Quintus 5,399 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Ooo you're so quirky and different to the rest of us. bruce marshall and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Really? Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Yeah, you're a real character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,622 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 That's more like it. You're real quick, with the come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted December 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2020 I know what Drax is getting at with Spielberg's familial baggage. There are obviously many instances where it's great, but with so many instances of Daddy Issues, he can't hit it out of the park every time, and it eventually gets tiresome. CE wasn't offensive, but let's face it: Spielberg wasn't concerned with the family halfway through that flick and neither were we. Quint is absolutely right that WOTW family scenes were atrocious like the rest of that movie. It really began for me with Hook where Spielberg seemed to have lost his touch with the Father/Son/Family stuff. At that point, Peter Banning was a bad guy because he worked his ass off doing Mergers and Acquisitions to provide for his family and became angered when his kids were acting like crazy brats. You really got the sense that millionaire Spielberg had lived that cushy life too long and could no longer do the relatable family stuff. Some exceptions came along like CMIYC. Tallguy, Kasey Kockroach and Unlucky Bastard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 If you talk about things like giving the Neill character in JP an aversion to children- a cloying plot device- I agree. The other examples given R bull rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Alan Grant gave me the best line ever to use when people nag me as to why I haven't had kids yet. 2 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: I know what Drax is getting at with Spielberg's familial baggage. I mean how bad could he have had it while growing up that he felt the need to inject it into 20+ movies? Whether it was the usual daddy issues rah rah or domestic family spats where no-one understands the weirdo being weird. It's not like he grew up in poverty and struggled to survive. He sounds like a spoilt brat biting back at his his daddy for not buying him that pony when he turned sweet sixteeeeen. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 He's a genius- cut him some slack. They all have childhood issues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Oh yeah, maybe. But this guy... this guy... it might have been fine in one or two movies, but he's just relentless about depicting and recycling this shit over and over. Like, get over your sob story, grow a pair and stop being such a pussy! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I'm sure he really cares what YOU think....😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I don't expect him to. I just like yelling at the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 ...your Leader does alot of that also. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Godzilla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The family scenes in E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial feel wonderfully natural and spontaneous. Back then, I looked upon Spielberg as a director who can get exceptionally good and memorable performances out of kids. Holko and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I have to mute it during those scenes because I can't stand Elliot and Drew's high pitch squealing and shrieking. Heaven help anyone who actually lives with noisy pests like that. The family scenes in Poltergeist are nicer and friendlier. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I just sent a memo to SOB and TBG. In it I expressed my feelings about their Spielberg comments. Here is a photo. I predict that meme will get ALOT of use in the future.😊😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,622 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Wha'?! I don't understand this Luddite attitude, especially from JWfaners. As early as 1984, Spielberg started to move away from "kiddie-centric" flicks, and to start to introduce far more stronger male (one could argue "paternal") figures, in his films. He also made it up, with his pa, so that went some way to dispel the notion that he was anti-male. I disagree with (insert your name, here) about WAR OF THE WORLDS. The early scenes are wonderfully economical is setting up the family dynamic. "Confusing handshake?", "That's not how you're going to get through to him", turning the baseball cap 180° are all fine examples of the fractured relationship that the three principals have, with each other. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Oy, I just wanna see some Martians blowing shit up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,622 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (sigh) So simple the subduers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: about WAR OF THE WORLDS. The early scenes are wonderfully economical is setting up the family dynamic. "Confusing handshake?", "That's not how you're going to get through to him", turning the baseball cap 180° are all fine examples of the fractured relationship that the three principals have, with each other. YES! It's also refreshing that we don't think "boy, how did these two ever even get together, let alone have two kids", Otto and Cruise still have visible chemistry in the very little screentime they share. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,622 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 It's quite evident that they still have affection for each other, despite "Do you mind closing the door, because that's my refrigerator". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I thought those two had about as much chemistry as the parents in AI. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The relationship between Hanks and Rylance in Bridge of Spies is the only convincing, un-perfunctory Spielberg try at building an interesting and/or convincing human relationship in recent times (the same goes for Hanks and DiCaprio). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,411 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, publicist said: The relationship between Hanks and Rylance in Bridge of Spies is the only convincing, un-perfunctory Spielberg try at building an interesting and/or convincing human relationship in recent times (the same goes for Hanks and DiCaprio). THAT'S what I should watch this weekend. Still haven't seen it. IMHO - It's not the "family" stuff that went missing, it was how he shot it. And it wasn't just family life. He used to have a gift for narratively followable chaos. It's in Jaws and Close Encounters in many scenes with children and adults. Maybe if he had continued this stunt we'd be groaning about that old Spielberg cross-talk gag. But I don't really recall it in many (any?) of his later films. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Is cross talk even still a thing in movies these days? I miss it. Didn't realise how much actually till you said it. There's some great moments in Jaws too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Quintus said: I thought those two had about as much chemistry as the parents in AI. I can't accept this! Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,984 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, Tallguy said: that old Spielberg cross-talk gag. But I don't really recall it in many (any?) of his later films. I think there was a little bit of that in The Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: I can't accept this! Silly man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 A.I. is a Masterpiece. Monica is easily the greatest Performance in a Spielberg film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Especially that bit on the dunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Tallguy said: IMHO - It's not the "family" stuff that went missing, it was how he shot it. And it wasn't just family life. He used to have a gift for narratively followable chaos. It's in Jaws and Close Encounters in many scenes with children and adults. Maybe if he had continued this stunt we'd be groaning about that old Spielberg cross-talk gag. But I don't really recall it in many (any?) of his later films. That was the 70's (basically Robert Altman introduced it in MASH and was fired for it two years prior on Countdown). It's gone now (mostly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Bring it back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Hollyweird hates suburbia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 They really do. Bunch of coastal elitist arses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I live and work in suburbia bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 You guys and your bogus conspiracy theories! Hollywood has always romanticized the suburbs: The big ass freestanding houses, the beautiful trafficless tree lanes, the happy dog in the yard, carefree kids playing outside on their BMX bikes, the swimming pool, ... It's a place where it's always 'golden hour' and that aliens love to visit. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 They only do that when they're satirising it by exaggerating those features as if they're concealing something sinister beneath the surface. Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Tallguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,622 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, AC1 said: You guys and your bogus conspiracy theories! Hollywood has always romanticized the suburbs: The big ass freestanding houses, the beautiful trafficless tree lanes, the happy dog in the yard, carefree kids playing outside on their BMX bikes, the swimming pool, ... It's a place where it's always 'golden hour' and that aliens love to visit. ...but the suburbs have no charm to soothe the restless dreams of youth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, The Big Man said: They only do that when they're satirising it by exaggerating those features as if they're concealing something sinister beneath the surface. Don't believe everything Stranger Things is telling you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, AC1 said: Don't believe everything Stranger Things is telling you. I meant like Revolutionary Road or Pleasantville or whichever. Made by anti-suburb freaks who fled to Hollyweird and never shrugged off that chip on their shoulders. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The idyllic rooftops of 80s suburban America were a major part of early Spielberg iconography, as instantly attributable to the director's raison d'être as aliens and dinosaurs. When I was a kid, such scenery used to make me feel all warm inside. In the case of Poltergeist, Spielberg would use that to exploit the shit out of me. And for that I will always love him. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The homes and families in Poltergeist are as God intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 As a big city kid, i never understood the appeal. Suburbs are boring, except when weird things happen within them (cf Halloween, Poltergeist, ET, Goonies, nowadays Stranger Things or Super 8 and so on). For me they were a simple springboard for escapist entertainment, as which they are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Being boring makes them pleasant to live in! They're generally not noisy, not congested, it's easy to drive around because they're usually better planned than their older city counterparts, you get to live in your own entire building, you own your own parkland as your front and backyard, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Thanks you, Captain Obvious! bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Occasionally you need a dose of obvious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 hours ago, The Big Man said: They only do that when they're satirising it by exaggerating those features as if they're concealing something sinister beneath the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 It's also called drama, it's not like filmmakers have an obligation to portray boring suburbs without tension or conflict just because. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 No pic, Koray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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