John Paesano's KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2024)   
    To me it sounded like a straight lift from the ending track of Dawn, but perhaps it's a re-recording.
     
    Either way, I feel the score is better appreciated after watching the movie, since like most people here are saying, it's a bit too long and with some uninteresting tracks that work better within the film. But yeah, Paesano delivers a strong score, with a couple of really memorable new themes, that I hope he can develop in upcoming sequels!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Stark in Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga   
    I think he can be great when he's allowed. His scores for Alita and Mortal Engines, as well as some parts of the Rebel Moon scores are a testament to that. But I also feel than for a movie like Mad Max, his usual style works brilliantly, and I don't know if a different type of score would have worked in there. And I suppose Furiosa will have a similar sound, but I hope there's room to hear more pieces in the same style as Many Mothers!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from JNHFan2000 in Michael Giacchino - John Krasinski's IF (2024)   
    Pleasant and beautiful score. Indeed, it sounds like a continuation of Giacchino's scores for his Pixar and Disney films, and I really liked that. The main theme is instantly catchy and repeated throughout but never gets boring, as it has enough variation to sustain interest. The whistled variations did remind me of Dan Romer's Luca, as it employed a similar technique, but it has also been used in many other scores, and if it works well, I don't mind it. I wonder how it will work in context...
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Tom Guernsey in Michael Giacchino - John Krasinski's IF (2024)   
    Pleasant and beautiful score. Indeed, it sounds like a continuation of Giacchino's scores for his Pixar and Disney films, and I really liked that. The main theme is instantly catchy and repeated throughout but never gets boring, as it has enough variation to sustain interest. The whistled variations did remind me of Dan Romer's Luca, as it employed a similar technique, but it has also been used in many other scores, and if it works well, I don't mind it. I wonder how it will work in context...
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in HOUSE OF THE DRAGON   
    I think the trailer for House of the Dragon got leaked so they were kind of forced to put it out themselves.
     
    But yeah, I'm really looking forward to both shows. This new season of HotD looks like it's gonna be epic!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from MaxMovieMan in The Official Anime Music Thread   
    Kimetsu is back! You can think whatever you want about the show itself, but the music is as awesome as always, courtesy of Go Shiina! Here's the end credits piece of the first episode, which basically works as a suite for all the Hashira themes!
     
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Muad'Dib in The Official Anime Music Thread   
    Frieren's complete score is out! 2 and a half hours of awesome music. It's so great to hear many of the great tracks I've grown to love while watching the show. On a first listen I really enjoyed new tracks like Frieren the Slayer, Beyond the Journey's End, Great Mage Flamme and The Magic Within!
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    Knight of Ren got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in Planet Of The Apes   
    Yeah, Paesano's work on the Spider-Man games is really good. Some really strong themes in there, so I'm looking forward to hear what he has done for this. I've only listened to the first track and that new Discovery theme already feels like a development of Giacchino's theme for humanity from the previous films, and then there's also the Goldsmith references, so it's great that he's respecting what came before him!
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    Knight of Ren reacted to IheartMelissaBenoist in The Doctor Who Thread.....   
    Same time as iPlayer, I believe, meaning 7pm Eastern on Friday May 10th.
     
    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. 
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    Knight of Ren reacted to CGCJ in Tales Of The Empire (May 4th) - Mini Series   
    Here's my spreadsheet on the score if any one wants a breakdown of the soundtrack release: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11f44kZXA864sWJcZU09RCMa2LGv01GQnoO4DhYMi0IU/htmlview
     
    Looks like Jason Fujita is now writing on the scores, being credited for Seek the Healer. He was previously credited as 'Music Assistant' on Ahsoka & The Bad Batch series 3.
     
    Also, Ludwig Göransson is credited for Back to Corvus so presumably it references his score from The Mandalorian episode The Jedi.
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