publicist 4,643 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Whatever you do on the f..ing Bond scores, you only can lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Bullshit. SKYFALL is NOT boring.It's not what I wanted it to be. But it works very well in context, is mixed well and there's nothing I can really say against it. I just wished for someone to force Newman out of his comfort zone. He rarely writes in a more traditional vein. Hopefully, we'll get to hear him unleash an orchestra once more before everything is said and done (not necessarily with this series). Why? Because whenever he does, it's pure magic.From his list: TDKR was a very bad score, Skyfall was so boring, The Avengers was forgettable, and I admittedly really need to listen to Cloud Atlas, Moonrise Kingdom and the aforementioned Life of Pi and ZD30Pretty much "all" the Moonrise Kingdom is here. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 LIFE OF PI is a wonderful movie but the score is merely serviceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 That might be true, still better than many others from that year.The song is gorgeous, though.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Don't forget Journey To The Mysterious Island!Isn't that more of a pastiche score?I don't know and I don't care. It's a great score.I admittedly really need to listen to Cloud AtlasIt's quite a mix bag. There is a half that is truly good, then there's the other half that is downright unlistenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Well, I still haven't seen the movie yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Well, then move your ass, dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Soon, hopefully. Tonight is Empire of the Sun, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Cloud Atlas is a really good score. Reinhold Heil complimented me on my review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Would be funny to tell Goldsmith that in person. "Your work, sir, feels like a firm handjob..."I knew there was something Jeff Bond wasn't telling us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Journey of Natty Gann - James HornerHe really knows how to convey the wonder, optimism, and emotions of the main character. As a musical experience, it works just as well with the film as it does without it. And dammit, the one-two punch of "Farewell" and "Reunion - End Title" still leave me teary-eyed. And you have to give Simon Rhodes credit for mixing the score so well that it sounds like it was recorded yesterday. Amazing score and amazing job at Intrada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Lair!ACTION ACTION ACTION ACTION Ehru and Lisbeth Scott solo ACTION ACTION ACTION ACTION!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 From his list: TDKR was a very bad score, Skyfall was so boring, The Avengers was forgettableHey Bane, is Jason wrong about these three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 TDKR was a bad score, Avengers was forgettable. Skyfall was good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I love Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, the films I mean, but the scores are just there, they don't hurt or help the film, except sometimes when I think (when watching the films) that the film could be even better right here if better music was playing. TDKR was a bad film, a very big letdown of a concluding chapter to what had been a great franchise before then. None of the three scores offer anything I enjoy listening to on their own.I tried several times to get into Skyfall, the score I mean. The film was great! But for the score, I listened to the OST twice, the FYC disc, and a fan edit combining the two and still just don't "get" this score. It's all just so boring! Admittedly, a big part of it for me could be that I can't help but compare it to Arnold's Bond scores, which I love!Avengers, I didn't like the film so I haven't seen it again or listened to the score on it's own. I should give the OST a shot some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I felt that TDKR was the one Batman score that was actually intrusive in film in many parts.I found the Avengers OST rather average as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What parts were intrusive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 There are definitely some Goldsmithian moments in there. Overcooked and less neat than he would have done it, but still.Speaking of the old metalworker, I'm listening to Star Trek: Nemesis at the moment. It's amazing how this score has grown on me. From one of the least appealing Treks it has become one of my current favourites. Maybe because I generally I prefer moodier film music to the jolly fanfares, which this one delivers in spades. He also does some really cool things with Shinzon's theme, a character development that is quite atypical for this series.KarolIt's workmanlike but always when i hear people whine how bad it is and then applauding Giacchino for his half-assed efforts i can't help but think that MG never even approaches the structural brilliance of a cue like REPAIRS. I had the misfortune of seeing the movie on tv some afternoon and what even middling JG was able to put behind those perfunctory scenes feels like the firm handjob grip of an old whore with 100 years of practice just knowing her stuff.Nemesis was never one of Goldsmith's greatest scores. We never anticipated it being not only his final Star Trek work, but one of his final works altogether. We also never anticipated that not long after this, the great big 100-piece orchestra symphonic scores we'd all been taking for granted all those years would become less and less frequent. Now that we're in this dark age of film music, Nemesis proves to be a score way ahead of its time. We look back on it not only as the quality score it is, but with fucking lust and longing for those days. At least, I do anyway. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 The Dark Knight Rises is a pretty good listen, if just for Bane's material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Tracks like On Thin Ice and The End are very old school synthy, Vangelis like. Why Do We Fall? is a classic Zimmer "pump up" quasi-passacaglia. The Bane material will also get your blood flowing, but I find the atonal rhythmic stuff and ostinati and "ethnic" League of Shadows stuff (echoing Ra's' theme from BB) more interesting than the brooding bass lines associated with him. The Rise finale is a great coda to the series. I love just how far into electronica the score gets in its most intense moments. Some stuff sounds like it could be lifted directly from an EDM album.And the movie was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What parts were intrusive?Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Brónach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 With the Dark Knight Rises it didn't really help that the music almost caused my ears to bleed because of the "no subtlety" rule Zimmer and Nolan seem to employ.Memoirs of a Geisha by John WilliamsSuite from Memoirs of a Geisha for Cello and Orchestra by John WilliamsAmistad by John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What parts were intrusive? Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura BasuraI'm just sitting here headbanging to your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I know. I had the same reaction when I was watching the film and that theme kept on playing on a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What parts were intrusive? Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura BasuraI'm just sitting here headbanging to your post.In 5/4, I take it? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What parts were intrusive? Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura Basura Deshe Deshe Basura BasuraSay what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 "He rises", I think.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I've also been listening to Princess Mononoke.Love this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9mGQU7rGGM#t=1h47m33s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Overall, I'm not a huge fan of the score, but I love this track. Most for 21:34 (that's my headbangin bit), though I also like the Goldsmithian bit from 8:15 onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Tracks like Papa Song and Sloosha's Hollow really brings it down, for me.In the context of the entire score, I think they serve as a great downtime. There's some really interesting sonic textures going on there, and when the music kicks it back up in "Sonmi - 451 Meets Chang," awesome sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 RoboCop by Basil PoledourisGot this today in the mail (the Intrada release). Delicious and witty. Love the use of 80's electronics, much more interesting than what he later did with Red October. Love the commercials music - hilarious. In my book, his second best after Conan.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Gerhardt's Empire Strikes Back album is certainly one of the greatest audio recordings in the history of the human race. If our civilization ended and an alien race exploring the ruins of our world had to uncover only one thing to represent our history...I would be okay with it being the Gerhardt Empire Strikes Back album. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Overall, I'm not a huge fan of the score, but I love this track. Most for 21:34 (that's my headbangin bit), though I also like the Goldsmithian bit from 8:15 onwards. Yeah big fan of that first passage, again more for the shimmering ostinati than the bass line. Interesting to hear this, what I assume are the live sessions, before anything is overlayed onto them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Overall, I'm not a huge fan of the score, but I love this track. Most for 21:34 (that's my headbangin bit), though I also like the Goldsmithian bit from 8:15 onwards. Yeah big fan of that first passage, again more for the shimmering ostinati than the bass line. Interesting to hear this, what I assume are the live sessions, before anything is overlayed onto them.I also love the synth toms on the 4th beat of every other bar. I literally can't help but swing my torso back when they hit.FWIW, the film version of the cue is quite different. More subdued.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_KNUBkd0GY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Nice, that guy has a lot of non-album stuff that I'll have to give a listen to. It's gonna be a pain when I feel compelled to track all of that down for Interstellar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Yeah, TDKR sessions have been out for ages. Still waiting for MoS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Nice, that guy has a lot of non-album stuff that I'll have to give a listen to. It's gonna be a pain when I feel compelled to track all of that down for Interstellar....Yeah, there are a lot of sessions out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Gerhardt's Empire Strikes Back album is certainly one of the greatest audio recordings in the history of the human race. If our civilization ended and an alien race exploring the ruins of our world had to uncover only one thing to represent our history...I would be okay with it being the Gerhardt Empire Strikes Back album.Are you talking specifically about the recording quality, or about the entire album as a whole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Always loved the disc. And while performance on some pieces might be inferior to LSO, in other tracks exceeds the original.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 It was on of my earliest film score purchases, a true gem of a CD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 A terrific CD although I am not too keen on the performance of the brass section on all tracks.Young Sherlock Holmes by Bruce BroughtonLair by John DebneyNerakhoon - The Betrayal by Howard Shore: Strangely enough I can hear shades of what is to come in e.g. in The Hobbit scores in this one. Howard Shore through and through in musical language and motifs but the prominent solo cello and a smaller chamber ensemble with choice choir sections give it an interesting twist. At times exquisitely beautiful and lyrical at times classically brooding Shore it will certainly please his fans, both of Middle Earth and of his darker psychologically infused scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Not Gerhardt's finest, but that doesn't necessarily constitute a failure.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Not Gerhardt's finest, but that doesn't necessarily constitute a failure.KarolOh certainly not. On the whole still a great CD. And a nice reimagining of the score in a suite form, something I wish Williams would do more often these days since he himself hasn't got the time to do any compilations anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 He still arranges quite a lot of suites.Conan The Barbarian for me today.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 He still arranges quite a lot of suites.Conan The Barbarian for me today.KarolHe arranges them but not many of them see a studio recording these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 spent about 6 hours listening to Horner yesterday on the drive to and from Home and the Rock.Avatar, The Amazing Spiderman, Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, and pieces of other scores.Can't wait to hear how badly Zimmer will fail again following a far superior composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Whole score is on YouTube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Y6yjP643o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Gerhardt's Empire Strikes Back album is certainly one of the greatest audio recordings in the history of the human race. If our civilization ended and an alien race exploring the ruins of our world had to uncover only one thing to represent our history...I would be okay with it being the Gerhardt Empire Strikes Back album.Are you talking specifically about the recording quality, or about the entire album as a whole?Everything. As far as I'm concerned, a perfect Star Wars album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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