Matt C 455 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The Social NetworkIt's like many of Fincher's films... it just leaves me cold and detached. Armie Hammer's twin characters are both annoying and fascinating, while Jesse Eisenberg's Mark Zuckerberg is both aloof and fascinating. And for all that hoopla for his performance that won him the Spider-Man role, Andrew Garfield is better here in this pic than he was in Amazing Spider-Man (but that's not saying much). Justin Timberlake's turn as Sean Parker is okay at best. Technically, it's very well-shot, paced and edited -- but this one of the most overrated films of 2010.Especially its Oscar wins... Joel & Ethan Coen deserved that Best Adapted Screenplay for True Grit or even the story staff for Toy Story 3. Aaron Sorkin's screenplay was good but not great. And Best Original Score... my ass. The Best Editing one was the only award that deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's not a warm, fuzzy film with sympathetic characters and a sugary soundtrack but the film had my full attention which is quite rare these days. I immediately classified it as one of Fincher's best.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'd say so too. It's Fincher in full control with his perfected style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I don't mind how the film is crafted and all. Everything is fine with it.But...It is simply not interesting.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I was amazed at how interesting the subject matter was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 How so?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Because the film really isn't about Facebook at all. But it is about success, and what the price of it is. And what it can do to friendships. All of this has been done to death in other movies, but way way this was written and filmed just appealed to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I don't mind how the film is crafted and all. Everything is fine with it.But...It is simply not interesting.I was amazed how much effort was put there, with many brilliant scenes by themselves, for a story that I found uninteresting at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Because the film really isn't about Facebook at all.But it is about success, and what the price of it is. And what it can do to friendships.All of this has been done to death in other movies, but way way this was written and filmed just appealed to me.Me too. I was amazed how that facebook dude went straight after his goal, sacrificing those who get in his way, even his best friend. Biopics usually are about adorable persons who chase the American dream but for this guy business always came first. I was also amazed with that pop star dude who played that music sharing dude. I thought he played the character with great poise. I was amazed with the overall storytelling. Great control, firmly paced and always interesting. I wasn't bored once. And finally, I was amazed with the photography (although, strickly speaking,it's a part of storytelling), but then again, it's Jeff Cronenweth (yes, the son of the great Jordan Cronenweth), one of my favorite working cinematographers.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I was also amazed with that pop star dude who played that music sharing dude. I thought he played the character with great poise.That pop star dude's a decent actor and all-around likeable guy.Who just married the oldest daughter from 7th Heaven. I hope she got to take it out of the box on their wedding night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I was also amazed with that pop star dude who played that music sharing dude. I thought he played the character with great poise.That pop star dude's a decent actor and all-around likeable guy.Who just married the oldest daughter from 7th Heaven. I hope she got to take it out of the box on their wedding night...good one Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Still he will never really get over Britney! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's not a warm, fuzzy film with sympathetic characters and a sugary soundtrack but the film had my full attention which is quite rare these days. I immediately classified it as one of Fincher's best.I was surprised. I was expecting a good but cold film, somewhat similar to Zodiac, which was certainly well made and interesting but failed to draw me in. But Social Network was actually really entertaining and despite its length never seemed to drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'd say so too. It's Fincher in full control with his perfected style.His style was perfect for The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo... beautifully put-together, well-acted, and well-edited. The Social Network looks like a made-for-TV film in some scenes... I don't know if that was the digital photography or the lighting in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Both. It does look shit, I agree. Unless of course you enjoy the sort of look and atmosphere found in hospital waiting rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I thought it looked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The race scene looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Liked the music for that scene. Very humorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I don't mind how the film is crafted and all. Everything is fine with it.But...It is simply not interesting.KarolYeah, this one. I have Facebook and use it occasionally, but the story of how it came to be just didn't interest me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Seeing Che (part one) (2008) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The film is not about Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The film is not about FacebookAnd that was clear before it was even released. In fact, I was surprised how many technical tidbits they managed to put in without distracting from the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think they could have ditched the Facebook name and fictionalized it more. They already made up things so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 What would have been the point?Anyway the job is a film maker is not being 100% factually accurate. His job is to tell a story in the most interesting way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 You're answering your own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Seeing Che (part one) (2008)Brilliant film. Possibly my favorite Soderbergh.As for The Social Network, the cinematography is absolutely gorgeous. Great use of brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Anyway the job is a film maker is not being 100% factually accurate. His job is to tell a story in the most interesting way.My dad said something similar when we walked out of The Passion of the Christ eight years ago, still sick to our stomachs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The race scene looks great.I agree, but that scene is heavily processed in post production or filmed with a special tilt-shift lens. It's how the popular 'miniature look' photos are achieved that people love to post on facebook. It's the only deliberately 'flashy' moment in the film. The rest of the film is low-key, naturalistic, yet elegantly composed while still maintaining Fincher's signature.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Paranormal Activity 4.I've never seen a cinema audience so strung up, but it was a fun experience. I'm loving the viral marketing set up for the just announced fifth film - check this out.Toby forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I thought Che part one was very good. I love the natural way it was made. I've wanted to see something like this for a while. With undramatism, showing a variety of characters. I'll see part two tonight.I don't think it was necesary to have the translator speaking so much in English over Del Toro's dialogue, however. I mean, there's much more people than just an English-speaking audience, and they would have already been seeing the rest of the film with subtitles.I also liked the map part at the beginning of the film (nobody ever thinks on that) and the song in the credits which I didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I've never done this before, but I want to thank George Lucas.I saw that Starcrash is available on Netflix, so I decided to stream it. I'm about five minutes in, watching its giant starship pan overhead from the foreground into the distance over a planet. Very much like the opening shot of Star Wars. In fact, it's a complete carbon copy of the shot. Except it feels totally wrong. When I watch the Star Destroyer chase Princess Leia's blockade runner over Tatooine, I "know" that I'm seeing a plastic assemblage of old model parts, but the sense of scale is incredible. It feels like a vast spaceship miles long, and I am humbled by its size and cinematography. Then I watch this spaceship in the opening sequence to Starcrash, and it's so clean, so simple, and moves so fast with jerky camera movements that I can't shake the feeling of watching a cheap toy filmed rather amateurishly. Subsequent shots are filmed at 90 degree angles from above and then re-used several times, with screen-filling explosions cutting between shots of clean spaceships darting all around the screen without explaining who is who. It's as if two years was not enough time for the filmmakers to make a really good copy of the Star Wars concepts.I turned it off. I can't watch that crap. No matter how attractive the pilot lady seems to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I've never done this before, but I want to thank George Lucas.I saw that Starcrash is available on Netflix, so I decided to stream it. I'm about five minutes in, watching its giant starship pan overhead from the foreground into the distance over a planet. Very much like the opening shot of Star Wars. In fact, it's a complete carbon copy of the shot. Except it feels totally wrong. When I watch the Star Destroyer chase Princess Leia's blockade runner over Tatooine, I "know" that I'm seeing a plastic assemblage of old model parts, but the sense of scale is incredible. It feels like a vast spaceship miles long, and I am humbled by its size and cinematography. Then I watch this spaceship in the opening sequence to Starcrash, and it's so clean, so simple, and moves so fast with jerky camera movements that I can't shake the feeling of watching a cheap toy filmed rather amateurishly. Subsequent shots are filmed at 90 degree angles from above and then re-used several times, with screen-filling explosions cutting between shots of clean spaceships darting all around the screen without explaining who is who. It's as if two years was not enough time for the filmmakers to make a really good copy of the Star Wars concepts.I turned it off. I can't watch that crap. No matter how attractive the pilot lady seems to be.I remember getting baked and watching it, and thinking it was the most incoherent piece of crap ever made.Then I saw it sober... and it was STILL the most incoherent piece of crap ever made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Skyfall.Karol alicebrallice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 And how was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 We watched Attack of the Clones the other night. It cannot be defended. Truly a piece of shit. Thoughts:- Performances are terrible all around, even Christopher Lee. I hadn't watched it in a while, I just remembered being more bored with his character than algebra. Totally underutilized actor. I realized this time that he certainly seemed to phone in his performance as well. His deliveries are the same as everyone else. What I mean is, it seems as though Lucas gave little direction to the actor, filmed one take and then moved onto the next scene. Plus, his character just stinks. His plan to defeat Yoda was to toss a pipe at him? Why does he tell Obi-Wan the truth about what's happening? What is his motivation, is he like a mole inside the dark side? Inevitably, it doesn't end up mattering at all because he dies within a minute of his introduction in the next movie. So what the hell is the point?- The best performance in the movie is probably the voice actor of the prime minister, who has a minute of dialogue, if that.- The designs of everything in this film are terrible. It rarely feels anything like Star Wars to me.- The movie sure looks bad. The CGI is pretty awful and a total waste of computers. It ends up looking like a cartoon. The actors always look pasted onto fake backgrounds.- The plot is nonsensical. Assign the 20 year old kid with emotional problems to Natalie Portman. 15 minute chase scene from slugs, jumping out a window over a massive abyss to getting a dart that leads to the clone planet. What? We looked up Sifo Dyas and what the deal with that guy is. It's a complete waste of dialogue in the film. It could simply have been established that Count Dooku ordered the clone army and also formed the separatist army, engineering the war for the Emperor. What we found via Wookieepedia is that Sifo Dyas was a real Jedi who was manipulated by the dark side to order a clone army and then killed. This is completely unnecessary.- Random stupid line: "A clone army and one of the finest we've ever created." So, this is like a normal thing for these aliens on this planet to create clone armies? It seems it would be pretty easy to just show up there with a fortune, breed an army and then take on the Republic.- Planet of bugs who hold gladiatorial matches with monsters in an arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The arena monsters look like they were designed by Bandai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Oh, also the idea that Yoda is frequently right next to the Emperor and can't sense that he's Sith. The whole idea that the "dark side clouds everything." Eh, I don't know. My buddy compared it to Gandalf standing next to Sauron and not realizing he's fucking evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 We watched Attack of the Clones the other night. It cannot be defended. Truly a piece of shit.It still amazes me how everything feels wooden and forced in this film (all the prequels, actually) while in Star Wars and Empire everything feels natural and spontanious, as if we are talking about two different directors (well, you know what I mean).The Treasure of Sierra Madre (1948):The biggest surprise of the movie is that the main character (played by Humprey Bogart) is a son of a bitch. The gold doesn't change the man, it simply amplifies the traits. 6/10Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Apart from the impressive duel in TPM, the prequels never made me either care, or get exited about what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 And yet, they are easily watchable. Strange, ins't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 And what's wrong with algebra? I miss easy maths like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 And yet, they are easily watchable. Strange, ins't it?Yeah like you can easily watch an episode of NCIS. Doesn't mean it has any real quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 And yet, they are easily watchable. Strange, ins't it?Speak for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 And yet, they are easily watchable. Strange, ins't it?Yeah like you can easily watch an episode of NCIS. Doesn't mean it has any real quality.Really? I can't watch NCIS for 3 seconds. I hate it!Terminator Salvation is on. This is much worse than Prometheus, fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 You get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Of course, we all know it's not the quality of the scripts or the performance of the actors that makes it easy to watch. No matter how bad it gets, something still makes it intriguing ... but what? The Star Wars universe? John Williams? What?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Intriguing how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The prequels make me want to punch my own face with a hedgehog's arse, if that's what intriguing means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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