Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 36 minutes ago, Denise Bryson said: Out of Africa Long, and sometimes drawn out, but probably fitting for the desolation of the location. It's got that civilised-urban-girl-meets-man-of-the-wilderness vibe to it like 'Crocodile' Dundee or Medicine Man. Best bit is when Meryl Streep fights a lion. Feels like something David Lean might have made. "Meryl Streep fights a lion" Sorry, Jerry, but I don't remember seeing that in the film. 15 minutes ago, Denise Bryson said: Lovely score! I've had it on CD for nearly 30 years (It's one my parents bought and I just took it and added it to my own collection), but I hadn't seen the film until today. So...you steal from your mater and pater. The 5th and 8th Commandments mean anything to you? Hmm. So that's how it is, in their family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Meryl Streep's part should never been taken by Michael Douglas in the sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Especially when they were after Sean Connery. Now, what a difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, Richard said: "Meryl Streep fights a lion" Sorry, Jerry, but I don't remember seeing that in the film. Yeah it was the bit where she was transporting her cattle and her camp was attacked by a family of lions and she fought one of them off while it was munching on a cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 That was Jaws The Revenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Come and get me, you sonnofabitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Was there any scaffolding in Out of Africa? I can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Barry provided in the more waggly sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 And the lion roar sound effects were identical to the Key Master and Gatekeeper roars in Ghostbusters. Ouija Fucking awful. Was about to switch it off except I liked the main girl, who was also the oxygen tank chick from Bates Motel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, Denise Bryson said: Ouija Fucking awful. Was about to switch it off except I liked the main girl, who was also the oxygen tank chick from Bates Motel. Selina will know what he'll watch tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Captain Underpants: The First Movie - Surprisingly quite creative and very entertaining. - 7.5 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Larry Crowne. Not great, but certainly not bad either. Yes, it was corny at times, but when Julia Roberts and especially Tom Hanks are the main actors, I really can't care too much about that. Even though Hanks trying to act cool was rather irritating, he remains one of my favourite actors because he's just so versatile. He delivers every line perfectly. George Takei made me laugh several times and Julia Roberts 'under the influence of the demon rum' was quite entertaining too. I really, really liked most of the songs and the score perfectly suited them as well, though it took an awful long time before I heard any of James Newton Howard's music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Today was a remembrance holocaust day for many nations so I watched Schindler's List. It doesn't fail to move me every time. Every man owes to himself to see it at least once. And the score... I've come to the personal conclusion that it's the best dramatic score ever written! Hope we have an official release of the complete score this year, on it's quarter of a century anniversary! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Before Sunrise - 9 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 8 hours ago, filmmusic said: Today was a remembrance holocaust day for many nations so I watched Schindler's List. It doesn't fail to move me every time. Every man owes to himself to see it at least once. And the score... I've come to the personal conclusion that it's the best dramatic score ever written! Hope we have an official release of the complete score this year, on it's quarter of a century anniversary! I wish I could delete the "I could have done more" scene though. It's the thorn in the side of an otherwise good Holocaust movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: I wish I could delete the "I could have done more" scene though. It's the thorn in the side of an otherwise good Holocaust movie. huh? It's in that scene that I cry my eyes out! I guess you think it's too manipulative of emotions, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I didn't know anyone had a problem with the scene until I got the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Together with the score it makes for a painful 5 minutes (and not for the right reasons). But after three hours, Steven has deserved himself a bit of leeway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Spielberg only slipped once, but still, it wasn't necessary to go overboard. A 'goodbye' like this belongs in E.T., not Schindler's List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Though he probably rightly estimated there are more guys like filmmusic than Alex Cremers'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I dunno about that. People who refuse to watch movies that are made after the year 2000 are pretty rare, IMO. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Denise Bryson said: I didn't know anyone had a problem with the scene until I got on JWFan. Slight correction. Although don't forget, Alex has issues with emotional stuff, so he always hits out when he feels he's being manipulated by a movie in that way. The scene in question is fine, mainly because it was earned at that point. Its a great film, although I rate it fairly low down the list in the overall Spielberg oeuvre. He's made many other movies which I get far more out of. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Quintus said: Slight correction. Although don't forget, Alex has issues with emotional stuff, so he always hits out when he feels he's being manipulated by a movie in that way. The scene in question is fine, mainly because it was earned at that point. Its a great film, although I rate it fairly low down the list in the overall Spielberg works. He's made many other movies which I get far more out of. I see that trailer with the Exodus music by Kilar and I wish the movie was more like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, publicist said: Wut? He was referring to me. I've said many times that I watch only old films, and not newer, post-2000. (of course there are exceptions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The Killing Of A Sacred Deer It's better than The Lobster but, be warned, it still makes no sense. 6,5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: I wish I could delete the "I could have done more" scene though. It's the thorn in the side of an otherwise good Holocaust movie. In one of Spielberg's biographies, "I could have done more" is meant to be symbolic of all those who wanted to help, but couldn't. According to his (then) wife, he thanked everyone politely, got in the car, and drove off, but that wouldn't make for good cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Although Williams swirls the strings a little in the background there, I still find the music quite muted and restrained, by this composer's standards. It stays classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 You don't need to overstate emotions in order to make good cinema, Richard. To me, it was so over-the-top and melodramatic that the scene lost all its strength. Sometimes less is a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 It's a slightly off note in an otherwise brilliant film. It really doesnt diminish my opinion of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Then again, it's not the end of the world. To this day, my bafflement of the idyllic Hamptons final scene of Minority Report not ending with a countershot of Tom Cruise dreaming in his cold modern flat remains unsurpassed. It was all laid out for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Agreed, it's a different kind of movie. Schindler's strengths doesnt really depend on it's ending to the degree a sci-fi/crime movie like MR would have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Spielberg is famous for his 'soft' endings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 His endings were fine in the 70's and 80's. Only after no one got Empire Of The Sun did he start doing soft endings. It's the fault of the critics and audience that Spielberg stopped taking creative risks Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Loved this ending ... Especially the last shot is wonderful, the calm of the beach ... (But it should be seen with the music, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Why wouldn't it be a real ending for some people? Kull: Skong Island Much more stylised and entertaining than Godzilla '14. Hopefully the rest in the series are more like this and build on its strengths. And faaarrrk that Brie Larson is sexy in this. I like her in that green Captain Marvel outfit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I forgot to delete that statement when I included the first pic, which is probably the real ending for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Loved this ending ... Especially the last shot is wonderful, the calm of the beach ... (But it should be seen with the music, of course) Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, publicist said: Then again, it's not the end of the world. To this day, my bafflement of the idyllic Hamptons final scene of Minority Report not ending with a countershot of Tom Cruise dreaming in his cold modern flat remains unsurpassed. It was all laid out for that. That would be too much of a cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 No. Just Philip K. Dick's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Deathgasm Kiwi flick about metalhead teens who summon a demon through heavy metal music. Funny, corny and even a bit sexy. Loved it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, publicist said: No. Just Philip K. Dick's story. But still, in the time between the publication of Dick's short story and Spielberg's adaptation the dream ending had probably become even more of a cliche than in already was. Sometimes changes have to be made to keep stories interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: But still, in the time between the publication of Dick's short story and Spielberg's adaptation the dream ending had probably become even more of a cliche than in already was. Sometimes changes have to be made to keep stories interesting. True, but then Spielberg should have changed the way the Martians died in WOTW. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Agreed. A lot of things should have been changed in that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Not really, it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I'd say it's one of his weaker films, much due to the bad script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The scenes in the house are nailbiting. Tim Robbins made an effective creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 It's one of those Spielberg movies where he no longer knows how to create characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Tom Cruise is actually miscast in that. He was fine in Minority report, but this film needed the Spielbergian everyman. Was Tom Hanks busy? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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