John Crichton 4 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 OK, the combination of the "favorite theme" thread and the upcoming NFL and college playoffs inspired me to have our own little showdown to determine our favorite Williams theme. Let's face it, a straight poll is just too boring. I'm going to set this up as an NFL playoff style tournament: 12 themes, and the top 4 seeds get a bye into the second round. Each matchup will be a one on one poll, and I'll open up every round at once rather than one matchup at a time (4 1st round, 4 2nd round, 2 semifinals, 1 final).So first off, we need to choose the participating themes. This will be the hard part. I figure the only fair way is to poll it. I'd like everyone to list here their personal top 10 themes, in any order. No rankings please. The top 12 mentioned will move into the tournament. I reserve the right to seed them at my discresion based on the results. If there's a tie for 12th there'll be a preliminary round to determine which one gets in the final bracket.To give everyone a chance I'll leave this open for a while, until the new year. On January 2nd nominations will be closed and the tournament will begin.EDIT- Apologies everyone. Looking at the calendar I just remembered that I'm going to be on vacation and out of contact the whole last week of January. So to give the tournament the full time it deserves, I'm moving the nomination deadline up to December 26. Thanks to everyone participating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Sounds fun.Orca ThemeForce ThemeImperial MarchYoda's ThemePrincess Leia's Theme"Island Motiv", or whatever it is called, from "Jurassic Park"Grail ThemeMarch from "Superman" (yes, even I heard that theme)Cowboys Overture Tale of Viktor NavorskiWhoah, those were hard. This list changes everyday, though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 I know, picking ten is hard. It'll take me a while to come up with my list. But I figured it was the fairest way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Theme from Jurassic ParkHan Solo and the PrincessHarry's Wondrous WorldHedwig's ThemePeter's Theme from Hook (aka Neverland Theme)Superman Theme (specifically B theme if distinction needed)Force ThemeRaider's March (specifically B theme if distinction needed )Imperial MarchThe Search for the Blue Fairie theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Crap...this is difficult.- Neverland's Theme (I'm not totally sure if this is the correct name, but it's the one heard at the end of "Arrival of Tink and Flight to Neverland")- Raiders March- Love Theme from Far and Away- Double Trouble- Hedwig's Theme- Dry Your Tears, Afrika- The Ark Theme- Rebel Fanfare- Love Theme from Superman- Han Solo and the PrincessEDIT: List edited to include the Ark Theme, which I totally forgot about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,064 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Jane EyreSuperman MarchTowering Inferno1941 MarchRaiders MarchSchindler's ListLost WorldJawsStar Wars E.T. (Flying) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Sounds like fun.1. The Force theme2. Leia's theme3. Raiders March4. Ark theme5. Hedwig's theme6. Anakin's theme7. The Missouri Breaks love theme8. Jazz Autographs9. The Fury main theme10. I want to say something from A.I. ... but kind of the entire score... um... Blue Fairy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 1. Born on the Fourth of July - Main Theme2. The Force Theme3. Love Theme from Superman4. Han and Leia5. Love theme from Jane Eyre6. Vader's Theme7. The Ark Theme8. Indy's theme9. Window to the Past10. Cadillac of the Skies11. (I'm sorry for the extra) E.T. and Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Flying ThemeLove Theme From SupermanMarch From 1941Hedwig's ThemeTheme From Schindler's ListTheme From Jurassic ParkShort Round's ThemeSean's ThemeCrimebuster's ThemeAvner's Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Today's selections from an ever mutable list:"Main Title" from The Reivers"The Imperial March" from The Empire Strikes Back"Flying" from E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial"Toy Planes, Home and Hearth" from Empire of the Sun"Somewhere in My Memory" from Home Alone"Theme" from Jurassic Park"The Days Between" from Stepmom"Ann and Gabriel" from The Patriot"Monica's Theme" from A.I. Artificial Intelligence"A Window to the Past" from Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 1. Jurassic Park (Second half of "Journey to the Island")2. Force Theme3. Anakin's theme4. Imperial March5. Superman's theme6. March of the Slave Children7. Indiana Jones8. Star Wars main theme9 Smee's Plan (whoever's theme that is)10. Across the StarsAt the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 11. (I'm sorry for the extra) E.T. and ElliotAnd I'm sorry- it won't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I figured - but I felt it had to be mentioned anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Give me John Williams or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Han and LeiaForce themeImperial MarchYoda's themeDuel of the FatesHedwig's themeWindow to the PastMarion's themeSlave Children theme from TODGrail theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Is this "Window to the Past" that good? I need to check it out....EDIT: Wow. That was stunningly beautiful. It reminds me of "Recollections" from "Catch Me If You Can". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Force themeRemembrances Raider's MarchSuperman themeJurassic Park Flying from E.T. Orca themeA Window to the PastMonica's themeNeverland theme (if I had to pick just one from Hook) Man that was hard. So many great themes that I didn't include. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Nice idea!Princess Leia's ThemeArk ThemeParade of the Slave ChildrenDance of the WitchesStar of BethlehemFar and Away ThemeHedwig's ThemeMonica's ThemeFawkes the PhoenixA Window to the Past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Luke Skywalker's ThemeBen's ThemeRebel FanfareYoda's ThemeRaiders MarchE.T. Flying ThemeHedwig's ThemeSuperman MarchChildhood Theme (from Hook)Somewhere In My Memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Luke Skywalker's theme (SW main theme)Imperial MarchThe Force ThemeDuel of the FatesRaiders MarchSlave Children's CrusadeLove theme from SupermanOver the Moon from E.T.Flying Theme from Hook ?????? (not sure what it's called, it's the one from the Prologue)Fawkes the PhoenixThat was harder than I expected and I'm probably leaving some themes I love that don't come to mind right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuttersteps 1 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Longstanding question I've had regarding the Superman Theme (or March): Is it one theme or in fact two?I've always felt John Williams composed two themes for Superman, a notion reinforced by the leitmotiv breakdown in the exceptional Superman FSM book released w/ the set this year:1) Superman Fanfare: "A formal, triumphant statement full of confident heroism...played throughout the score."2) Superman March, A Theme: "The main theme for Superman often played in conjunction with the fanfare."Of course the March itself contains the B theme as well as the Love theme but as far as primary themes, does Superman have two? Either theme individually would have sufficed but that Williams gave us both is a true gift to us. I wonder if his approach can be likened to that of the Raiders March, where he wrote two great themes and fused them into one spectacular composition.What do you guys think? One theme or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 I just edited the first post, the nomination deadline has been moved up to December 26. Sorry 'bout that.Stuttersteps, it's one theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm surprised the response has been so tepid so far -- quite a contrast from JWFAN Top 10 polling several years ago, when we had several long dormant members reemerge, along with a slew of new registrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm surprised the response has been so tepid so far -- quite a contrast from JWFAN Top 10 polling several years ago, when we had several long dormant members reemerge, along with a slew of new registrations.I'm a bit surprised too. Maybe they're just taking their time to think about it, it's really complicated I left out several themes I absolutely love (the grail theme, the fury, dance of the witches...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonblueeyes 0 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 1. Raiders March2. Imperial March3. Love Theme From Superman4. Star Wars - Main Title5. Short Round's Theme6. Dance of The Witches7. Schindler's List - Theme8. Duel Of The Fates9. March Of The Villians10. Princess Leia's ThemeI wish I had room to include "E.T. And Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Twice I've started typing out a top 10 and had to abort because i just can't narrow it down to 10... yet. i'll try again soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,754 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Born on the Fourth of July main themeSlave Children theme (ToD)Luke and LeiaIllumination theme (LC)Dinosaur theme (Journey to the Island, 5 mins in)Monica's themeHarry's theme (0:10 into HWW)Superman MarchThe Cowboys main themeThe from JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm surprised the response has been so tepid so far -- quite a contrast from JWFAN Top 10 polling several years ago, when we had several long dormant members reemerge, along with a slew of new registrations.Thanks, Alan.I did some preliminary tallying last night and we have quite the race for the 12th place cutoff, so get those ballots in people! One week left.John- who'll have his in later this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,276 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Heinrich's theme (from Seven Years in Tibet, heard in the beginning of Leaving Ingrid)Dry Your Tears, AfrikaRemembrancesA Prayer for PeaceCall of the CrystalThe Force ThemeScherzo for Motorcycle and OrchestraThe Days BetweenDavid's Theme (the unreleased piano theme from AI)Theme from Sabrina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 Force themeSuperman MarchLove Theme from SupermanAcross the StarsArk themeRaiders MarchHedwig's themeA Window to the PastSchindler's ListHan Solo and the Princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman609 0 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Force ThemeRaiders MarchHedwigs ThemeHarry's Wonderous WorldImperial MarchAnakin's ThemeSuperman MarchJurassic Park ThemePrayer for PeaceHan and the Princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm taking my time to come up with my 10 all-time greatest.I'm up to 4 now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,754 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I didn't realise entire tracks qualified, so I'm changing one of my selections - HWW in place of Hedwig's theme - much more coherence as a piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Tracks shouldn't count, it should just be themes. Harry's Wonderous World shouldn't count. Pick one of the themes in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yeah, I don't even think that Superman should count as one theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,754 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Meh, I'll go choose some actual themes then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yeah, I don't even think that Superman should count as one theme.Right, you should specify "Superman Fanfare", "Superman March", or "Love Theme From Superman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 So, here are my top ten: 1) Star Wars Main Title/Luke's Theme 2) Jurassic Park Island Theme 3) The Force Theme 4) Imperial March 5) Raider's March 6) Fawke's the Phoenix 7) Hedwig's Theme 8) Hook Flying Theme 9) Emperor's Theme10) JFK Main Theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,064 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm taking my time to come up with my 10 all-time greatest.I'm up to 4 now...I just went with my gut reaction. If I were to stop and think about it I could come up with a different top 10 list today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 1) Luke's Theme from Star Wars2) The Force Theme from Star Wars3) The Imperial March from The Empire Strikes Back4) The Raiders March from Raiders Of The Lost Ark5) The Flying Theme from ET6) Neverland Theme from Hook7) Hook's Theme from Hook8) The Island Theme from Jurassic Park9) Hedwig's Theme from Harry Potter and the Philorcer's Stone10) Gryffindor Theme from Harry Potter and the Philorcer's StoneBut that leaves out so many....I'd love to fit Han Solo and the Princess and The Ark Theme in there but what do I take out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Up to 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 All components of the Superman March will count as one theme. The love theme is a seperate theme. I'm interpreting Harry's Wonderous World entries to mean Harry's theme, which would also include the "friendship" theme as it's just a variation on the same theme. So I have spoken, so it shall be. The themes I need to make sure people are making distinctions on are Jurassic Park, if you're voting for the actual theme from Jurassic Park or the island fanfare theme. So far all the entries have been clear on this as far as I can tell.And if you edit your list please let me know either via post or PM what you've changed (as rich did earlier). I'm adding these up as they're posted so it'll be less work later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I edited my post to specify which "Jurassic Park" theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 8) Hook Main ThemeI need clarification here please. Are you referring to the Prologue theme (first theme heard in Prologue), the Peter/Flying fanfare (later in Prologue, the end of Remembering Childhood), Capt. Hook's main theme (Presenting the Hook, Smee's Plan), or the Neverland theme (end of Flight to Neverland)?Gotta love Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 8) Hook Main ThemeI need clarification here please. Are you referring to the Prologue theme (first theme heard in Prologue), the Peter/Flying fanfare (later in Prologue, the end of Remembering Childhood), or Capt. Hook's main theme (Presenting the Hook, Smee's Plan)?This just goes to show what an awful name Hook was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 the theme that opens the End Credits (Part 2 of Flight to NeverLand concert Version)...what theme is that? I consider it the "main theme" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I thought it was the "Neverland Theme." It made my top 10 list, as posted earlier in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I thought the Neverland theme was the one in "Exit music" (unused cue,Concorde boot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 The Neverland theme is played in virtually every cue in the score. It's the big one at the end of Flight to Neverland, and it's used as a theme for old Wendy at the start of the score. You're right, it could be that one too. I added it to the list. Whew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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