Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I love the end credits to ESB, but before them I would choose the End Credits to Star Wars, Raiders, ToD, LC and Jurassic Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,555 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 The Finale and End Credits (of ESB) combined are like the best 6 minutes of film scoring ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 The Finale and End Credits (of ESB) combined are like the best 6 minutes of film scoring everexcept for the even better minutes at the end of ET, or Star Wars, or Temple of Doom, or Superman, or Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 The Finale and End Credits (of ESB) combined are like the best 6 minutes of film scoring everI dunno about a six minutes rule, but I'd say the opening credits of Superman are superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I love SUPERMAN, but ESB really does take it one step further for myself. I don't think I've even heard the end credits to HP&TPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I don't think I've even heard the end credits to HP&TPS.You should, they're very good. But they're hardly what I would call vintage Williams. ESB knocks any Williams H. Potter score into the middle of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I disagree, HP and the Sorcerer's Stone holds up quite well. The end credits are terrific, and that last minute is unbelievable. Rebel Fleet is lovely, I think its grand, but its not Throne Room, or Hedwigs Theme, The Love Theme from Superman, hell even the Main title to Towering Inferno good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hmmm, I wish Raiders March had more votes. I'm not saying it's better, but I think this race should be closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 that last minute is unbelievable.Absolutely. But as a none HP fan (I like, but ultimately, I'm indifferent) I am perhaps biased towards everything pre-Harry Potter, where Williams is concerned. I do however appreciate the magic it has become for many fans of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 that last minute is unbelievable.Absolutely. But as a none HP fan (I like, but ultimately I'm indifferent) I am perhaps biased towards everything pre Harry Potter, where Williams is concerned. I do however appreciate the magic it has become for many fans of the score.I'm the same way. The closest I've come to being a "HP Fan" is that I quite liked POA the book. I've tried to sit through the films (I went to the cinema for the first one) but I just don't find anything to interest me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 The score to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone needs to be released in full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 The score to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone needs to be released in full.Yes. As well as PoA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,555 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I don't think I've even heard the end credits to HP&TPS.The end credits are simply "Harry's Wondrous World" followed by "Hedwig's Theme". Tracks 2 and 19 of the OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,099 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 All the above end credits are very, very, very good. I think those of us who are sane Williams fans can agree on that. I'm not gonna waste my time trying to ascertain which one is better than all the others. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thanks for the kind words all (including Joe, who's sense of humor I certainly get and appreciate). There actually wasn't a whole lot of pure work involved, and I enjoy doing things like this. It's been fun, and I'm actually wanting to do more as long as we all don't get polled out. I think Ray had it worse than me putting together those wonderful logos for all the themes.John- who agrees that we need a complete SS ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Indeed. This was fun. Thanks John. (Especially considering my favorite theme came out victorious.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I think Raiders is just riding the wave of Indy's return to the public eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Or it's just reminded people of how good it really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yes, ever since I first started tallying everything up I thought the Indy box was influincing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yes, thank you John! This has been very fun. I love the end credits to ESB, but before them I would choose the End Credits to Star Wars, Raiders, ToD, LC and Jurassic Park.I'm madly in love with Last Crusade (score and film), but there isn't too much new music in the LC end credits. Isn't most of it tracked from other bits of the score.The score to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone needs to be released in full.Who's the obsessive film score fan now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I'm madly in love with Last Crusade (score and film), but there isn't too much new music in the LC end credits. Isn't most of it tracked from other bits of the score.Probably is, but even as an edited suite of music I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 As i consider me a Star Wars Fan i have to go with The Force ThemeIt's by the way the most developed William's theme, Raider's march had "only" 4 films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 741 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 RAIDERS MARCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 So the Force Theme is the most popular theme among jwfan members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I said in the very beginning it would win, but I think we all knew it would.There are tons of themes I would put above Raiders March, but probably because I'm just tired of hearing it so much lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Less than 24 hours left. Get your vote in before it's called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 The winner and official Grand Champion of the first ever JWFan Thematic Tournament, by a 28-15 margin:Thank you again to all who participated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 It was rigged.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hurray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,099 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Not a huge surprise. Congrats to the Force theme, which surely ranks among John Williams' greatest themes, regardless of whether or not one thinks it takes the top spot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 While it wasn't even in my original list, it is a fantastic theme. Congratulations, Force Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 As promised, here's the full results from the nominations phase. There were 31 total ballots:The Top 121. The Raiders March- 19 votes (61.3%)2. The Force theme- 18 (58.1%)3. The Imperial March- 17 (54.8%)4. Hedwig's Theme-14 (45.2%)5. Superman March- 12 (38.7%)6. Star Wars main theme- 11 (35.9%)7. Jurrasic Park main theme and ET Flying theme- 9 (29%)9. A Window to the Past, Han Solo and the Princess, and the Ark theme- 8 (25.8%)11. Superman love theme and Slave Children's theme- 7 (22.6%)Just MissedJurassic Park Island Fanfare and Schindler's List- 6 (19.4%)Anakin's theme, Across the Stars, and Leia's theme- 5 (16.1%)Monica's theme, Neverland theme, Fawkes' theme, Seven Years in Tibet, Harry's theme (Harry's Wondrous World), and the Grail theme- 4 (12.9%)The Three Vote (9.7%) GroupYoda's themeHook flying themeBorn on the 4th of JulySomewhere in My MemoryCapt. Hook's main theme (includes votes for Smee's Plan)RememberancesThe Blue Fairy themeCadillac of the SkiesThe Chairman's Waltz21 themes recieved 2 votes (6.5%). 39 themes recieved one vote (3.2%).Major (in my mind at least) themes that recieved zero votes:Death Star motifParade of the Ewoksall TPM themes other than Anakin's theme and Duel of the Fates (2 votes)Battle of the HeroesKrypton fanfare and Kryptonite themeall the Superman IV themesET and MeRaiders Nazi fanfareLove Theme from Temple of Doom/Willie's themeThe Chamber of Secretsall Indy 4 themes except Call of the Crystal (1 vote)DraculaThe Patriot main theme (the love theme got 2 votes)nothing from War of the Worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I'm surprised that "Chamber of Secrets" got not votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,555 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 No graphical bracket of the final 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 I suppose that would be VP Barnsbury's department, if he cared to do one. I thought about it but I decided that the logos had more priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Here ya go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Brilliant!Nice to see I (and most) were right from the beginning.Now we just need to see where the Force theme figures in the greater scheme of things. Could it be THE greatest movie theme of all time? I think it probably is. Next to Driving Miss Daisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,555 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Awesome work Ray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Great work again Ray, thanks!OK, I know we may be polled out, but here's the ideas that I've been kicking around. I think these themes are the ones that usually make it to the tops of these lists and are the most popular because they're the best, but I'm sympathetic to those that commented that it was pretty much the same old, same old. So, I'm thinking of:1. Another tournament with simply the 12 themes from this bracket eliminated. We can do new nominations, or I can use the old ones. Slave Children through the 4 vote group is an even 12.ORb. This is the radical idea. A new tournament, with a round of nominations and all, with ALL the themes from ALL the following scores ineligible: all Star Wars, all Indy, all Potter, all JP, Superman, and ET. I'm inclined to keep Hook, Schindler's List, and Jaws since they weren't represented in the last bracket.And if we want to do another one I'm certainly willing to hear ideas on the structure of the tournament itself.(There's a subtle Doctor Who reference in this post for those in the know. Can you find it? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Is it the "1, b" thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Is it the "1, b" thing?Yes, 10 points to Mr. Mod! I didn't think you even knew what Who was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Here ya go!very nice, did you do that in Visio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Thanks! No, I used PhotoShop.And John, I like the second idea best. Spread the wealth and give the little guys a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 "Orca Theme" for the win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 My money's on Anne Lively's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Brilliant!Nice to see I (and most) were right from the beginning.Now we just need to see where the Force theme figures in the greater scheme of things. Could it be THE greatest movie theme of all time? I think it probably is. Next to Driving Miss Daisy.It must be well liked if it can take down the Raiders March amidst the aftershock of the Indy Mania. Having said that, it didn't even make my original nomination list.Nice work, Ray!John, I really like both ideas you had. The only problem with the second is that there are plenty of unpopular themes from the scores listed, so it would be sort of unfair to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Nice job Ray.As far as another contest goes it sure would be nice to see some other derserving themes instead of the usual predictable results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah, I agree with Ray and Mark, the second option is more appealing to me. But it is a bit extreme, indy4 has a point that there are lots of unheralded themes from popular scores. So I've been searching for a middle way, and I think I have it.3., or c. All themes that recieved 3 or more votes in the last nominations round are ineligible. I'll put the list in the first post of a new tournament thread. That'll knock out some of Hook, Schindler's List, AI, and a few others as well, but it'll give some of the lesser known themes from the bigger scores a chance too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,783 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I'd go for any contest where basically all franchises are banned. That knocks out SW, Indy, Jurassic, Home Alone, and Potter.In other words, finding the best 'standalone' and undeveloped theme, and there are zillions of them.It's nice the Force Theme won this, but I do have a 'but it's from Star Wars... what a surprise' feeling deep down <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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