KK 3,307 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Well done Incanus! This deserves a star! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,363 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Thief! Stealing Jay's gold stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 He didn't show up in time! I'm sure taking one little star from his hoard won't hurt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I suspected this. Remember the distinct lack of McKellen when the film was all but ready to shoot? I remember worrying about it. I even saw a brief red carpet interview with him somewhere where he bemoaned the fact that he hadn't actually been officially asked by Peter yet to reprise his role, and I could sense his irritence at that, his stretched patience was visible. I suppose at that time PJ was otherwise locking horns with the unions and all that stuff, but he still had no right to take McKellen's participation for granted, as I imagine he possibly did. But yeah, phew indeed. I'd have been absolutely gutted.And what's all this talk of quitting? Was he referring to the unplanned extention of his commitment to the films? He almost sounds pissed off about it...Understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I really don't see how this film could hope to work without him. alicebrallice and Ren 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 It wouldn't have worked. The thought of them replacing McKellen makes me sick. I wonder if they would have actually gone through with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I remember that this was reported ages ago but I never worried about him not doing the part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Everyone calm down. They had to replace Bilbo with a younger man so there's no reason they couldn't have done the same with Gandalf based on a cock-a-mamie idea that fifty years prior, an immortal Istari would look noticeably younger......IF they could not have resolved union disputes that would have led to him not able to return.Or if McKellen had actually died in the interim. What then? Christopher Lee's old, too, what would have happened then?They had to replace Dumbledore after three movies. James Bond goes through the same kind of face and body regeneration that The Doctor undergoes every so many years. Actor replacement is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 They had to replace Dumbledore after three movies. Two movies Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 A set of eight films has a standard deviation of 2.449. I was within acceptable parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Everyone calm down.Sorry, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Everyone calm down. They had to replace Bilbo with a younger man so there's no reason they couldn't have done the same with Gandalf based on a cock-a-mamie idea that fifty years prior, an immortal Istari would look noticeably younger......IF they could not have resolved union disputes that would have led to him not able to return.Or if McKellen had actually died in the interim. What then? Christopher Lee's old, too, what would have happened then?They had to replace Dumbledore after three movies. James Bond goes through the same kind of face and body regeneration that The Doctor undergoes every so many years. Actor replacement is nothing new.Bilbo was only a secondary character in the LOTR films, same for Harris as Dumbledore.Ian McKellen has I think always been considered the best cast and most successfully translated character from book to screen of the LOTR franchise.He's pitch perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Everyone calm down.Sorry, what?Say what again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Say what one more time! I dare ya, I double dog dare ya, mother fucker!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 ×bitch-slaps Koray× Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Girls slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 are you drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 mckellen is great as gandalf unsubstituable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Ian McKellen has I think always been considered the best cast and most successfully translated character from book to screen of the LOTR franchise.He's pitch perfect.Even I can agree to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 McKellen sold me as Gandalf the moment he said his "A wizard is never late..." line and started to laugh.Best character intro since Connery's "My name is Bond, James Bond" line in Doctor No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alicebrallice 134 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 oh god.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Bad taste.Maybe that's the point. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alicebrallice 134 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 that one looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Looks like me after a particularly hard night of drinking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 The Great Goblin looks like absolute rubbish! Only PJ can go so much overboard with the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It's neck is quite repulsive. Mikko, maybe I'm hearing you wrong, but you should perhaps first and foremost bear in mind that Jackson is a gore director at heart, he's something of a repulsion and gore aficionado. Since he can't have that stuff in these PG rated movies probably accounts for his embellishments with the creature design, as well as incidental details like hatchets buried in craniums. It would help you if you could refrain from viewing his stylings from a strictly J. R. R. Tolkien point of view and be more accepting of the fact that you're going to be viewing Middle-Earth again through the imagination of a film maker who enjoys brandishing broad artistic licence. With The Hobbit, Jackson appears to be free of the outlandish design constraints he was under while making the fiscally risky LotR trilogy and is embracing the free reign he's been given (earned) to make these movies however he deems fit. Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,716 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 The Great Goblin looks like absolute rubbish! Only PJ can go so much overboard with the design. Could you please stop puking? It's my job to do that.Duly noted. I will refrain from such activity on the MB from this day forward.It's neck is quite repulsive. Mikko, maybe I'm hearing you wrong, but you should perhaps first and foremost bear in mind that Jackson is a gore director at heart, he's something of a repulsion and gore aficionado. Since he can't have that stuff in these PG rated movies probably accounts for his embellishments with the creature design, as well as incidental details like hatchets buried in craniums. It would help you if you could refrain from viewing his stylings from a strictly J. R. R. Tolkien point of view and be more accepting of the fact that you're going to be viewing Middle-Earth through the imagination of a film maker who enjoys brandishing broad artistic licence.Oh yes I know Jackson's roots and certain aesthetics but I do not have to agree with them even though I know what are the reasons behind some of his designs. The sheer excess repulsiveness of the work is just not to my liking. I have not seen his gore and splatter movies for that very reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 The Great Goblin looks like absolute rubbish! Only PJ can go so much overboard with the design. Could you please stop puking? It's my job to do that.Duly noted. I will refrain from such activity on the MB from this day forward.It's neck is quite repulsive. Mikko, maybe I'm hearing you wrong, but you should perhaps first and foremost bear in mind that Jackson is a gore director at heart, he's something of a repulsion and gore aficionado. Since he can't have that stuff in these PG rated movies probably accounts for his embellishments with the creature design, as well as incidental details like hatchets buried in craniums. It would help you if you could refrain from viewing his stylings from a strictly J. R. R. Tolkien point of view and be more accepting of the fact that you're going to be viewing Middle-Earth through the imagination of a film maker who enjoys brandishing broad artistic licence.Oh yes I know Jackson's roots and certain aesthetics but I do not have to agree with them even though I know what are the reasons behind some of his designs. The sheer excess repulsiveness of the work is just not to my liking. I have not seen his gore and splatter movies for that very reason.But at the same time, if you have yourself elected to be so hugely enthusiastic about this motion picture project, which you have, then surely you should at least afford Jackson the right to make these films his way and give up the grouchy, dissatisfied and pointless complaints every time you are shown something new from them? Because it smacks of petulance, frankly. You do not get to cherry pick your best bits out of the finished article and grumble at all the other things you don't like just because they might not align with the versions of your own imagination. That would be terribly entitled and spoilt, imo.It's almost as if you begrudgingly accept receipt of this new, imperfect trilogy; being as it is indeed the only way you're ever going to get any working version of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Stephen Colbert to have a cameo in one of the Hobbit films Admiral Holdo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Cool, he's a huge LOTR fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 better look at bolg!!!:http://www.theonerin...-bolg-spoilers/sweet mother of god. I wasn't planning on sleeping tonight anyway... Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Also remember the comment from one of the production diaries, the colors used in the sets and costumes are often overdone to compensate for the inherent darkening of the 3D process. To in the film this may look a bit less garish then on a still picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Scary eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I kinda like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I actually have no major problem with it. At least he's not CGI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 kinda looks like that girl from the exorcist went way over the line with her halloween costume. not saying that's a bad thing.I'm definitely terrified and that's a nice surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yeah the hairy Orcs are one of PJs specialities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Exclusive: Scans of The Hobbit Playing Card Deck!Lots of new pictures.Hey thanks for that link, lots of cool new pics! Some good ones of Gandalf and Bilbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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