Joe Brausam 215 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I don't see what the problem is with the guessing games. Take Intrada for example, you already know they have releases every 2 weeks, so you don't need to participate in the guessing games if you don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 You know, you always see composers like Bernstein draw praise for "scoring it straight." I get it -- the counterpoint between the silliness of the on-screen action and seriousness of the score only adds to the comedy -- but it seems to me that it's also something of a cop-out. Comedy, after all, is notoriously difficult to score. I mean, how many true comedy scores do you see in that list published by The Hollywood Reporter (let alone the sci-fi/action/adventure-centric lists of the average film score fan)? Only a handful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Comedies don't necessarily need musical score to help flesh out the emotions, since it's mostly straight in your face. I like the serious score approach to a comedy, but only if it's appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Comedies don't necessarily need musical score to help flesh out the emotions, since it's mostly straight in your face. I like the serious score approach to a comedy, but only if it's appropriate.But you also wonder how many dramas "need musical score to help flesh out the emotions." I always turn to The China Syndrome as the perfect example. The factual stumbles of the film aside, it's a darn good thriller-drama, tense, and by the end, deeply emotional. And it accomplishes it all without a note of orchestral score. I think dramatic scoring can be more superfluous than we are often willing to consider.Regardless, I do think it's safe to say there are lot of comedy scores out there that are greatly underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think Airplane! is one score where it really was totally right for it, but I see your point. Perhaps the best true comedy score I've heard is Broughton's Honey, I Blew Up the Kid. It's zany, wildly creative, and a load of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think Danny Elfman had a nice approach to comedies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Yes, but Pee-Wee's Big Adventure is a far cry from a serious score. It's a wild and zany score for a wild and zany score. The clown music still gives my sister the willys.I guess with comedies, you can have it a few ways. You can have a score that doesn't take itself seriously. You can have a serious E. Bernstein-like score. Or you can drop the score entirely and go with songs. A lot of comedies seem to go light on the score and just offer a lot of songs. Others like Heavy Metal and Animal House had it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 There's a Naked Gun soundtrack?!?!? Holy hell, I gotta track down that baby! Ira Newborn's scores for all 3 are fantastic...Love the rendition of the love theme at the end of the third film, surprisingly heartwarming stuff. Beautiful strings section... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 You know, you always see composers like Bernstein draw praise for "scoring it straight." I get it -- the counterpoint between the silliness of the on-screen action and seriousness of the score only adds to the comedy -- but it seems to me that it's also something of a cop-out. Comedy, after all, is notoriously difficult to score. I mean, how many true comedy scores do you see in that list published by The Hollywood Reporter (let alone the sci-fi/action/adventure-centric lists of the average film score fan)? Only a handful.I can't speak for anything else, but I think AIRPLANE! works so well because it's all played straight, from the acting to the music. Comedies where the characters seem in on the joke never seem that funny at all, and sometimes smug, but AIRPLANE! is perfect because so much of it is not played like a comedy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 You know, you always see composers like Bernstein draw praise for "scoring it straight." I get it -- the counterpoint between the silliness of the on-screen action and seriousness of the score only adds to the comedy -- but it seems to me that it's also something of a cop-out. Comedy, after all, is notoriously difficult to score. I mean, how many true comedy scores do you see in that list published by The Hollywood Reporter (let alone the sci-fi/action/adventure-centric lists of the average film score fan)? Only a handful.I can't speak for anything else, but I think AIRPLANE! works so well because it's all played straight, from the acting to the music. Comedies where the characters seem in on the joke never seem that funny at all, and sometimes smug, but AIRPLANE! is perfect because so much of it is not played like a comedy at all.Yeah, my statement wasn't directed at Bernstein's Airplane! score in particular but rather the approach in general. I think playing it straight is a valid approach; when I say "cop-out" I don't mean literally the composer is shrinking from his duty but that from a compositional standpoint it is arguable they are taking an easier approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I picked a helluva week to quit spending money on film scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'm buy... I'm wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Mr. Spendlove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying about Debt and Buy All the Upcoming Paramount Releases No Matter What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 We have clearance, Clarence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 For those interested in the Naked Gun CD, it appears to be out of print. I've seen copies in stores like Barnes & Noble. SAE has one listed for $8.95:http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=9624You know, you always see composers like Bernstein draw praise for "scoring it straight." I get it -- the counterpoint between the silliness of the on-screen action and seriousness of the score only adds to the comedy -- but it seems to me that it's also something of a cop-out. Comedy, after all, is notoriously difficult to score. I mean, how many true comedy scores do you see in that list published by The Hollywood Reporter (let alone the sci-fi/action/adventure-centric lists of the average film score fan)? Only a handful.It might have something to do with the style of the film being made. Airplane!, Top Secret and the Naked Gun are filmed in a way where a more serious styled score works as opposed to a comical one. There's not a whole lot of Mickey mousing going on in them. There are a few musical jokes; the Jaws them in Top Secret & Airplane!Another example might be 1941, Williams has some fun with the music but listening to the score on it's own you might think it actually belonged in regular WWII film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 What's our vector, Victor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Another example might be 1941, Williams has some fun with the music but listening to the score on it's own you might think it actually belonged in regular WWII film.1941 is too happy to be a serious war score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Roger.What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I think you're the greatest, but my dad says you don't work hard enough on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 The hell I don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Have you ever seen a grown man naked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Have you ever been in a Turkish prison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?Yes. It's a lot like MIDNIGHT EXPRESS, only not as hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Doctor: How soon can we land?Oeveur: I can't tellDoctor: You can tell me. I'm a doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Oh I forgot to add one thing to this announcement.*squeeeeeeefarttttttttt* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 This can now be ordered from movie music:http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/airplane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 "I like my coffee black. Like my men." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 This can now be ordered from movie music:http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/airplaneIs it available to actually pre-order, or is it just the announcement page? There is no Add to Cart link, just a Coming Soon note. I will so buy this as soon as it's available to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 Oh, poop. I guess I jumped the gun! My bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted May 6, 2009 Share Posted May 6, 2009 "Johnny, how about some coffee""No thanks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Just a reminder, tomorrow at 12:00pm Pacific time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Well I won't be there to order right away, but I'm sure they can wait a half hour for me. I haven't been so excited for a soundtrack release since El Cid!BTW, thanks for the CD Mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Ordered. Got nervy for a second after the pre-site failed to load (had to clear my cache). Never know how quickly something like this is gonna go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I want this but can't think of anything else to buy to get the $1 shipping from MovieMusic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,375 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I ordered Airplane!, Mars Attacks Expanded, and Something Wicked This Way Comes from moviemusic to get the $1 shippingWas going to get Monsignor with the other two before MA! was announcedEDIT: Crap! LLL is now offering MA for $14.95 if ordered alongside Airplane!http://www.lalalandrecords.com/Airplane.htmlalso at that link: Soundclips!!EDIT2: Well, LLL charges $5 shipping, so its essentially a wash. Guess I'll keep my order with MM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I want to get a Steiner King Kong alongside Airplane. Which disc should I buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I want to get a Steiner King Kong alongside Airplane. Which disc should I buy?Are they still selling the Southern Cross one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Sounds good, but does anyone else think that the track titles are rather lame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Actually, the only one at MovieMusic is this one:http://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/kingkong-nxsAnd it's unavailable. SAE it is, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Is that the Stromberg one? That one is pretty good as well.I am kind of sad that there is no track named 'What A Pisser.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Is that the Stromberg one? That one is pretty good as well.I am kind of sad that there is no track named 'What A Pisser.'KISS Off instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Sounds good, but does anyone else think that the track titles are rather lame? Doesn't bother me. The music is the most important thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Is that the Stromberg one? That one is pretty good as well.I am kind of sad that there is no track named 'What A Pisser.'KISS Off instead. EDIT - We can always change them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Sounds good, but does anyone else think that the track titles are rather lame? You don't know much about this film, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 So Bernstein played this score straight? Seriously? It sounds really goofy. It's nice, but not something that would send shivers down my spine. "Oh, wow, 'From Here to There' is so romantic. I want that playing when I propose to my girlfriend!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 So Bernstein played this score straight? Seriously? It sounds really goofy. It's nice, but not something that would send shivers down my spine. "Oh, wow, 'From Here to There' is so romantic. I want that playing when I propose to my girlfriend!"I think that's why though. He plays it just the right side of straight, so it sounds goofy without being too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 I only bought Airplane! from MM. They don't have any of the King Kongs, and while SAE does, I'll just wait a few weeks before I buy it. I haven't seen the movie in a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Sounds good, but does anyone else think that the track titles are rather lame? You don't know much about this film, do you?Yeah I do, I love it. Just thought some of the names could've been better that's all. I mean, what is Tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Probably just a short snippet of music, like to highlight the punchline of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 No, it's a musical term loosely used to describe a coda-like piece of music or a reprise. There's "Resolution" and then there's an end "tag" following it. I think these are Bernstein's original titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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