indy4 155 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 It had a few flaws, but I love it.It's not as good as the first three, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Very true. One cannot be out of his mind if he does not have one in the first place KarolNot to mention the fact that he was pretty much unaffected by the pull of Earth's gravity!I hate having to point out that I made two jokes in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 National Treasure 2 is not a good movie, but I liked it.You weren't the one Gerrard attacked, were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 National Treasure 2 is not a good movie, but I liked it.You weren't the one Gerrard attacked, were you?Lisa Gerrard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Not unless she's suddenly started playing in central midfield for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Ah, I've just got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 It had a few flaws, but I love it.Fanboy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 His name is indy4. Under the circumstances, calling him fanboy is a little redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 His name is indy4. Under the circumstances, calling him fanboy is a little redundant.That's why he won't be able to deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 And besides, it's still funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 His name is indy4. Under the circumstances, calling him fanboy is a little redundant.That's why he won't be able to deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Hmm, I hesitate to say "I didn't like it," because parts of it were all right. But then again, the more I've thought about it since seeing the film, there are a lot of things that I find wrong with it.I think I'll follow Marc's lead and vote for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Who actually liked Indy 4 the film?Masochists.NeilWhat can i say?Slap me. Oh yes! I LOVED IT .The monkeys were not neccessary though. *Slap* OH YESSS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Had someone taken this same plot, same "A" production values, a thematic score composed by JNH or Michael Giacchino, the same script but took out the Indy references and made it for another aging action hero, the entire board (with an exception of a few members) would have slammed this film as crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 But oh man that score would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 not if Giacchino did it, he's yet to prove he's worthy of the next John williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Had someone taken this same plot, same "A" production values, a thematic score composed by JNH or Michael Giacchino, the same script but took out the Indy references and made it for another aging action hero, the entire board (with an exception of a few members) would have slammed this film as crap.Do the same with Raiders. Even just change Ford to Tom Selleck and you could have a similar reaction.Made it a tom selleck movie, from an awful director and scored by Goldsmith.It would be just remembered for the great score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I'd love to see parallel universe RAIDERS, with Tom Selleck. I actually think he would have been great in the role (however, this is coming from a huge fan of MAGNUM, PI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 My point is, take away Ford, Spielberg, Lucas and Williams and see how much love the film would get.If those names weren't attached then most here would view it as the piece of poo it actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 But the film touches on an area of nostalgia that would not be there if not for them. And that's why there's still love for it, despite it's inadequacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 If I want to relive the memories I'll pop the first 3 films in the DVD player. I get a sense of nostalgia thinking about going to see Raiders and the way it was presented; lobby cards, the friends I went with, the theatre I saw it in etc etc.But crap is crap, there's no nostalgia in the actual films. People get confused about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 But the film touches on an area of nostalgia that would not be there if not for them. And that's why there's still love for it, despite it's inadequacies.Well said. Although I hated when I saw it in cinema, I just had to buy the dvd (which I did today ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 If I want to relive the memories I'll pop the first 3 films in the DVD player. I get a sense of nostalgia thinking about going to see Raiders and the way it was presented; lobby cards, the friends I went with, the theatre I saw it in etc etc.But crap is crap, there's no nostalgia in the actual films. People get confused about that. Oh, sure there is. That statement is just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 No, not for me. Nostalgia is thinking about TV channels that used show monster movies every Friday and how my grandmother sat with me when I watched Godzilla for the first time when I was 6. Or how the theatres were decorated with lobby cards and posters when I went and saw TESB. Or hanging out with friends in line for 3 hours to see the very first showing of ROTJ. The films don't carry any real nostalgia because I can watch them anytime I want, and some of them aren't that good as they were when I was a kid.It's the moments around the films, not the movies themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Watching the films brings back the sensations of watching them as a kid, particularly the Indy films. Remembering the crappy VHS of Last Crusade or having to cover my eyes for the heart scene in Temple of Doom (as just two examples). I remember those every time. And when Marion reappeared in the last film- I was on cloud nine for a few seconds. Brought back so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,053 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 It's the moments around the films, not the movies themselves.So... you do admit Star Wars is a bad film? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 My point is, take away Ford, Spielberg, Lucas and Williams and see how much love the film would get.If those names weren't attached then most here would view it as the piece of poo it actually is.Do i have to repeat it also works for the original three?Watching the films brings back the sensations of watching them as a kid, particularly the Indy films. Remembering the crappy VHS of Last Crusade or having to cover my eyes for the heart scene in Temple of Doom (as just two examples). I remember those every time. And when Marion reappeared in the last film- I was on cloud nine for a few seconds. Brought back so much.that is nostalgia, from my certain point of view too.A view that conflicts with Mark's.Nevertheless nostalgia is a feeling you 'feel' when something remembers you of past and hapier, better times. Be it a revisiting of the same item or a similar one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 No, you're wrong. If the same production values and story were done the same way as Raiders & TOD you would have still have 2 damn good films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I liked it, but it could have been much, much better. The best scenes in the movie were Indy and Mutt in the diner, motorcycle chase, the cemetery and jungle chase. A lot of action scenes were similar to Temple Of Doom in that they were fake. The overlong climax is really where it all starts to fall apart for me. It's a bunch of standing around is caves. The aliens have no clear motive, it's unclear what happens to Agent Spalko and why, the temple collapsing into a UFO is completely confusing and the whole Crystal Skull thing is not explained at all, nor can I even infer WTF I just witnessed. The cheesy wedding is lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 No, you're wrong. If the same production values and story were done the same way as Raiders & TOD you would have still have 2 damn good films.Sorry, that went in the same package as Lucas and Spielbreg brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I liked it, but it's not a classic.It's not something I'd watch again many years from now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 A lot of action scenes were similar to Temple Of Doom in that they were fake.How do you mean fake, exactly?it's unclear what happens to Agent Spalko and why She asks for the knowledge the alien has, he gives it to her, her brain can't take it and she waporises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Jungle chase reminded me of the mine cart scene it looked like a lot of rear projection matte effects. The river scene reminded me of the fake raft scene with the rear projection matte effects. Except KOTCS had more modern effects.ROTLA's truck chase I believe had one FX shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Just want to mention that The desert chase is crap on the novel. If it had been like it is there, Williams would have not composed such great music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 "Like it" is too strong word but I would say I HATED it.I even bought it on Blu-Ray giving it a second chance(and for the extras!) but NO!!Despite of the money they put on it and the "talent" , only word I can find is DISAPPOINTMENT. One star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 not if Giacchino did it, he's yet to prove he's worthy of the next John williamsCalling him the next John Williams would be selling him short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,053 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think he started to move away from that after second MOH.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 not if Giacchino did it, he's yet to prove he's worthy of the next John williamsCalling him the next John Williams would be selling him short.Selling him short? That would be a huge compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 This was a great "Indiana Jones" movie. As such, if you didn't like it, well, there is simply no talking to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 It f*ckin' sucks, it suckin' f*cks, it's a piece of sh*t... and I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Yeah, I liked it. It's not perfect, but certainly a great popcorn flick, and worthy of the series. And it's a fun rewatch. Great opening sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Yes, while still acknowledging it's flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 not if Giacchino did it, he's yet to prove he's worthy of the next John williamsCalling him the next John Williams would be selling him short.Selling him short? That would be a huge compliment.We already have John Williams. I am looking forward to Michael Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It's only a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It f*ckin' sucks, it suckin' f*cks, it's a piece of sh*t... and I don't like it. (for the reference if not for the sentiment )Giacchino will not be the next John Williams, he'll be Michael Giacchino. And he's done plenty enough to prove to me that he can be the Next Big Thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 The Angry Steven Spielberg Nerd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Henry Buck- The Angry Film Score Nerd. Internet gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 With amateur actors playing the guest roles of film composers. Imagine the Nerd taking a crap in Hans Zimmer's face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Or beating up Lucas and Ben Burtt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now