Delorean90 42 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I just love how the rejection of bombast is a sign of maturation. Good to know.-Ben, who will gladly crank up Batman and bask in his immaturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 It is not so much the bombast, it is the way in which the bombast is presented. Keep in mind that I like Batman very much, but it is obvious to me that Danny Elfman was still "wet behind the ears" when he wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 But I mean, it's Star Wars. Schindler's List on the other hand, that's a tear-jerker.Well, honestly, I could never imagine crying because of any film score, so I'm one to talk...my emotions just don't express themselves that way. But still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 It's a great theme, but I think it's the weakest of the SW romantic themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Goldenthal's Final Fantasy is definately an enjoyable score, but I'll always wish Uematsu had gotten a crack at it.According to Uematsu himself, during an informal confersation with Sakaguchi he was offered to write that score, but he didn't take it seriously, because at that very moment Sakaguchi was... drunk. Since he didn't respond, Sakaguchi didn't force his name anymore and Goldenthal was hired instead.Oh my god the tragedies spawned by the abuse of alcohol! I had never heard that story before. Depressing, but funny.I wouldn't call it depressing. While I would also loved to have heard Uematsu's crack at it, Goldenthal produced such an excellent score himself that complaining about it is like wishing Goldsmith did Superman instead of Williams. Uematsu's score for the abysmal Advent Children was nearly as dysfunctional as the movie itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 But I mean, it's Star Wars. Schindler's List on the other hand, that's a tear-jerker.The film maybe. But do you not believe that great music can elicit tears of joy? I believe that is what he refers to, and I too have experienced it with that piece, amongst others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 But I mean, it's Star Wars. Schindler's List on the other hand, that's a tear-jerker.Well, honestly, I could never imagine crying because of any film score, so I'm one to talk...my emotions just don't express themselves that way. But still. I've never cried from a film score either. I've gotten teary-eyed from The Thin Red Line and Tears Of The Sun, and probably Schindler's List. Although honestly that's probably just because of the mood I was in, because I've listened to them before without that type of emotional response. But I mean, it's Star Wars. Schindler's List on the other hand, that's a tear-jerker.The film maybe. But do you not believe that great music can elicit tears of joy? I believe that is what he refers to, and I too have experienced it with that piece, amongst others.Ah, the tears of joy. Forgot about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 But I mean, it's Star Wars. Schindler's List on the other hand, that's a tear-jerker.The film maybe. But do you not believe that great music can elicit tears of joy? I believe that is what he refers to, and I too have experienced it with that piece, amongst others.Thank you for clarifying for me, that is exactly what I meant. I find it is rather common with John Williams' music, more so than any other composer I have ever listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 The Da Vinci Code by Hans ZimmerPerfume by Tykwer, Klimek and HeilMerchant of Venice by Jocelyn PookKing Kong by James Newton HowardLust, Caution by Alexandre Desplat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Merchant of Venice by Jocelyn PookHow is this? I never knew she composed. I have her album, Untold Things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Merchant of Venice is very eclectic with a lot of vocal work from soloists and ensemble and period instruments, capturing both the lyricism of the story and also its time period and Venetian culture of palaces and also some aspects of the Jewish culture that represent Shylock's world.The music is performed by a relatively small ensemble with emphasis on period instruments (in the liner notes the composer tells how she researched the period music for the score quite extensively) and it is mainly delicate and lyrical and mood music with small thematic hints here and there to tie it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Young Sherlock Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Merchant of Venice by Jocelyn PookHow is this? I never knew she composed. I have her album, Untold Things.She also composed a couple of cues for Eyes Wide Shut. I liked those.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 It's a great theme, but I think it's the weakest of the SW romantic themes. Indeed. It's the strongest by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Goldenthal's Final Fantasy is definately an enjoyable score, but I'll always wish Uematsu had gotten a crack at it.According to Uematsu himself, during an informal confersation with Sakaguchi he was offered to write that score, but he didn't take it seriously, because at that very moment Sakaguchi was... drunk. Since he didn't respond, Sakaguchi didn't force his name anymore and Goldenthal was hired instead.Oh my god the tragedies spawned by the abuse of alcohol! I had never heard that story before. Depressing, but funny.I wouldn't call it depressing. While I would also loved to have heard Uematsu's crack at it, Goldenthal produced such an excellent score himself that complaining about it is like wishing Goldsmith did Superman instead of Williams. Uematsu's score for the abysmal Advent Children was nearly as dysfunctional as the movie itself.The score was good. The movie was... not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Advent Children is a pretty schizophrenic score. When Uematsu brings in the full orchestra it's with great results: Divinity, Cloud Smiles, and the wonderful end credits suite with great new renditions of the FF VII main theme, Aeris' theme, and the main FF theme. But he was full in his Black Mages stage at that point, and I have no interest in hard rock/heavy metal/whatever versions of old action cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Advent Children is a pretty schizophrenic score. When Uematsu brings in the full orchestra it's with great results: Divinity, Cloud Smiles, and the wonderful end credits suite with great new renditions of the FF VII main theme, Aeris' theme, and the main FF theme. But he was full in his Black Mages stage at that point, and I have no interest in hard rock versions of old action cues.I am not hard rock fan either, but his ability to merge all that genres (symphonic, hard rock and techno) into one coherent (IMO) score is commendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 About as coherent as it could be given the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 About as coherent as it could be given the movie. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I was disappointed with the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Just about to finish up the complete score for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I'm currently on the track "A Good Start" and I've always found this score to be enjoyable from beginning to end. Hopefully one day we are able to get a true complete version of it from one of the labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Half-Arsed PrinceOne of the most boring scores I've ever heard. OOTP was alright with some really good cues, but this is so bland, I couldn't even call it ambiance. Brilliantly awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I have to agree with Drax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Half-Arsed PrinceOne of the most boring scores I've ever heard. OOTP was alright with some really good cues, but this is so bland, I couldn't even call it ambiance. Brilliantly awful.I think it's actually better than the first one (I mean Hooper's first one). "In Noctem" and "Ron's Victory" are better than anything from OotP . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 In Harm's Way by Jerry Goldsmith. For this being his very first score it sure was a fun listen from beginning to end. It really didn't sound like Goldsmith, all though Henry commented to me on AIM that it doesn't really sound like him because he was just starting out and still finding his own unique sound. That I agree with 100%.I will say I bought this album basically blind. Ya I listened to the sound clips before I purchased it but having never seen the film (before my time obviously) I am glad I bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 In Harm's Way by Jerry Goldsmith. For this being his very first score it sure was a fun listen from beginning to end. It really didn't sound like Goldsmith, all though Henry commented to me on AIM that it doesn't really sound like him because he was just starting out and still finding his own unique sound. That I agree with 100%.I will say I bought this album basically blind. Ya I listened to the sound clips before I purchased it but having never seen the film (before my time obviously) I am glad I bought it.This wasn't Goldsmith's first score. He had 40 scores credited to him by the time he composed this one, and that includes TV.This is definately a Goldsmith score, his "finger" prints are all over the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Well, this is not on CD but I really enjoyed Julian Nott's Wallace and Gromit: A Matter of Loaf and Death. Great score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Guns For San Sebastian by Ennio Morricone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Godzilla vs. Destroyah (2-CD) by Akira Ifukube.I look at this score like it's the final collaboration between members of a phenomenal team, only it's composer and leading character. Ifukube and Godzilla go together like Williams and Indiana Jones, Elfman and Batman, Barry and Bond. This score has enough dramatic depth as you'd want in a Godzilla score, although overall, I think variety is lacking compared to his previous efforts on Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992) and Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla (1993), but I can only attribute that to an extremely tight deadline to get the music locked in the film. It references the Oxygen Destroyer music from the 1954 original appropriately, and develops that in subtle ways. Enough words can't be said about "Requiem", what a phenomenal piece of music, and a keen ear can hear Godzilla's theme expressed in a vastly different manner. Music is especially important in these films because the monsters don't have voice to speak with, so Ifukube and any other composer involved express their emotion on screen in place of their voice.My only major complaint about this 2-CD "complete score", presented in "recording session" form, is that it doesn't have that really cool John Carpenter-style sonic rumble that's heard in the scene where one of the smaller Destroyah creatures chases the reporter into a police car. It was simple, but it had such menace to it. I wonder if Toho actually did just lift it from a Carpenter film or something similar since it's left off the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 A.I. (Two Disk for the first time)Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 A.I. (Two Disk for the first time)Incredible.Yeah, incredibly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Non-sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Non-sense!Sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The 2-CD set? Meh.The 2-CD set in chronological order? Yeh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I guess I will give that a try, then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Non-sense!Sense!LOL! Wayne's World flashbacks there!!!!Yes A.I. in chronological order is the way to go. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleo 63 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Natty Gann finally arrived, and it was worth the waiting. Great score! And who would have thought that the theme of Land before Time was actually almost a rip-off from this score (It's been a long time since I've seen the movie, long before I paid too much attention to the music in detail)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 RatatouilleBack to the Future 2Planet of the ApesAnd a couple of Ringo albums since it was his birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 A.I. (Two Disk for the first time)Incredible.Yeah, incredibly boring.Uncool bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 It is a bit dull, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Yes, I used to think that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The recent Superman poll got me interested in the score again, so I listened to that. It's awesome. "Leaving Home" has become my favorite track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 This is definately a Goldsmith score, his "finger" prints are all over the score.True. And not just the 60s TV Goldsmith, which I often find a bit difficult to listen to. The Rock sounds like classic 70s Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The recent Superman poll got me interested in the score again, so I listened to that. It's awesome. "Leaving Home" has become my favorite track.My favorite track as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 PUBLIC ENEMIESAwesome. I love how impeccable Mann's tastes usually are regarding song placement alongside score. It's a bit tricky working with the score when I have no idea what it's scoring, but it has a lovely sense of introspection. Plus, Billie Holiday is never bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 The complete score for Dinosaur. In my opinion it's one of James Newton Howard's finest scores. I always enjoy listening to it from beginning to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Papillon, the extended (15-track-long) version. P E R F E C T. The only score I could compare it to, in terms of it's dramatic power and overwhelming beauty, is Schindler's List. Goldsmith at his finest and the music that makes life worth living for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanman 0 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Jerry Goldsmith: The Secret of NIMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Magnolia by Jon BrionAbsolutely wonderful! Paul Thomas Anderson might be one of the few directors who actually has any taste in music. I remember liking it in the film, but it is the first time I have a chance to listen to the album. And it's a real treat. It kind of reminds me of Alexandre Desplat, modern Danny Elfman and, rather bizzarely, Schindler's List (in its rhythmic moments). Recommended! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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