GAME OF THRONES

[KK 3,307]

You really should move out from Canada! Your country seems to be blocking every fucking link there is! And you know what they say: "This is how liberty dies. With video links being blocked"

I know it sucks. But we have perks that make up for it (I think....). There must be an ulterior motive to want me out of Canada so badly...is there something you're hiding Messenger?

And thanks for doing whatever you did to the video. Trailer looks good, surprised they didn't add any hints of the massive amount of sex we'll probably see in the episode...

Anyway... You didn't notice the Iron Islands theme? And you call yourself a film score fan? Please, tell me that you at least noticed the Sex Motif that was introduced in the first episode of the season (the one that has choir and lots of horns), and that was developped in this second episode. Because if you didn't, then I don't see how I can help you.

That was Melisandre's theme you dolt! It was just in sexy form. Nothing says sexy like a nice set of choir and horn samples...OH and add hints of ethnic percussion for more edge and flavour

Maybe I'm just too ignorant to see the brilliance of Djawadi's thematic tapestry...

[Incanus 5,715]

Oh yeah Djabadaba has been truly prolifically prodigious this season. All the intricate themes and development of the old material. I am beginning to hear it now BloodBoal. The Sex theme in particular on the synth choir and horns is immensely gratifying, pushing the listener to a climax and having a earth shattering orgasmic finish is pretty awesome. I never knew one could score scoring with such toe curling satisfaction.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[ChrisAfonso 186]

I suppose they could have named each season after its specific book title.

Unfortunately this wouldn't work for long, what with the third book being split over two seasons, and after that it gets really messy book/chronology-wise.

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[Joni Wiljami 1,206]

Oh that sounds good. This series rides on the success of LOTR with some corny soft porn included. Dajhawardi's generic music doesn't help at all.

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[Charlie Brigden 7]

There's nothing soft about that porn.

[KK 3,307]

No. This series rides on the success of porn films with some corny soft fantasy included. Dajhawardi's generic music really helps enhancing the porn scenes.

Of course! What would GoT be without Djawadi's magnificent sex theme!

And in all seriousness, the series runs more on the success of the novels than LOTR. And yes the sex has lured in some masses too. But the series has very little (if any) resemblance to LOTR.

[KK 3,307]

Saw Game of Thrones just now. Easily the best episode of the season. A lot more action and activity, and the character depth was even more fascinating than usual. All acting was brilliant and top notch. Tyrion's crafty manipulation was well played (expectedly ofc) and God I absolutely love Varys. Theres a lot going on in King's Landing in terms of character development. I really liked where both Sansa and Cersei's characters are going. On Renly's side, I realized that I could really get used to this new Margarey Tyrell. Yes, she's not the innocent little girl she was in the book, but when you really read the novels (especially the later one), its most definitely not hard to believe that under all that cover was actually one cunning, manipulative woman. And I was quite impressed with Natalie Dormer's performance and am excited to see what the future holds for her in this series. The sex was also restrained which was good. Overall, there was an enormous amount of depth and activity in this episode that made it far more engaging than its predecessors. Really enjoyed this one!

As for the music...well they say 3rd times the charm...unfortunately those folk never heard Djawadi's music. Quite disappointing (and I think it'll remain that way) without the improvement I expected. There was a nice motif for the Greyjoys at the Theon scene, although the horrible synths really made it hard to grasp anything at all. Furthermore, we hear the return of the dread motif during Arya's fantastic spotlight. Other than that...nothing much. Oh wait, was that the fabled sex theme on the cello during Natalie Dormer's spotlight? Only the great BloodBoal can tell...

Overall, I was really happy with this one (easily the best of the season) and am really looking forward to the next episode...Daenerys reaches Quarth (SHE'S FINALLY DOING SOMETHING!) .

[Incanus 5,715]

I agree K.K. It was a rather excellent episode and the things moved forward quite a bit by the second season standards. Some new characters appeared, without much fanfare though. Natalie Dormer was pretty different from the character in the novel but I she was pretty good as a very savvy young queen. Gwendoline Christie's Brienne was spot on, excellent in acting, demeanor and in appearance. And finally less sex and more character development on all fronts. I wonder if Aeron Damphair will become more prominent character. Tyrion and King's Landing events were highly entertaining and the regular cast provided again highly titillating and satisfying performances, both subtle and dramatic. But where is my favourite character (after Beric Dondarrion of course) Tywin Lannister? I hope he appears soon!

Djabadaba provided droning for personal moments and ultra subtle thematic statements. I was almost at the edge of my hearing straining and hoping some kind of eloquent melody would pop out but alas no. Also I was hoping for some muscular brass in the main title music which is getting too thin for my tastes as well. It would sound so much better with it.

[Quintus 5,399]

"Mood". It's the new power anthem.

[Incanus 5,715]

"Mood". It's the new power anthem.

He is a visionary I tell you. Come to renew the age old and worn conventions of musical story telling. It is anti-storytelling. Or as you call it. "Mood". Djabadaba is to film music what Spielberg is to Laser Cats saga.

[Quintus 5,399]

The music is probably the blandest underscore I've ever heard.

Aside from the main theme (and it's "stirring" arrangement in the season one finale) is the cue which plays as King Robert rides into Winterfell the only other time so far where RD attempts something with a bit of musical character, something which vaguely resembles an orchestral theme?

I mean, even then it's rudimentary chord development at best. I'm not saying I dont like some of the moody ambience he provides (North of the Wall for etc), but seriously, where the heck did they find this guy?

[KK 3,307]

The music is probably the blandest underscore I've ever heard.

Aside from the main theme (and it's "stirring" arrangement in the season one finale) is the cue which plays as King Robert rides into Winterfell the only other time so far where RD attempts something with a bit of musical character, something which vaguely resembles an orchestral theme?

Thats supposed to be the fanfare theme for King's Landing and the Baratheons...yes, he considers it a theme

I mean, even then it's rudimentary chord development at best. I'm not saying I dont like some of the moody ambience he provides (North of the Wall for etc), but seriously, where the heck did they find this guy?

He's cheap and affordable. And you can trust him to be melodically anonymous so that his score barely has a presence in the show (which I assume is what producers wanted) unlike the great scores Stephen Warbeck might have come up with. I would say Djawadi was supposed to be the McDonalds of film music...but McDonalds has flavour that one can enjoy (despite how bad it is), this score just has droning...

So far, the 2nd season sounds worse than the first. The 1st at least had some decent highlights (like the finale cue, some pretty nice moments of Stark cello material, etc).

And could someone tell Mr. Djabadaba to get rid of his AWFUL synth samples and find a small ensemble somewhere to record his score...or at the very least..GET BETTER SAMPLES!!!

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Loved the episode, greatness.

Brill: Tyrion's scheming, Varys' speech, Brienne, the hilarious attempted consumation (and Margaery's tits!), and well done with Theon - I used to hate him, but that little scene with him and his pops was really well done. The dinner scene with Cersei made me audibly boo her. Good stuff!

Boo: Loras really is a twat, and his hair is annoying.

Next one looks good. I can honestly say that this is about the only film/show where I don't care about the music. The underscore is certainly bland, but I think that's a good thing as it can just be background ambience to the dialogue etc. It's usually ok during the bits it needs to be, but I love the show so much I find it hard to really care.

[KK 3,307]

I just saw episode 3. It is indeed the best one so far. Things are finally moving, and that's for the better. A few thoughts on the episode:

- Brienne Of Tarth. Wow. Impressive. Is Christie really that tall? How do they that? Forced perspective? It doesn't look like it to me. - Tyrion messing up with Varys, Littlefinger and Pycelle. Hehehe... - Sophie Turner really grew up a lot between the two seasons! Really, she's a giant now! During her scene with Shae, I was like: "Are they using forced perspective??" (yet again!) Really, watch the episode again, if you don't trust me! That truly is impressive! - Oh, no, more gay sex! Move on! - Enter Anne Boleyn Margaery Tyrell, manipulating Henry The VIII Renly Baratheon. You better take care of this head of yours, Margy! - Bye bye, Yoren. I liked you. But now, you're dead. So, I don't like you that much. - Theon’s betraying the Starks! Don’t look so surprised, we all see it coming from miles ahead. I mean, he’s got the face of a traitor, anyway! - Hey, what's up with that blonde kid taking Gendry's helmet? That's stupid, and served no purpose other than giving us a cliffangher at the end. That was pretty lame, you've got to admit. - All in all, I still feel that season 2 episodes don't have a coherent structure. They really feel disjointed. We saw Jon's story for like 3 minutes at the beginning, then nothing for the whole episode. WTF? Then, they are other storylines to which we go back like 5 times in an episode. I'm not a fan of that "construction" for the episodes. Bah! As long as the story progresses... - Where’s Lord Beric Dondarrion, for fuck’s sake?

While I see what you mean, I think the reason behind the lack of more firm structure is because the first few episodes are being used to get familiarize us once again with the universe and the characters and such. And I think with the 3rd episode, its clear that narrative is getting on firm ground again and is soundly progressing. All the character nuances are continuing to impress. I have no doubt that this season shall be better than the last. As for Dondarrion, be patient or be destroyed!

Tyrion's crafty manipulation was well played (expectedly ofc) and God I absolutely love Varys.

Agreed. Tyrion's scenes were probably the best in this episode (along with Yoren's scene at the end).

As for the music...well they say 3rd times the charm...unfortunately those folk never heard Djawadi's music. Quite disappointing (and I think it'll remain that way) without the improvement I expected. Oh wait, was that the fabled sex theme on the cello during Natalie Dormer's spotlight? Only the great BloodBoal can tell...

Actually, I'm not quite sure it was the sex theme. The thing, I noticed while rewatching the first three episodes from season 2 that Djawadi wrote THREE musical ideas for the sex in GoT: there is a Cock's motif (Also known as the Dick's theme), used for every male character in a sex scene. Then, there is the Cunt's motif, used, as may have guessed, for female characters in sex scenes. And finally, there is the sex theme, which is a mix between the two previously mentioned motives. In that particular scene you mentiond, Merciful One, I definitely heard the Cunt's motif, but I'm not certain that there was the Cock's motif used as a counterpoint.

I laugh at you, mocking Djabadabada, while failing to grasp the intricacy of his musical tapestry! His theme for Tyrion, for example, which is only 3 notes long, to show that this is really a short character, is brilliant! And I think I heard bits of Spiderman's theme in Varys' own theme. Varys, who, let me remind you, is know as The Spider! Yep, Djabadabada is one clever beggar!

Brilliant! Sheer brilliance! I could not have ever understood the intellectual nuances behind Djabadabada's score without this analysis! Thank you Messenger! I think its clear that we need to elect you as the new Grand Music Analyst!

Anyway, I’ll leave you with Episode 4 – Garden Of Bones trailer:

Finally! A trailer that works! And it looks even better than the last (and seemingly absent of the mindless sex too). Can't wait!

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[Incanus 5,715]

Alas poor Yoren! He was surprisingly more amiable in the show than in the novel

But where are Beric Dondarrion and Tywin Lannister, the most central characters of the whole show? The trailer did not show a wink of them.

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[Incanus 5,715]

But where are Beric Dondarrion and Tywin Lannister, the most central characters of the whole show? The trailer did not show a wink of them.

I can understand your concern regarding Dondarrion, but Tywin Lannister, really? Who cares about him? Did he appear in the book during the events that were shown in episodes 1 to 3?

No of course he does not appear during these events but he should have his own show, Tywin's Gone A-Hunting where he would hunt Starks and peasants and whatnot and offer them his own brand of regal slight regard and aristocratic scorn and butcher and burn them as he has done in the 3 episodes he has been in the previous season. Dondarrion is nowhere as deep and interesting character. Plus Charles Dance was my first and only choice for the role of Tywin Lannister when I first read the novels. He just excels so well in being cold, aristocratic and disapproving.

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[Incanus 5,715]

Dondarrion is nowhere as deep and interesting character.

Take that back... TAKE THAT BACK!!!

Only if you stop trying to besmirch Tywin Lannister's good and haughtily cold person!

I can't wait to see Daenerys do something else than surviving in a desert from episode to the next. She has dragons. She should start kicking ass and fast!

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[Quintus 5,399]

Just watched epi 1 of the second season.

It was brilliant, obviously.

THAT montage at the end was devilish.

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[Incanus 5,715]

Thanks for the videos BloodBoal! Interesting stuff although the intents of the scenes are so self explanatory the directors, writers or cast members don't really have much to say.

[Quintus 5,399]

Usually people wait at least for the dvd before breaking the magic. Is the desire to have each and every mundane production detail laid out before one's eyes so powerful that they can't at least wait until the season's finished before watching? Why watch the show at all, if we can't suspend disbelief for longer than fifty minutes? What is the point? Bloodboal watches each episode not as an entertainment, but as clinical examination; it's little surprise he didn't get caught up in the unadulterated fun of Tintin.

The same people who watch these publicity vids with eager embrace are the same people who defend Lucas' Midichlorians.

[Incanus 5,715]

Wow. You are grumpy today.

There is not a show at this moment where I would enjoy the story and characters more. But I certainly don't feel that my suspension of disbelief or enjoyment of the series is damaged if I watch such production videos. Watching them does not indicate any lack of interest in the show itself or the story, it just shows interest also to the workings behind the production, which I have to admit are not exactly huge for me. As I said I primarily enjoy the show for the story and characters, not what director has to say about a particular scene after it has been aired.

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[Quintus 5,399]

I had five minutes to kill.

[Incanus 5,715]

Speaking of the show, have the new characters convinced you yet Quint?

[Quintus 5,399]

I must admit it was a bit jarring when suddenly in the first episode there was this redheaded witch on the beach and some old coot protesting against her. Frankly, I didn't like it - who were these people? Where is Winterfell? Where is The Wall? Why can't I see Jamie Lannister in this shot? Mummy, I don't like it, I want to go home! But then Stannis Baratheon was named as one of their number and I cautiously begun to ease down a bit. I let my guard down and watched with curiosity, which by the end of the scene ended with a sense of mild intrigue.

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[Incanus 5,715]

Well the whole Dragonstone scene would have been better as the opening as it was in the novel. It would have added a bit of mystery, presenting us these strange people and not a whiff of the old cast and then gone to King's Landing to restore our sense of familiarity.

[Quintus 5,399]

That sounds much better. I wonder fat made them change their mind? (one assumes it was the original idea.)

Pressure from execs? "our viewers might think they're watching a different show! Where are Daenery's tits?"

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[Incanus 5,715]

That sounds much better. I wonder fat made them change their mind? (one assumes it was the original idea.)

Pressure from execs? "our viewers might think they're watching a different show! Where's Daenery's tits?"

Yes probably something like that I would imagine.

[Quintus 5,399]

I wonderfat too.

Blame auto-correction on my phone.

[Jay 37,370]

Did anybody see the Game Of Thrones bit on SNL this weekend? Hilarious

http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of-thrones

[Incanus 5,715]

It all makes sense now!

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[Jay 37,370]

Did you watch the video? It's not a parody of the show

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[Quintus 5,399]

Did anybody see the Game Of Thrones bit on SNL this weekend? Hilarious

http://gawker.com/5902076/snl-explains-the-nudity-in-game-of-thrones

Oh god I haven't seen those episodes yet, but I just know they're gonna wind me up. The juvenile gratuity FUCKING RUINS this show.

[Incanus 5,715]

Did anybody see the Game Of Thrones bit on SNL this weekend? Hilarious

http://gawker.com/59...game-of-thrones

Oh god I haven't seen those episodes yet, but I just know they're gonna wind me up. The juvenile gratuity FUCKING RUINS this show.

Yup. Sadly there are even transitions from bed to bed in the second episode.

[Quintus 5,399]

Hopefully in years to come there'll be a brilliant fan edit - Game of Thrones: The Rated Soft Edition.

Violence left intact, obviously.

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[Docteur Qui 1,544]

Great episode. Thoroughly getting into the meat of Clash of Kings, and if the preview of next week is anything to go by, one of my favourite moments of the book (with Davos and Melisandre) is coming up soon... Excellent.

Also, I'm personally glad to see some gay sex on the show. Some sexposition for lads like me, finally.