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Here's a complete cue list including where you can find the released cues on the OST

01 1M1 Alt The Opening - 02A The Journey to the Hanamachi [0:00-1:58] (1:58)
02A 1M2A The Story
02B 1M2A Rev The Story
02C 1M2A New - 01 Sayuri's Theme (1:31)
03 1M3 Atmospheres
04A 1M5 Where's My Sister? (Flute Version)
04B 1M5 Alt Where's My Sister?
05 1M5A The Roofs of Hanachi - 07B Finding Satu [1:43-3:04] (1:21)
06 1M6 In Hatsumomo's Room
07A 1M7 Off to School
07B 1M7 New Off to School - 03 Going to School (2:42)
08A 2M2 Staining the Kimono
08B-1 2M2 New A Teasing - 04A Brush on Silk [0:00-0:14] (0:14)
08B-2 2M2 New B - 04B Brush on Silk [0:14-0:25] (0:11)
08B-3 2M2 New C - 04C Brush on Silk [0:25-end] (2:06)
09 2M2B Approaching Mameha - 07C Finding Satu [3:04-end] (0:40)

10 2M4 A House Called Tatsuyo
11 2M7 Finding Tatsu
12A 3M1 On the Roof
12B 3M1 New On the Roof - 09 The Rooftops of the Hanamachi (3:49)
12C 3M1 New Insert
13 3M2 Letters From Home
14A 3M3 The Chairman's Waltz
14B 3M3X The Chairman's Waltz (Longer Version)
15 3M4 Chio's Prayer - 05 Chiyo's Prayer (3:36)
16 3M5 Enter Mamao - 07A Finding Satu [0:00-1:43] (1:43)
17 4M1 A Fresh Start
18 4M2 Mameha's Instruction - 06 Becoming a Geisha (4:52)
19 4M3 A New Name...A New Life - 13 A New Name... A New Life (3:33)
20 4M6 Trip to the Sumo Match
21 5M1 Hatching Plans
22 5M3A The Doctor Won't See You
23 5M4 Do You Like Someone Else
24 5M8 The Cherry Garden - 10B The Garden Meeting [1:39-end] (1:05)
25 5M9 Discussing Nobu
26 6M1 Alt
27 6M2 Celebrate This Moment
28 6M3 Alt - 11 Dr. Crab's Prize (2:18)
29 6M4 The Fire Scene - 14A The Fire Scene [0:00-3:21] (3:21)
30 6M5A The War Comes - 14B The Coming of War [3:21-end] (3:27)
31A 6M5B After the War - 15 As the Water... (2:01)
31B 6M5B After the War (Violin and Cello Version)
32 7M1A
33 7M5 Preparing for the Reunion - 10A The Garden Meeting [0:00-1:39] (1:39)
34A 7M7 Beg Nobu's Plea
34B 7M7 We Have No Choice - 12 Destiny's Path (3:20)
35A 8M1 The Handkerchief Scene (Flute Version)
35B 8M1 Rev The Handkerchief Scene
35C 8M1C Handkerchief Scene
36D 8M1C Revised The Handkerchief Scene - 17 A Dream Discarded (2:00)
37A 8M2 Entering the Garden (Flute Version)
37B 8M2C Entering the Garden (Cello Version)
38A 8M3 Confluence
38B 8M3 Rev Confluence
38C 8M3 New Coming Together - 16 Confluence (3:42)
39 8M4 The Chairman's Waltz

40 Sayuri's Theme - 18 Sayuri's Theme and End Credits (5:06)

Bonus theme arrangements:
Brush on Silk
Chairman's Waltz (Full Version) - 08 The Chairman's Waltz (2:39)
Chairman's Waltz (Violin Variations)
Theme - 02B The Journey to the Hanamachi [1:58-end] (2:08)

Here is a breakdown of the OST

01 Sayuri's Theme (01:31)

  • 1M2A New The Story

02 The Journey to the Hanamachi (4:06)

  • [0:00-1:58] = 1M1 Alt The Opening
  • [1:58-end] = Theme

03 Going to School (02:42)

  • 1M7 New Off to School [added percussion]

04 Brush on Silk (02:31)

  • [0:00-0:14] = 2M2 New A Teasing
  • [0:14-0:25] = 2M2 New B
  • [0:25-end] = 2M2 New C

05 Chiyo's Prayer (03:36)

  • 3M4 Chio's Prayer

06 Becoming a Geisha (04:52)

  • 4M2 Mameha's Instruction [micro edit for about 6 bars of the percussion soli]

07 Finding Satu (03:44)

  • [0:00-1:43] = 3M5 Enter Mamao
  • [1:43-3:04] = 1M5A The Roofs of Hanachi
  • [3:04-end] = 2M2B Approaching Mameha

08 The Chairman's Waltz (02:39)

  • Chairman's Waltz (Full Version) [recording bars 29- 32 do not match music, bars 79-114 cut]

09 The Rooftops of the Hanamachi (03:49)

  • 3M1 New On the Roof [not sure at this time whether it includes 3M1 New Insert as well]

10 The Garden Meeting (02:44)

  • [0:00-1:39] = 7M5 Preparing for the Reunion
  • [1:39-end] = 5M8 The Cherry Garden [bar 4-end]

11 Dr. Crab's Prize (02:18)

  • 6M3 Alt

12 Destiny's Path (03:20)

  • 7M7 We Have No Choice [possibly some micro edits]

13 A New Name... A New Life (03:33)

  • 4M3 A New Name...A New Life

14 The Fire Scene and the Coming of War (06:48)

  • [0:00-3:21] = 6M4 The Fire Scene
  • [3:21- end] = 6M5A The War Comes

15 As the Water... (02:01)

  • 6M5B After the War

16 Confluence (03:42)

  • 8M3 New Coming Together

17 A Dream Discarded (02:00)

  • 8M1C Revised The Hankerchief Scene

18 Sayuri's Theme and End Credits (05:06)

  • Sayuri's Theme

Thanks to the contributors in this thread, especially Joe Brausam and filmmusic, for figuring this all out!

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Original main post:

I'll admit that I'm not familiar with this score WHATSOEVER - I've listened to the OST once, and never seen the movie! Shameful, I know. Anywhere, here is the list!

I will leave it to others to figure out what is on the OST and what is unreleased.


01 1M1 Alt The Opening
02 1M2A The Story
03 1M2A Rev The Story
04 1M2A New
05 1M3 Atmospheres
06 1M5 Where's My Sister? (Flute Version)
07 1M5 Alt Where's My Sister?
08 1M5A The Roofs of Hanachi
09 1M6 In Hatsumomo's Room
10 1M7 Off to School
11 1M7 New Off to School
12 2M2 Staining the Kimono
13 2M2A New Teasing
14 2M2B Approaching Mametta
15 2M2B New
16 2M2C New
17 2M4 A House Called Tatsuyo
18 2M7 Finding Tatsu
19 3M1 On the Roof
20 3M1 New On the Roof
21 3M1 New Insert
22 3M2 Letters From Home
23 3M3 The Chairman's Waltz
24 3M3X The Chairman's Waltz (Longer Version)
25 3M4 Chio's Prayer
26 3M5 Enter Mamao
27 4M1 A Fresh Start
28 4M2 Mameha's Instruction
29 4M3 A New Name...A New Life
30 4M6 Trip to the Sumo Match
31 5M1 Hatching Plans
32 5M3A The Doctor Won't See You
33 5M4 Do You Like Someone Else
34 5M8 The Cherry Garden
35 5M9 Discussing Nobu
36 6M1 Alt
37 6M2 Celebrate This Moment
38 6M3 Alt
39 6M4 The Fire Scene
40 6M5A The War Comes
41 6M5B After the War
42 6M5B After the War (Violin and Cello Version)
43 7M1A
44 7M5 Preparing for the Reunion
45 7M7 Beg Nobu's Plea
46 7M7 We Have No Choice
47 8M1 The Hankerchief Scene (Flute Version)
48 8M1 Rev The Handkerchief Scene
49 8M1C Hankerchief Scene
50 8M1C Revised The Hankerchief Scene
51 8M2 Entering the Garden (Flute Version)
52 8M2C Entering the Garden (Cello Version)
53 8M3 Confluence
53 8M3 Rev Confluence
54 8M3 New Coming Together
55 8M4 The Chairman's Waltz
56 Brush on Silk
57 Chairman's Waltz (Full Version)
58 Chairman's Waltz (Violin Variations)
59 Sayuri's Theme
60 Theme


DISCUSS!

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The OST is more than enough for me. There is also a very good performance with cello (Memoirs of the Geisha suite). I do not need for every Williams score (or scores in general) a complete score (exeptions exists, of course!).

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I made a promise to myself to study and listen to everything Williams composed, so I'd absolutely love to hear all this Geisha stuff. This score is particularly interesting to see Williams' creative process. There are many alternates and cues that were reworked, it's almost another score waiting to be discovered.

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42 6M5B After the War (Violin and Cello Version)

This must be an alternate of As The Water. I would love to hear this one

It's probably the version with two oboes.

Karol

Which version is that?

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Well, I like a complete score. But this one is not a priority

It is for me. This and Potter 3 are easily my most favourite Williams scores of the past decade.

Same here with Geisha being my number one.

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I didn't really feel like I needed these sessions, even though it is my favorite Williams score because the album was pretty much the majority of the score. However, seeing the amount of alternates, I am pretty interested now.

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My analysis of this versus the soundtrack should be up within the hour. It is interesting to note that most of the tracks are completely intact, we weren't plagued with micro edits, the only ones that happened are during repetitive sections, such as the percussion soli in Becoming a Geisha.

And here we are...

Memoirs of a Geisha

OST/Full Score Comparison

1. "Sayuri's Theme" - 1M2 New (The Story)

2. "The Journey to the Hanamachi" - Unknown

3. "Going to School" - 1M7 New Off to School (added percussion)

4. "Brush on Silk" - 0:00-0:14 2M2A New Teasing, 0:14-0:25 2M2B New, 0:26-End 2M2C New

5. "Chiyo's Prayer" - 3M4 Chiyo's Prayer

6. "Becoming a Geisha" - 4M2 Mameha's Instruction (micro edit for about 6 bars of the percussion soli)

7. "Finding Satsu" - Unknown

8. "The Chairman's Waltz" - Chairman's Waltz (Full Version) recording bars 29- 32 do not match music, bars 79-114 cut.

9. "The Roooftops of the Hanamachi" - 3M1new On the Roof, this one was tough to follow, not sure at this time whether it includes 3m1new insert as well.

10."The Garden Meeting" - Unknown

11. "Dr. Crab's Prize" - wild shakuhachi? 6m3 alt

12."Destiny's Path" - 7m7 We Have No Choice (possibly some micro edits)

13. "A New Name... A New Life" - 4m3 A New Name... A New Life

14. "The Fire Scene and The Coming of War" - 0:00-3:21 6m4 The Fire Scene, 3:21- end 6m5a The War Comes

15. "Confluence" - 9m3 New Coming Together

16. "A Dream Discarded" - 8m1c (rev) The Handkerchief Scene

17. "Sayuri's Theme and End Credits" - Sayuri's Theme

A Dream Discarded has 3 earlier versions, one has a slightly different solo line for the cello, the other two are wood flute solos instead of cello, playing basically the same solo lines.

The Confluence alternates are fairly major, the two alternate versions are similar to each other, but quite different from the track heard on the album. Different melodic lines and all.

Tracks that I say unknown on are because I haven't identified them yet, but I will keep working on them, hopefully I'll figure them out. Otherwise that's the gist of it. Like I said, many of the tracks on the OST are complete without edits, which is nice.

Cue List/OST

01 1M1 Alt The Opening

02 1M2A The Story

03 1M2A Rev The Story

04 1M2A New - OST TRACK 1

05 1M3 Atmospheres

06 1M5 Where's My Sister? (Flute Version)

07 1M5 Alt Where's My Sister?

08 1M5A The Roofs of Hanachi

09 1M6 In Hatsumomo's Room

10 1M7 Off to School

11 1M7 New Off to School - OST TRACK 3

12 2M2 Staining the Kimono

13 2M2 New A Teasing - OST TRACK 4 0:00- 0:14

14 2M2B Approaching Mametta

15 2M2 B New - OST TRACK 4 0:14 - 0:25

16 2M2 C New - OST TRACK 4 0:26 - END

17 2M4 A House Called Tatsuyo

18 2M7 Finding Tatsu

19 3M1 On the Roof

20 3M1 New On the Roof - OST TRACK 9

21 3M1 New Insert

22 3M2 Letters From Home

23 3M3 The Chairman's Waltz

24 3M3X The Chairman's Waltz (Longer Version)

25 3M4 Chio's Prayer - OST TRACK 5

26 3M5 Enter Mamao

27 4M1 A Fresh Start

28 4M2 Mameha's Instruction - OST TRACK 6 micro edit in percussion soli

29 4M3 A New Name...A New Life - 0ST TRACK 13

30 4M6 Trip to the Sumo Match

31 5M1 Hatching Plans

32 5M3A The Doctor Won't See You

33 5M4 Do You Like Someone Else

34 5M8 The Cherry Garden

35 5M9 Discussing Nobu

36 6M1 Alt

37 6M2 Celebrate This Moment

38 6M3 Alt - OST TRACK 11

39 6M4 The Fire Scene - OST TRACK 14 0:00 - 3:21

40 6M5A The War Comes - OST TRACK 14 3:21 - END

41 6M5B After the War

42 6M5B After the War (Violin and Cello Version)

43 7M1A

44 7M5 Preparing for the Reunion

45 7M7 Beg Nobu's Plea

46 7M7 We Have No Choice - OST TRACK 12

47 8M1 The Hankerchief Scene (Flute Version)

48 8M1 Rev The Handkerchief Scene

49 8M1C Hankerchief Scene

50 8M1C Revised The Hankerchief Scene - OST TRACK 16

51 8M2 Entering the Garden (Flute Version)

52 8M2 C Entering the Garden (Cello Version)

53 8M3 Confluence

53 8M3 Rev Confluence

54 8M3 New Coming Together - OST TRACK 15

55 8M4 The Chairman's Waltz

56 Brush on Silk

57 Chairman's Waltz (Full Version) - OST TRACK 8

58 Chairman's Waltz (Violin Variations)

59 Sayuri's Theme - OST TRACK 17

60 Theme

As can be seen, there is a LOT of unreleased material...

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bowdown EXCELLENT work, Joe!!

This is great!

I'm sure you'll identify tracks 2, 7, and 10 in no time

If I may ask, what is the difference between 3m3 Chairman's Waltz, 8m4 Chairman's Waltz, and the unnumbered Chairman's Waltz?

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I'll have to check them again later, but from what I remember the main difference between them is the cuts/edit points. Other than that I seem to remember them being about the same, musically.

Edit:

So there really aren't any true differences, but the main ones are...

-8m4 Chairman's Waltz, after having the standard intro common in all the versions of this, picks up on the B section of the theme rather than beginning with the A section.

-The unnumbered Chairman's Waltz is simply the complete piece as heard on the soundtrack, the other versions seem to just be spliced together from this original, full version.

So really this is a case of a concert version of a theme being edited to fit different scenes in the film, though since these edits were done at the sketching phase one would assume that all the versions were recorded as their own cues rather than spliced together from one recording.

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Joey, did you have access to original manuscripts of the score? Your analysis looks very precise, great job.

I remember the FSM Podcast where the Kaplan brothers (who attended several sessions) explained Williams' modus operandi in this case. They said Williams previewed the cues for Rob Marshall before and then went on to modify/adjust a lot of parts at the director's request (sometimes only removing a solo line here or there, other times making some major rewriting). They also said that he was particularly precise at commanding various solo parts.

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Great analysis Joey! :) I really wish we had this gem of a score in full form even though the album offers a great rounded listening experience on its own. And of course we have the Suite for Cello and Orchestra which develops the original material in wonderful new ways to complement the OST. And on top of that we have the Williams/Ma piano/cello duets of Going to School, Sayuri's theme and A Dream Discarded.

@Manuel and Romão. It could be that the version of Chairman's Waltz performed by Perlman in the making of documentary is just a rehearsal where JW asked him to play in a decorative fashion, making the solo more "violinesque" as you say by altering the melodic line with small gestures. I seem to remember that Perlman says something to that effect in the documentary about being able to play in different styles on the spot. On the other hand it could be another alternate variation on the theme JW wrote. I would not mind hearing then entire score based on the info provided by the cue list and Joey. :)

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yes i also remember now what you say incanus, but you never know if they recorded it just in case... :)

It puzzled me a little because it sounded so different and it was as it was perlman's doing. WHere does the composer work end and the style of the soloist come?

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Not yet, to be honest I haven't taken the time to look at it since then, I'm busy right now with the semester winding down and graduation coming. If no one else identifies them then I'll have more time to do it once May comes around.

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I may also do a mockup on Finale of the alternate original version of Confluence, since it's simple enough. I don't have samples for ethnic instruments like the shakuhachi and koto, but those can be substituted with flute and guitar for the purpose of just presenting the music.

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So Joey have you figured out the last remaining OST tracks by any chance?

Anybody else want to add anything?

Track 2 of the cd is the combination of 2 cues.

1st half: almost like 1m1Alt Opening

2nd half: Theme (the last cue in Joe's list)

track 7 (1.50-3.13): 1m5A The roofs of Hamacchi with the addition of 3-4 bars in a certain spot

I'm working on the rest (although it doesn't seem to fit anywhere) & track 10

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Track 10: 7m5 + 5m8 (bar 4 - end)

So, now the only thing missing is the 1st half of track 7 and its end. Am I right?

oh, it seems you missed a cd track: 15 As the Water

But i doubt this was used in the film or that I can find a match.

I'll see into it in the next hours..

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Yes, I just noticed that Joe's post only lists 17 tracks from the OST, but it's an 18 track OST!


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OK, I've compiled your information with Joe's information into this list. Can you - or anyone else! - fill in the question marks??


01 Sayuri's Theme (01:31)

  • 1M2A New The Story

02 The Journey to the Hanamachi (4:06)

  • [0:00-?:??] = 1M1 Alt The Opening
  • [?:??-end] = Theme

03 Going to School (02:42)

  • 1M7 New Off to School [added percussion]

04 Brush on Silk (02:31)

  • [0:00-0:14] = 2M2A New Teasing
  • [0:14-0:25] = 2M2B New Approaching Mameha
  • [0:25-end] = 2M2C New

05 Chiyo's Prayer (03:36)

  • 3M4 Chio's Prayer

06 Becoming a Geisha (04:52)

  • 4M2 Mameha's Instruction [micro edit for about 6 bars of the percussion soli]

07 Finding Satu (03:44)

  • [0:00-1:50] = ???
  • [1:50-3:13] = 1M5A The Roofs of Hanachi
  • [3:13-end] = ???

08 The Chairman's Waltz (02:39)

  • Chairman's Waltz (Full Version) [recording bars 29- 32 do not match music, bars 79-114 cut]

09 The Rooftops of the Hanamachi (03:49)

  • 3M1 New On the Roof [not sure at this time whether it includes 3M1 New Insert as well]

10 The Garden Meeting (02:44)

  • [0:00-?:??] = 7M5 Preparing for the Reunion
  • [?:??-end] = 5M8 The Cherry Garden [bar 4-end]

11 Dr. Crab's Prize (02:18)

  • 6M3 Alt

12 Destiny's Path (03:20)

  • 7M7 We Have No Choice [possibly some micro edits]

13 A New Name... A New Life (03:33)

  • 4M3 A New Name...A New Life

14 The Fire Scene and the Coming of War (06:48)

  • [0:00-3:21] = 6M4 The Fire Scene
  • [3:21- end] = 6M5A The War Comes

15 As the Water... (02:01)

  • ???

16 Confluence (03:42)

  • 8M3 New Coming Together

17 A Dream Discarded (02:00)

  • 8M1C Revised The Hankerchief Scene

18 Sayuri's Theme and End Credits (05:06)

  • Sayuri's Theme

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Might As the Water... be the cue titled 6M5B After the War? I seem to remember hearing As the Water... in the scene in the film where the shot of the blood in the river transforms in to silk cloth and we see Sayuri washing the red cloth in the stream.

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oh, ok, i will fill in the exact timings in the cues i found later.

In the meantime you can add this:

track 7 (0.00-1.50)=3m5

and maybe 3.13-end is 1m3 with additions.

yeah, it seems As the Water is 6m5B! i will know more information later.. ;)

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Well right now we need somebody to post:

  • Where in track 2 "1M1 Alt The Opening" ends and "Theme" begins
  • If 3.13-end of track 7 is definitely 1M3 Atmospheres
  • If track 9 contains 3M1 New Insert or not
  • Where in track 10 "7M5 Preparing for the Reunion" ends and "5M8 The Cherry Garden" begins
  • If track 15 is 6M5B After the War or 6M5B After the War (Violin and Cello Version)

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track 2: (0.00-1.58) 1m1Alt /(1.58-end) theme (but really it begins some seconds earlier, the 2 cues crossfade.

track 10:(0.00-1.39)7m5/ (1.40-end) 5m8

well actually it's track 7: 0.00-1.43 (3m5)/ 1.44-3.04 (1m5A) and the rest unknown.. (or 1m3)

(i don't know why i wrote 3.13)

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