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  1. On 4/3/2024 at 2:15 AM, MaxMovieMan said:

    To carry on @WampaRat’s thematic glossary I put together a thematic breakdown of the score as well as the chronological order. I’ve seen the film three times now and honestly it’s one of the best things I’ve watched in a long time. In combination with Part One I’d say this is a 10/10 movie.

     

    RETURNING THEMES/MOTIFS

     

    Dune Main Theme - 

    I’ll be classifying the four-note theme as the “A” theme and the eight-note theme as the “B” theme to stay consistent. When both play at once I’ll refer to it as the main theme.

    Fate/“The One” Theme - 

    This theme is extremely underplayed on album. The theme in this film basically becomes Jessica’s after she… changes. It’s played on woodwinds quite a lot as she enacts her plans. There is a major missing variation of this theme that plays towards the end of the film. It has the Kwisatz Haderach motif as a counterpoint. I’m sure this will be on the FYC album.

     

    Vast Mystery/Wonder Chords - 

    Sadly this motif takes a backseat in this score. It plays a select couple times but doesn’t nearly have the presence it did in the first film.

     

    Tragic Noble Theme - 

    Another theme that is diluted this time around. It has a great appearance at the end of “Only I Will Remain” but that track doesn’t actually play during the film only the credits.

     

    Impending Doom Motif - 

    Although not actually appearing as much as it did in the first film, this motif makes a major impact on the film by playing in select important scenes relating to Paul’s dark future or even the darker actions he takes here.

     

    Sorrow/Loss Motif - 

    Sadly not featured on the album but there is a track in the film that features this motif. It plays twice and both times relates to how the Bene Gesserit prophecy is taking over the Fremen and leading them to war. Hopefully this track will be on FYC album.

     

    House Atreides/Paul and Chani’s Love Theme - 

    This theme goes from barely being featured in the first film to becoming the main theme of the second. It evolves from the bagpipe power anthem for House Atreides to a beautiful woodwind/Blade Runner-esque love theme for Paul and Chani.

     

    Bene Gesserit Seduction Motif/Feyd Rautha Motif - 

    This motif was originally featured on the second half of the track, “Song of the Sisters” from the sketchbook album. It was then developed menacingly into the six-note Feyd Rautha Motif now heard in this film.

     

    Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

     

    Arrakis Drum Motif

     

    Harkonnen Screech

     

    Harkonnen Clang

     

    Fremen Chimes - 

    This is a new motif that I noticed upon rewatching both films. It’s like a small little chime march that appears when characters are walking through the rocky terrain of the Sietches. It has a big appearance that’s not on the new album but it’s when…

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    (Sandwalk Video (FYC) - 0:22)

    (Stillsuits - 1:55)

     

    NEW THEMES/MOTIFS

     

    Kwisatz Haderach Motif - 

    New dark three-note cello motif for the culmination of the Bene Gesserit breeding process; the Kwisatz Haderach. Also has a drum rhythm behind it. Blares loud in theaters and often acts as a counterpoint to other main themes. It represents both Paul and Feyd as they’re both prospects for the Kwisatz Haderach.

     

    (Harkonnen Arena - 4:48)

    (Travel South - 0:06)

    (Arrival - 0:00)

    (You Fought Well - 0:12)

     

    The Emperor’s Motif - 

    Loud and grand motif that represents the emperor of the known universe. Features choir and some brass which most of Dune doesn’t have.

     

    (The Emperor - 0:39)

     

    TRACK-BY-TRACK BREAKDOWN (In chronological order)

     

    Eclipse

     

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    0:30 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    0:45 - Tragic Noble Theme

    1:02 - Vast Mystery/Wonder Chords

    1:20 - Tragic Noble Theme

    1:36 - Impending Doom Motif

    2:30 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

    3:00 - Arrakis Drum Motif

     

    The Sietch

     

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    0:02 - Fremen Chimes
    0:40 - Dune “A” Theme

    1:12 - Dune Main Theme

    1:24 - Dune “A” Theme

    2:15 - Fate/“The One” Theme

    2:22 - Arrakis Drum Motif

     

    Cistern of Souls (UNRELEASED)

     

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    Water of Life

     

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    0:12 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

     

    The Beauty and the Horror (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:23 - Fate/“The One” Theme

    0:46 - Arrakis Drum Motif

     

    Beginnings Are Such Delicate Times

     

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    0:00 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    0:19 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

     

    Paul and Chani (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:01 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

    1:02 - Fate/“The One” Theme

    1:14 - Arrakis Drum Motif

     

    Harvester Attack

     

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    1:04 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    1:45 - Impending Doom Motif

    3:10 - Dune “A” Theme

     

    A Time of Quiet Between Storms

     

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    0:28 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

     

    Worm Ride

     

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    0:03 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    0:44 - Fate/“The One” Theme

    0:51 - Dune Main Theme

     

    Jessica’s Manipulation (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:10 - Fate/“The One” Theme

    0:25 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    0:55 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

     

    Jessica Heads South (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:19 - Sorrow/Loss Motif

    0:58 - Fremen Chimes

    1:35 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

     

    Ornithopter Attack

     

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    0:03 - Harkonnen Screech

    0:06 - Harkonnen Clang

    1:30 - I don’t know what theme this is but it sounds like something from Batman lol.

     

    Bene Gesserit Plan (UNRELEASED)

     

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    Each Man Is a Little War

     

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    Harkonnen Arena

     

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    0:29 - Harkonnen Screech

    0:45 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

    0:52 - Harkonnen Screech

    1:12 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

    1:37 - Harkonnen Screech

    1:40 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

    1:59 - Harkonnen Clang

    2:13 - Kwisatz Haderach Motif Rhythm

    2:15 - Harkonnen Screech

    3:25 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

    4:48 - Kwisatz Haderach Motif Rhythm

    5:00 - Harkonnen Screech

     

    The Baron’s Gift (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:23 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

    1:04 - Harkonnen Screech

     

    Seduction

     

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    0:04 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

    0:50 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

     

    Feyd’s Anointment (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:31 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

     

    Gurney Reunion (UNRELEASED)

     

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    1:36 - Tragic Noble Theme

     

    War is Coming (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:14 - Sorrow/Loss Motif

     

    Atreides Arsenal (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:19 - Sorrow/Loss Motif

    1:35 - Fate/“The One” Theme

     

    Baby Sandworm (UNRELEASED)

     

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    1:36 - Impending Doom Motif

     

    Spice

     

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    The Bombing of Sietch Tabr (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:20 - Harkonnen Screech

    0:20 - Harkonnen Clang

    1:36 - Bene Gesserit Seduction/Feyd Rautha Motif

    5:08 - Vast Mystery/Wonder Chords

     

    Never Lose Me

     

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    0:09 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

     

    Travel South

     

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    0:06 - Dune “A” Theme

    0:06 - Kwisatz Haderach Motif

    0:54 - Fate/“The One” Theme

     

    Paul Drinks (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:35 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

     

    Paul’s Vision (UNRELEASED)

     

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    1:00 - Dune “B” Theme

    1:17 - Vast Mystery/Wonder Chords

    1:58 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

     

    Resurrection

     

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    0:04 - Fate/“The One” Theme

    0:58 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

    1:35 - Impending Doom Motif

     

    Arrival

     

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    0:00 - Kwisatz Haderach Motif

    0:56 - Dune “A” Theme

     

    Southern Messiah

     

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    1:22 - Impending Doom Motif

    1:42 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

    2:02 - Impending Doom Motif

    4:05 - Vast Mystery/Wonder Chords

    4:18 - Tragic Noble Theme

    4:43 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    4:46 - Impending Doom Motif

     

    The Emperor

     

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    0:39 - The Emperor’s Motif

     

    The Baron Confronts the Emperor (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:02 - Bene Gesserit Whispers/Chant

    0:19 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    3:10 - The Emperor’s Motif

     

    Long Live the Fighters (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:24 - Dune “A” Theme

    0:42 - The Kwisatz Haderach Motif

    1:00 - Fate/“The One” Motif

    1:16 - Dune “A” Theme

     

    Worm Army

     

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    1:30 - Dune “A” Theme

    2:14 - Bane?!?

    2:32 - Dune “A” Theme

     

    Paul Kills the Baron (UNRELEASED)

     

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    0:02 - Impending Doom Motif

    2:01 - Arrakis Drum Motif

     

    Gurney Battle

     

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    0:05 - Harkonnen Screech

    0:26 - House Atreides Theme

    2:05 - Harkonnen Screech

     

    You Fought Well

     

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    0:01 - Dune “B” Theme

    0:12 - Kwisatz Haderach Motif

    0:48 - Dune “B” Theme

    0:48 - Kwisatz Haderach Motif

     

    Kiss the Ring

     

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    0:33 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

     

    Only I Will Remain

     

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    0:00 - House Atreides/Paul and Chani Love Theme

    3:42 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    3:54 - Tragic Noble Theme

    5:29 - Vast Mystery/Wonder Chords

     

    Lisan al Gaib

     

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    0:00 - Fate/“The One” Theme

    0:05 - Arrakis Drum Motif

    2:30 - Dune “B” Theme

    4:09 - Dune Main Theme

    6:11 - Arrakis Drum Motif

     

    Correct me on any mistakes I made and I hope you enjoyed the post.


    I updated this breakdown with the unreleased tracks and also I have now come to realize that Feyd’s motif is actually just the seduction motif from the second half of “Song of the Sisters.” Hans decided to use the same motif again for a different purpose just like the House Atreides theme (Although the seduction motif was never heard in the first film only the sketchbook album).

  2. Just watched Civil War. Good movie but has a very bleak message. I don’t know if I’ll ever rewatch it. If it is Alex Garland’s last film I find that interesting. The movie is really about journalism and how it numbs you to the reality of things. Think Nightcrawler meets The Hurt Locker. I still need to watch Men but of the other three Garland directed films I’d rank them from best to worst as Ex Machina, Annihilation, and lastly Civil War.

  3. He definitely made the message more obvious. I think part of the reason it worked so well in the books is because it really is a complete heel-turn. You go from the heroic ending of the first book to the complete tragedy in the beginning of the second. Paul isn’t as twisted in the book as he is in the movie. Herbert essentially wrote Messiah to make the point he was trying to make clearer. He felt he didn’t do a good enough job. So that’s probably why Denis made it more obvious that Paul is turning into a sinister character. The third movie won’t have as much of the shock value that the books had I don’t think but I still believe that Denis really knows what he’s doing. He has a plan.

  4. Zimmer will have a lot of time to come up with ideas for the third film considering Denis probably won’t make this for another five years or so. I’m honestly so excited for this film. More than I was for the first two movies. The second Dune book is where the message of the series truly comes into view.

  5. I quite enjoy the themes and their variations. They’ve grown on me a lot. Like genuinely the melody of the main theme and the tragic noble theme are perfect in my mind. Listening to the music outside the film is like going into a dream-like state.

  6. 4 hours ago, dylanskie said:

    I love the second half of "Only I Will Remain." It sounds like light to me, which is interesting because I think that theme is meant to be foreboding and convey destruction. But the variation in that track doesn't do that for me.


    I think that’s what Hans was going for honestly. The beauty and majesty of Paul getting his revenge and becoming emperor but also the realization of what it all really means

  7. 34 minutes ago, MedigoScan said:

    Honestly half of that track felt different. I could not even hear any of the vocals in the movie.


    The track also got cut awkwardly short to match Paul’s speech so the build-up isn’t right. It sounds edited and weird. Still though the moment is spectacular in film and this is just me being a picky film score nerd.

  8. Lmfao not worth arguing about something I know I’m correct on. You believe what you wanna believe my friend. Just for an experiment though why don’t you listen to the track “House Atreides” and then the track “Only I Will Remain.” Also the Atreides theme played twice in Part One like I said and the Dune A theme is MOSTLY for sandworms. B theme is for the prophecy (The ocean on Arrakis you mentioned) and Paul, like I said.

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