Quintus 5,399 Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 I've heard that elsewhere, too. It was enough to put me off getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just bought Independence Day on BD. My speakers will never forgive me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just bought Independence Day on BD. My speakers will never forgive me.Fox did a phenomenal job at giving Independence Day the HD transfer. I wonder if we'll have to pony up for the "Director's Cut" if it's released.I really do hope that The Abyss and True Lies get a Blu-Ray treatment with proper aspect ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I don't really care for the Director's Cut. I was surprised to find the trailers got an HD upgrade on the disc too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 It's an awesome package, and a lovely disc.I remember Joey saying the image quality was disappointing for Blu-ray. Normal DVD doesn't look that good either. It's probably shot on bad stock.I stand by my belief. It's not a great transfer. Looking online I see half the blu ray community thinks I'm wrong, the other half thinks I'm right. All in all not the prettiest picture to me but it's still an excellent bargain. All three movies for 10 bucks on blu with tons of extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 63 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 I stand by my belief. It's not a great transfer. Looking online I see half the blu ray community thinks I'm wrong, the other half thinks I'm right. All in all not the prettiest picture to me but it's still an excellent bargain. All three movies for 10 bucks on blu with tons of extras.It probably comes down to if you are okay with lots of grain and very obvious visual effects or not. I think it's not great to look at, but probably very faithful to the source. In other words, probably didn't look much better in the theaters back in the day, either. Certainly the best way to watch the movie if you like it, and well worth its $10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 The aspect ratio on The Abyss is 100% accurate, it's just not done in 16:9.I stand by my belief. It's not a great transfer. Looking online I see half the blu ray community thinks I'm wrong, the other half thinks I'm right. All in all not the prettiest picture to me but it's still an excellent bargain. All three movies for 10 bucks on blu with tons of extras.It probably comes down to if you are okay with lots of grain and very obvious visual effects or not. I think it's not great to look at, but probably very faithful to the source. In other words, probably didn't look much better in the theaters back in the day, either. Certainly the best way to watch the movie if you like it, and well worth its $10.Definitely. Quint, you need this in your collection. You know it to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 That ID4 BD made me feel like an awe-struck 11-year-old kid in 1996 again. I love Blu-Ray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,212 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 It's an awesome package, and a lovely disc.I remember Joey saying the image quality was disappointing for Blu-ray. Normal DVD doesn't look that good either. It's probably shot on bad stock.It looks much better than the DVD, and it doesn't look bad at all in general. Unlike on the DVD, where contrast in the fx shots was a serious problem (the documentary blamed the compositing process, implying that the DVD contrast was the best the original finished film could provide), you can clearly see the stars in all the night shots on the Blu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Marian, I've put the dvd and blu back to back and there is almost no difference in the quality. The dvd looks basically the same. You can clearly see the stars in the dvd version as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 During which scene should I see stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,212 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 The early night scenes with Roy on the road. Not seeing the stars was perhaps a poor wording on my part, since that also depends a lot on your display equipment, but when I watched it, the Blu had clearly improved contrast over the DVD, making the blacks in the effects shots much darker than the greyish skies on the DVD version. And obviously the Blu's resolution is much higher, which on its own will improve any night sky shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 How can we trust you, Marian? You have a projector. With projectors, there's too many things one needs to take into account. The quality varies from model to model, from brand to brand, the room, the projection size, et cetera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Listen to the man.It's clearly better than the DVD. If you don't realise that, you have a faulty BD player or TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 there is almost no difference in the quality. The dvd looks basically the same. You can clearly see the stars in the dvd version as well.Clearly better?I just checked the scene (scene 6) of the DVD where little Barry runs on the road. OMG, it's full of stars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 I have the DVD and the picture is already very good, however Marian's claim that the contrast on the sfx shots is much better in the Blu version is tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I have the DVD and the picture is already very goodWhich DVD do you have? Mine has faded colors and there's quite a bit of grain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 I have the 2001 collectors edition. I quite like grain, remember It's been a while but I do remember the unsightly contrast during the sfx shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I think CE3K BD looks fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,212 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Well, I should mention that I never did a direct comparison between the DVD and the Blu, but I definitely was positively surprised by the Blu, which seemed to look clearly better than I had expected the movie could. Obviously, the image quality is not perfect compared to more recent films, or probably even older film material with no or few compositing effects, but you probably can't expect that from CE3K.Here are some screenshots of the two versions for comparison:http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/closeencounters.htmhttp://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews33/close_encounters_of_the_third_kind_blu-ray.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 R1 looks better, sharper than R2. And HF, the Blu-ray looks definitely better than the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 It looks better than DVD to me. More like film, as opposed to video. As is the case with most BDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Of course, but the sharpness of the old R2 DVD is too soft. The Blu-ray seems to solve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Blu is always better than DVD, except in cases where the studio fucks up and goes crazy with edge enhancement and DNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,148 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I remember being in the store, just staring at the laserdisc box set of CE3K, sometime in the 90s. I didn't own a laserdisc player. And there was no way I was plunking down $100+ dollars for the thing. But the idea of bonus features just fascinated me at the time, as VHS had no such extras.Years later, I can't believe I just ordered the Blu-Ray for $7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Now we play the waiting game. Although you Europeans don't have to.(A.I. on Blu) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,349 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Blu is always better than DVD, I was hoping they fixed the rest as well. It still doesn't look good enough to warrant another purchase of the same film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Charlie,I don't think the aspect ratio for The Abyss DVD is correct. I thought I've read else where that it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 5, 2010 Author Share Posted December 5, 2010 Now we play the waiting game. Although you Europeans don't have to.(A.I. on Blu)I guess that would be a good excuse to watch that movie a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Charlie,I don't think the aspect ratio for The Abyss DVD is correct. I thought I've read else where that it wasn't..Like Charlie said, the aspect ratio on The Abyss DVD is correct. It's just non-anamorphic (which, as we should all know by now, is hopelessly outdated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I noticed that A.I. is out in Japan. Dreamworks strikes again with their terrible cover art.Do yourself a favor and get An American Werewolf in London for 9 bucks if you don't already have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 And now it's official. February 15, 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I will run and not get this.The movie collection I want this Christmas isn't available in blu, and I'm not sure that blu would or could add much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Was at Wally World, it showed the Blu-Ray set of the first six Star Trek films for $24.99. I was like, 'Damn what a steal!'. It turns out that the $24.99 price tag was meant for the Blu-Ray 3-Disc set for Star Trek (2009). So I got that instead. About time I picked that one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 even though I'm not a fan of that film, it does look great on blu, but the flares are even more annoying in blu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 even though I'm not a fan of that film, it does look great on blu, but the flares are even more annoying in bluI will agree about the flares being more annoying. I thought the film looked good on regular DVD but you're right it looks great on Blu-Ray.I hope the next Star Trek film J.J. Abrams does, he cuts down on the lens flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 That was my first ever Blu purchase, and it does indeed look stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I would have bought the old Star Trek movies for that price. I don't want the new one at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm waiting for a better release of TMP-VI before getting them. I've read the current Blu releases are poor transfer rush jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I've read that. I've also read they look fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I viewed them on Netflix and thought they looked just fine in High Def. I do want to get the other 10 Star Trek films on Blu-Ray but it's gotta wait until next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm not replacing all my dvds with blu, but most of my new purchases are in blu, except for old black and white movies.Ben Hur is being release in BLU soon. It will be a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 63 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm waiting for a better release of TMP-VI before getting them. I've read the current Blu releases are poor transfer rush jobs.I have two of these (II and VI). It's definitely a nice upgrade, but could certainly be improved upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Anddd ... The latest addition to my BR collection is ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Anddd ... The latest addition to my BR collection is ...Nice I plan to get that as well next year. I actually like the movie but want it on Blu-Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I haven't seen it before, so that was an additional reason for me buying it, the main being a very high grades for HD video and audio quality on High-Def Digest:Every minute detail is distinct and resolute in any number of scenes with great outlining in a variety of objects. Nowhere else is the image's sharpness more evident than during the many scenes of CGI disaster as every person scuffling and grappling for safety and protection is plainly perceptible amidst all the well-defined rumble and mayhem. Adding to the striking picture quality are the rich and dynamic black levels, furnishing the flick with pleasing dimensionality. Shadow delineation is equally excellent as background info is observable in the darkest portions of the frame. Contrast is spot-on, with crisp gradations in the grayscale and wonderful visibility and clarity of random items in the distance. Colors are vividly saturated and accurately rendered at the same time that facial complexions appear warm, natural, and revealing.(Complete review can be found here.) I know this is purely popcorn entertainment stuff, but, having not watched it yet and having read the review, I still couldn't help myself and had to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 It's shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 It's fun for what it is, and the VFX rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 It's fun for what it is, and the VFX rock.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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