filmmusic 1,842 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 This is one of 3-4 movies in my entire life that i stopped watching in the middle..(or more specifically in the 1st half hour in this one)And I don't like doing this. At all..Idiot!Yes, i know I'm an idiot that i don't generally stop films in the middle.I should have done it in more!(ps.: i got it [your characterization], but tried to use it in my favour! )I think it's time to revert to my old signature, which said something about being more polite in the internet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 Stardust takes a while to get going, yes. And Alien³ might be an attempt at something heavy, but it just falls flat in the end. A masterpiece this is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Hmm, that's a surprisingly thoughtful post, Stefan. KarolAre we sure it isn't satire? My radar did tingle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I consider all of Stiff's posts to be satire. I thought everyone did the same. Apparently not.I try to speak his language. Not Dutch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Hmm, that's a surprisingly thoughtful post, Stefan. KarolDon't patronize you, you silver tongued turd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 All it requires is a bold and ridiculously unrealistic statement ending with an exclamation mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Preposterous !In dutch: Belachelijk !Hard language to master indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Indeed! Even Belgians can't speak it properly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 We speak flemish, which is something else entirely and may not be considered a language in the true sense of the word, just a dialect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It requires one to understand the playful intent of the satirist. I use it on my friends and it's funny to see how they take these statements so seriously, especially if it's political in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (part 2 of my pre-Interstellar viewings)The Right StuffA wonderfully comedic take on the origins of NASA. Irreverent, maybe, but its hyperboles are founded in something. The "aw shucks" culture of the 50's, the US government's nigh-incompetence, the media frenzy, the absurdity of some of the physical and technological testing, and the whole machismo of the men themselves are all amusingly dialed up to 11 - but again, how far a stretch this is from the truth is questionable. But regardless of that, this is obviously also a tribute to an immense achievement, and the film doesn't neglect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 You should not use Stiffon lightly. It is a dangerous language that has to be spoken with caution.It's too tempting. The dark side it has led me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (part 2 of my pre-Interstellar viewings)The Right StuffA wonderfully comedic take on the origins of NASA. Irreverent, maybe, but its hyperboles are founded in something. The "aw shucks" culture of the 50's, the US government's nigh-incompetence, the media frenzy, the absurdity of some of the physical and technological testing, and the whole machismo of the men themselves are all amusingly dialed up to 11 - but again, how far a stretch this is from the truth is questionable. But regardless of that, this is obviously also a tribute to an immense achievement, and the film doesn't neglect that.Glad to read your appreciation of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I've still never seen that film, I need to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Alien³Now this is boring. Covered in drab dullness, the movie takes itself waaaaaay too seriously. There's not a glimmer of a smile to be found in the picture, the characters are all unsympathetic and the action - while resulting in considerably more bloodiness than in the previous two pictures - takes place mostly off-screen. Man, what a dud. Bah humbug!Alien³ is a broken masterpiece which uses the 5 stages of grief (denial and isolation, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance) as a leitmotif for Riplesy's tragic journey as a women who's fate has been entirely dictated by either the Beast, or the soulless company that wants the Beast.Weaver is supported by a brilliant cast of character actors, in a film set in the hellish atmosphere of sci-fi Gothic architecture and decayed steam-punk.Fincher wisely eschews the one-dimensional gung-ho action of Cameron's film, which would have taken away from the story, which is essentially an almost Shakespearean tragedy.Sadly because the film was taken away from Fincher it doesnt live up to it's full potential. But even in it's marred form(s), it is gripping, thoughtful and daring stuff.That's for that hilarious claptrap. Fincher screwed it up then the studio screwed it up. Never should have been given the go. Alien the Beginning. ALIENS, the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Nah, technically the studio screwed it up first. The couldn't make up their mind what film they wanted. They hired a director who left (Harlin). Then they hired another one and fired him (Ward). But the sets were already been built, the script was non-existent and the release date kept getting closer. Yeah, they wouldn't consider changing that. And that's when, at the 11th hour, Fincher comes in. And studio keeps undermining him. No wonder he complete disowned this. Having said all of that, Sigourney Weaver is absolutely amazing in this. Far cry from the wooden performance of first Alien. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Can you show me one review of the 500 that have been written and that describes Weaver's performance in Alien as wooden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Well, "merely functional" is a better description.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Sure, here it is. Nah, technically the studio screwed it up first. The couldn't make up their mind what film they wanted. They hired a director who left (Harlin). Then they hired another one and fired him (Ward). But the sets were already been built, the script was non-existent and the release date kept getting closer. Yeah, they wouldn't consider changing that. And that's when, at the 11th hour, Fincher comes in. And studio keeps undermining him. No wonder he complete disowned this.Having said all of that, Sigourney Weaver is absolabsolutely amazing in this. Far cry from the wooden performance of first Alien.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Only at JWfan!No really, the acting in Alien3 is too swollen compared to the more natural and subdued style of Alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Alien the Beginning. ALIENS, the end.This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,842 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (part 2 of my pre-Interstellar viewings)The Right StuffA wonderfully comedic take on the origins of NASA. Irreverent, maybe, but its hyperboles are founded in something. The "aw shucks" culture of the 50's, the US government's nigh-incompetence, the media frenzy, the absurdity of some of the physical and technological testing, and the whole machismo of the men themselves are all amusingly dialed up to 11 - but again, how far a stretch this is from the truth is questionable. But regardless of that, this is obviously also a tribute to an immense achievement, and the film doesn't neglect that.Had seen this film some months ago I think. (or a year)I found it too long, and I don't remember anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Alien the Beginning. ALIENS, the end.ThisJust Alien for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 (part 2 of my pre-Interstellar viewings)The Right StuffA wonderfully comedic take on the origins of NASA. Irreverent, maybe, but its hyperboles are founded in something. The "aw shucks" culture of the 50's, the US government's nigh-incompetence, the media frenzy, the absurdity of some of the physical and technological testing, and the whole machismo of the men themselves are all amusingly dialed up to 11 - but again, how far a stretch this is from the truth is questionable. But regardless of that, this is obviously also a tribute to an immense achievement, and the film doesn't neglect that.Had seen this film some months ago I think. (or a year)I found it too long, and I don't remember anything...Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Alien the Beginning. ALIENS, the end.This Just Alien for me.Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It's a two movie series, like Jaws. It's not The Matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Alien = 9/10Aliens = 10/10So yes, the sequel is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ridiculous!Alien = 10Aliens = 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Both 10/10 films for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ridiculous!Alien = 10Aliens = 8Alien 3 out of 4. ALIENS 3.5 out of 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ridiculous!Alien = 10Aliens = 8Preposterous (belachelijk) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Weaver gives an Oscar worthy performance in the 86 film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Definitely... the way her character evolves, how she takes charge of the situation, her caring for Newt as her would-be daughter. Exemplary performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ridiculous!Alien = 10Aliens = 8ALIEN = 9/10ALIENS = 4/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 You must be joking??? So Aliens is basically a mediocre run of the mill B-style flick?Ludicrous ! Heresy ! Yes I'm a Cameron-nut and not afraid to admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 And there they are again, walloping in the same old shit again and again and..................... Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Only on JWfan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ridiculous!Alien = 10Aliens = 8 ALIEN = 9/10ALIENS = 4/10Alien = 9/10Aliens = 6.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,842 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Alien = 9/10Aliens = 10/10So yes, the sequel is necessary.I would agree..Although really, we can't compare them.They are different in style etc..We can compare eg. Die Hard 1 & 2 because they are both the same (action films), but with the Alien films it's more difficult.The first film is slowly paced, more claustrophobic horror sci-fi.The second one is more action-oriented and has more of everything.. (more people, more aliens, more places, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Only at JWfan!No really, the acting in Alien3 is too swollen compared to the more natural and subdued style of Alien.Why does it need to be natural? Or subdued? It doesn't fit the third film.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Ridiculous!Alien = 10Aliens = 8 ALIEN = 9/10ALIENS = 4/10Alien = 9/10Aliens = 6.5/10idiotic scoring. Both films have stood the test of time and the latter might be one of the most quotable films of all time. Both are true classics in every sense of the word. Jay and Quintus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Alien 5/5Aliens 5/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Both films have stood the test of time and the latter might be one of the most quotable films of all time. Both are true classics in every sense of the word. Agreed. Alien 5/5 Aliens 5/5 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Weaver gives an Oscar worthy performance in the 86 film.What I like about her in all the films (yes, all four) is that she really grows and changes. It's not like Ripley is the same character in each film. And it is also because of her that I can't ever really hate any of those.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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