Elfman / Burton Box Set Coming.

[fommes 153]

Or "The 30th Anniversary: Six Years Later".

[indy4 155]

Or the 6th anniversary of the 30th anniversary.

[scallenger 483]

AICN has an exclusive clip featuring Tim and Danny talking about "Beetlejuice" from the set:

http://aintitcool.com/node/46950

[gkgyver 1,645]

Or the 6th anniversary of the 30th anniversary.

[indy4 155]

I wonder if "Alice's Theme (1st Recording)" is the theme without lyrics?

[Ollie 1,059]

An impressive set, however in looking at the material I think I'll skip this one. The pricing is affordable, I was thinking around the $329.00 to $399.00 range though. But given all the work and licensing that probably went into this set I can understand the pricing.

I really want Pee Wee's Big Adventure but most of these will probably see a single release somewhere down the line. And it seems the LaLaLand releases will and do have more music on them.

[Demondm810 399]

Yea, that's the problem with the set. You still have to buy LaLa Land's Batman, Batman Returns, and Mars Attacks! Releases to truly get complete scores. I decided to hold off. I am hoping down the line some will be available separately. The only ones I REALLY wanted were Alice and Pee-Wee.

[indy4 155]

Yup...it's a good thing I'm not too interested in any of those scores.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I just can't wait to drown in a plethora of awesome Nightmare Before Christmas tunes.

[fommes 153]

Yeah that's the thing: LaLaLand will release more expanded Elfman scores, but seeing as how it's Disney, do you guys think there's ever going to be an expanded Nightmare before Christmas apart from this set?

[scallenger 483]

I doubt it. It seems only Disney allows other labels like Intrada to release seemingly minor Disney classic scores. Natty Gann, Something Wicked This Way Comes, Honey I Shrunk The Kids... aside from being all Horner scores, they share in common that they are rather minor titles to the Disney name at this point. Nightmare however still has a very strong following, which means it has a very high price tag perhaps unobtainable for any soundtrack outlet. It would probably need a full-on big studio release like the Star Wars or Indiana Jones expanded editions from Sony and Concord... and now this big crazy box set. That's my theory, anyway.

[Demondm810 399]

I would agree. I'm legitimately shocked to see so much from Nightmare in the set. I also suspect the Nightmare music is the primary reason the set is so pricey.

[Jay 37,369]

I doubt it. It seems only Disney allows other labels like Intrada to release seemingly minor Disney classic scores. Natty Gann, Something Wicked This Way Comes, Honey I Shrunk The Kids... aside from being all Horner scores, they share in common that they are rather minor titles to the Disney name at this point. Nightmare however still has a very strong following, which means it has a very high price tag perhaps unobtainable for any soundtrack outlet. It would probably need a full-on big studio release like the Star Wars or Indiana Jones expanded editions from Sony and Concord... and now this big crazy box set. That's my theory, anyway.

They also have in common that they are live action, and never had a score release before. Somebody who works at one of the labels (I believe Roger from Intrada) said that Disney would only release animated scores on their own label,they wouldn't license their animated scores out to anybody. And they don't seem to be interested in doing expansions (live or animated) - either by doing it themselves or by licensing to an independent label

[scallenger 483]

Well that makes us extremely lucky to have this Elfman box set being released then. Seems not likely non-Elfman scores of animated or even live action Disney will ever get the same treatment, unless there is new management in the future who thinks differently. Well unless there are "unofficial" releases. Thank goodness this happened to Jerry Goldsmith's "Mulan"...

[Jay 37,369]

That was official though - it was an Academy Promo. Official, but not commercially available

[scallenger 483]

Oh, I see, well either way. hehe

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Jay, I think you should stop being so certain about a future release sans extras.

From an interview FSM conducted with Richard Kraft:

There are rumors about a scaled-down, CD-only version without the bonus material, or about selling all the discs as individual CDs. What can you tell us about that?

Warner Bros. Records is handling the sales, promotion and marketing on this and doing a fantastic job. I have heard of no plans for them to make anything other than the full Music Box including all the CDs, USB, book, DVD, box and zoetrope. I do know the deals we made with the various studios and record companies were for this Music Box configuration only. Every one of these films' Original Soundtrack is still in print from various companies. We were able to obtain the rights to expand and release them specifically because they were being coupled together as part of this specific overall package and not being released individually.

Read the full interview HERE.

[scallenger 483]

Well... in that case, unless they change their mind somehow or are able to loosen the rights a bit or pay more with the money they get from this run, then maybe them including that USB was more like a gesture.

"Hey, you were cool and rich enough to afford this set that we can't mass produce, so please, for the love of whatever, give this to everyone!"

[fommes 153]

As much as I appreciate all the hard work, all the effort, etc., and as much as I like Mr Kraft a lot for handling stuff like this (including message board posts and mails!) personally, one does get the feeling from this interview that there hasn't been given much thought to the actual fans. I mean, the box couldn't be better in any possible way, and I'm not really a socialist or something, but they might have considered toning down the unnecessary fanciness so that it might be even slightly affordable. If everyone is going to start taking pages out of Townson's booklet, this niche is going to self-destruct soon.

[Jay 37,369]

Damn.

[Andy 4,138]

As much as I appreciate all the hard work, all the effort, etc., and as much as I like Mr Kraft a lot for handling stuff like this (including message board posts and mails!) personally, one does get the feeling from this interview that there hasn't been given much thought to the actual fans. I mean, the box couldn't be better in any possible way, and I'm not really a socialist or something, but they might have considered toning down the unnecessary fanciness so that it might be even slightly affordable. If everyone is going to start taking pages out of Townson's booklet, this niche is going to self-destruct soon.

Yup.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

As much as I appreciate all the hard work, all the effort, etc., and as much as I like Mr Kraft a lot for handling stuff like this (including message board posts and mails!) personally, one does get the feeling from this interview that there hasn't been given much thought to the actual fans. I mean, the box couldn't be better in any possible way, and I'm not really a socialist or something, but they might have considered toning down the unnecessary fanciness so that it might be even slightly affordable. If everyone is going to start taking pages out of Townson's booklet, this niche is going to self-destruct soon.

I think a majority of the cost is due to all the licensing fees, and not the actual set like most people think. All of these scores are still in print, and several from different companies. Must have cost a fortune to get them all to work together. We have an EXPANDED score from a Disney ANIMATED film. No easy feat.

[fommes 153]

Yup.

Haha ok, I'm still overreacting about the prices of limited edition boxes recently. Blame Fitzpatrick's doom posts!

I think a majority of the cost is due to all the licensing fees, and not the actual set like most people think. All of these scores are still in print, and several from different companies. Must have cost a fortune to get them all to work together. We have an EXPANDED score from a Disney ANIMATED film. No easy feat.

I don't agree. It's a tin zoetrope box; it revolves; it has a music chip; it has a thick hardcover book; it even has a specially designed USB stick. This is a mere wild guess, but if they had just released the CDs and the DVD, I think it would have been 300 dollars or something.

[Andy 4,138]

I agree with Koray's logic on this also. It's just a colossal project, and while no one can deny what a great product it looks to be, I'd rather be able to pick and choose titles individually on my own time. "Labors of Love" are indeed lovely, but just not practical for every collector.

And yet, Fommes makes a good point about the extra bells and whistles. I suppose we'll never know how every aspect affects the price, but I do hope this isn't a trend. Well-produced CD's, trickled out over time, are much more palatable than gargantuan box sets with massive price tags.

[indy4 155]

Good interview. I'm glad they were able to clear up some vague areas. A few interesting points in the interview:

My favorite is the unused score Elfman composed for an EDWARD SCISSORHANDS ballet. It is a stunning work. I had not heard it since he first composed it and rediscovering it was a revelation.

These are listed as "unused score demos"...does that mean they're synthesized? Or did Elfman actually record anything?

We were also very fortunate that fans had materials that Elfman and even the studios did not.

I wonder what this was?

[fommes 153]

The international versions of Nightmare before Christmas, I'm sure.

[indy4 155]

Ah, right.

[TownerFan 4,983]

As much as I appreciate all the hard work, all the effort, etc., and as much as I like Mr Kraft a lot for handling stuff like this (including message board posts and mails!) personally, one does get the feeling from this interview that there hasn't been given much thought to the actual fans. I mean, the box couldn't be better in any possible way, and I'm not really a socialist or something, but they might have considered toning down the unnecessary fanciness so that it might be even slightly affordable. If everyone is going to start taking pages out of Townson's booklet, this niche is going to self-destruct soon.

Very well said, pal.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Looks like they might start charging for this. The transaction popped up on my account again.

[Jay 37,369]

Peter K of moviemusic.com says:

I don't know how long this will last....

WB first replied that this was exclusive to the WB website, but the box is now appearing in major distribution channels, so:

http://www.moviemusi...elfmantimburton

We'll see how this goes!

PK

His price of $492.88 + $2.99 shipping can't be beat!

I also found it on amazon:

http://www.amazon.co...c/dp/B0049ZQZAQ

Currently listed there at $529.98 w/ free shipping

So we have:

Official site - $499.99 + $55.00 shipping = $554.99

Amazon.com - $529.98 + free shipping = $529.98

moviemusic.com - $492.88 + $2.99 shipping = $495.87

Anyone found it anywhere else yet?

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I'll wait until Amazon has a complete listing to re-order it from them.

[Jay 37,369]

Why would you do that? moviemusic's price is almost $40 cheaper!

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I trust Amazon.

[Jay 37,369]

PeterK and moviemusic.com is the most trustworthy vendor I've ever encountered. I'm sure there's a lot of people here who will back me up on that.

[Ollie 1,059]

Yes he is.

But people are going to order from whomever they are comfortable with.

[Jay 37,369]

$487.99 canadian ($488.43 US) on Amazon Canada:

http://www.amazon.ca...c/dp/B0049ZQZAQ

397.19 pounds ($641.50 US) on Amazon UK:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Danny-Elfman-Burton-Anniversary-Music/dp/B0049ZQZAQ

[ZackR 95]

I love Danny Elfman. He's one of my favorite composers. If only they'd do something like this for Williams/Spielberg. I'd give anything for expanded Lost World, demo cues, etc from all their collaborations. I can dream.

I can't wait for this thing though. It's very cost-prohibitive, but will be worth it I think.

[Wojo 2,453]

Why would you do that? moviemusic's price is almost $40 cheaper!

With the economy in shambles, it makes more sense for Koray to give as much of his money away as he can. Wall Street salutes you.

[fommes 153]

I think in Europe it's cheapest from Amazon.de (taking into account custom taxes).

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Yes he is.

But people are going to order from whomever they are comfortable with.

Exactly. 80% of my business is direct with Amazon. I know that they will get my items to my doorstep on the release day no hassles. I never have to worry every time they ship something out like I do with La-La Land or recently with Perseverance. UPS and FedEx > USPS

Not to mention you can track all of your purchases. So I always know where everything is. I don't want to lose something this big and expensive.

[Trent B 337]

PeterK and moviemusic.com is the most trustworthy vendor I've ever encountered. I'm sure there's a lot of people here who will back me up on that.

Yes he is.

But people are going to order from whomever they are comfortable with.

Both of you speak the truth and I too can vouch for Peter. The last several years I've been ordering from Peter and I 99% of the time order directly from him, he has never once steered me wrong. In fact there have been a couple of members here, who asked about him and then eventually ordered and found out what we were telling were true.

Koray definitely give Peter a chance he'll come through for you, he always does.

Edit: With Peter you have the option of ordering 3 scores to get the $1 shipping (which is I think First Class shipping) or select Priority Mail and he always sends a tracking number with each order you place.

I'm not sure if he sends tracking numbers for the $1 shipping items but I know for a fact for the Priority shipping option he always does.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

I'm sure he would, but I have no reason to buy from Movie Music directly unless they start releasing stuff of their own.

[Jay 37,369]

Exactly!

Peter has a variety of shipping options, and using any of them would still bring you under Amazon's $529.98

Standard (3-10 business days) $2.99

Priority (3-4 business days) $5.99

UPS Ground (3-7 business days) $7.99

UPS Second Day (2 business days) $13.99

UPS Next Day (1 business day) $18.99

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Well instead of paying $20 for UPS next day, I get that for free on Amazon.

[Trent B 337]

All Peter is, is a vendor like Amazon and SAE. He won't be releasing score CD's of his own. To completely dismiss him until he does so is a bit rather...well stupid.

[Wojo 2,453]

The primary reason I buy anything from Peter is to get the $1 shipping. It seems that his primary warehouse is in NM, and since I'm in PA, the $1 shipping naturally takes a long time to receive, but I'm usually not in a hurry.

A side benefit to Peter's business is that he does allow customers to change their orders after they have been placed, but there's no way to predict I'll do that when I place the order. It's not even really important that MM doesn't use Paypal, because neither does Amazon (as far as I remember).

If I "need" the album in a hurry, I'll order directly from its label or SAE. It usually seems that MM gets shipments from the labels at the same time that first-generation label consumers do, adding to the delay.

I think the only soundtrack I ever bought from Amazon was The Best of Both Worlds, which SAE ran out of, and I was buying The Doug Adams Project anyways.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

All Peter is, is a vendor like Amazon and SAE. He won't be releasing score CD's of his own. To completely dismiss him until he does so is a bit rather...well stupid.

I understand that. I just don't see the value in it. $1 shipping is great, but free two-day and release date shipping is better.

[Jay 37,369]

Well instead of paying $20 for UPS next day, I get that for free on Amazon.

Amazon: $529.98 + $0.00 shipping = $529.98

MovieMusic: $492.88 + $18.99 next day shipping = $511.87

Still a savings of almost twenty bucks.

Of course, if you want to spend extra money to possibly get it earlier, that's your prerogative!

Hopefully Amazon lowers their price at some point as well. If they don't sell a lot between now and Christmas, I suspect they will.

[Jay 37,369]

PeterK posted that the suggested list price for the box is $529.99.

Does anybody know on average how much below SRP the cost to a retailer usually is?

I want to say its 75% maybe? That would mean WB is selling it to retailers for about $397 if so.

[Once 605]

I wish I had the money to buy this!!