King Mark 3,631 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Williams definately wrote more than 40 minutes.The Quidditch music and the Lucius Malfoy cues are definately his.And he certainly wrote PART of cues Ross might have adapted the rest of,like the opening and closing of Reunion of Friends,the end of The Story Continues (I forget what it's called,the first cue).but I'll concede I wouldn't see Williams re-use the entire The House Cup or Dark Forest music if he had time to write the entire score.But these are STILL written by him,only re-recorded.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Which is basically what I've been saying for a very long time.I think that's what most of us level headed people have been trying to say.Just trying to spell it out for some people.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I'll agree to an extended explaination of Ray's.Some tracks on the album sound part stitched up and part new.That could be due to the editing of the album incorporating new Williams material into stitched up old stuff from SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 So what are you all trying to say here?Maybe Ross should come aboard for Deathly Hallows, abandoning every personal preference, and just adapt the music from Williams, Doyle, and Hooper.It would be like the story of Cinderella all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I think that's my point.If he could write NEW music that sound exactly like Williams then sure,bring him on for Deathly Hallows.And why not Indy 4 for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 It sounds like Williams on auto-pilot. And bored. And predictable. Unless you can't tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I think that's my point.If he could write NEW music that sound exactly like Williams then sure,bring him on for Deathly Hallows.And why not Indy 4 for that matter.What the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I think we all just need to take a breath here...Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Yes, it's time for a much more relaxed, less polarizing discussion here.So what's Lucas up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 The prequels suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Should've left off the wink.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Damn edit button!Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 My friend will love that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Oh,that's one of these "Free Smilies" downloads that come with a virus or a new unwanted toolbar in IE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Maybe, but in this case, a simple google image search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Can you imagine if each smiley we posted was that big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 The sheer weight would collapse the message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Isn't that a guinea pig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Can you imagine if each smiley we posted was that big?The bunny made me and a friend laugh out loud. It deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Looks like a lemming to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Haven't looked at this thread in a while... but if this is accurate, Williams may be back to Potter before the end after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Not only is this good news about HP, it also proves that BS thing about Zimmer scoring Indy 4 was totally fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Great news, indeed! I'm so jelous for that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Wow, I really hope that's true.But can you imagine how long it will be before we get the complete unedited "Battle of Hogwarts" cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 By the time the movie comes out Williams will be 78. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 So we may expect a very mature score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 There's a good chance that by the time he writes the final cue for the film, he forgot what his principal thematic ideas were for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Haven't looked at this thread in a while... but if this is accurate, Williams may be back to Potter before the end after all.Well, that certainly is uplifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 If he does take the baton one more time...I want him to do it with class and style, I want him to incorproate the music of his predecessors and make it all 10x better, despite them not completely taking his ideas when it was their turn.That would put a smile on my face. That's all assuming he'd have the capacity to floor us, and then wipe the said floor with his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 According to the link: "he [John Williams] was sorely missed on the last two films (not to detract from Doyle's or Hooper's excellent work)." How would JW know that? Did he and the directors talk trash about Doyle and Hooper?? By the time the movie comes out Williams will be 78.I just hope he lives long enough...God, I wish he were immortal!On the same note, do you think JW will write music until his death, or will he retire first?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Look a Bob Barker,he just retired and he's like 85 or something.It may be true,or another random Williams diplomatic answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 If he does take the baton one more time...I want him to do it with class and style, I want him to incorproate the music of his predecessors and make it all 10x better, despite them not completely taking his ideas when it was their turn.What music of Doyle's or Hooper's would you want him to incorporate? Ray Barnsbury - who'll take 7 shots of firewhiskey if this turns out to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 According to the link: "he [John Williams] was sorely missed on the last two films (not to detract from Doyle's or Hooper's excellent work)." How would JW know that? Did he and the directors talk trash about Doyle and Hooper?? The guy who posted told JW that he was sorely missed, JW did not say "I was sorely missed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 LOL...how presumptuous of him.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 What music of Doyle's or Hooper's would you want him to incorporate? Patrick Doyle's Harry theme, his new Voldemort theme (2x better than the melodramatic one that was for all intents and purposes rightfully thrown out after the first film), Nicholas Hooper's theme for Dumbledore's Army Umbridge and Posession theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 2x better than the melodramatic one that was for all intents and purposes rightfully thrown out after the first filmyeah whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 It's not my problem you don't appreciate subtlety and coldness, versus overt emotional evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I want him to incorproate the music of his predecessors and make it all 10x better, despite them not completely taking his ideas when it was their turn.There's no way most of the themes he wrote will return, much less other people's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yeah pretty much. But one can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yeah,I can dream Williams will write great new themes,not incorporate Doyle's and Hooper's crappy to mediocre ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I would only want Umbridge's Theme, if she appears. Doyle's Harry theme is terribly bland, and his Voldemort motif creates a nice creepy atmosphere but isn't as impressive or effective as the snaky, sinister theme from the first score. What do you consider the theme for Dumbledore's Army? The clarinet line from that track?Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Not only is this good news about HP, it also proves that BS thing about Zimmer scoring Indy 4 was totally fake.you fell for what I wrote, well damn it was worth it then, there is a sucker born everyday afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I feel bad for Hooper. He did a good job (much better than Doyle), and he's lined up for the sixth one. Why would they let him continue to score if they didn't think he was capable of doing the 7th? It's pretty rude to sign him just to fill the gap until Wiliams can return. I doubt Williams will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 What music of Doyle's or Hooper's would you want him to incorporate? Patrick Doyle's Harry theme, his new Voldemort theme (2x better than the melodramatic one that was for all intents and purposes rightfully thrown out after the first film), Nicholas Hooper's theme for Dumbledore's Army Umbridge and Posession theme.Oh, please... That´s very much like dearly hoping Mozart would elaborate on the blandest ideas of Dittersdorf (who was still a fairly good composer, at least).Williams couldn´t have penned anything as unimaginative or mediocre (or worse) as the themes you´d want him to reprise even if he tried. Thank God.Marcus (very much hoping for as many new Williams projects as possible, film or other) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I feel bad for Hooper. He did a good job (much better than Doyle), and he's lined up for the sixth one. Why would they let him continue to score if they didn't think he was capable of doing the 7th?Because they realised that the albums sell no matter who's behind them or how good the music is. So it's better to avoid a fallout with the director and pay less for a lesser skilled composer and have the same profit.It's that simple.Even the producers behind Harry Potter can't possibly think that a light and fluffy "theme" like Dumbledore's Army is suitable for the tone of the last two books. That's the kind of music John Williams would use as counterpoint to a real theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Williams couldn´t have penned anything as unimaginative or mediocre (or worse) as the themes you´d want him to reprise even if he tried. Thank God.America, the Dream Goes On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 That was . . . a lapse in judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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