Thor 7,521 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 He wrote a fanfare for him as well as music for the presidential coverage during the Atlanta Democratic meeting back in 1988.There are quite a few clips from this event on youtube, and I've bored my way through them all -- but I haven't found any of his music. Only stuff like "Stars and Stripes Forever" (or whatever it's called) and other American anthems. And Williams' regular news music for NBC.But no fanfare and no other music.Has anyone heard this stuff?? Or has any more info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 That's one of the things we're waiting for, actually. If King Mark never heard it then there are slim chances it is out there.Now where is Miguel when you need him! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 As I'm a pretty hardcore collector myself, I think I'm pretty much up-to-date on other hardcore collector's JW collections too, but I've never met anyone who owns this. Not even Miguel or Markus Hable or anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Considering Dulakis' diminuative size, im sure JW usef his Jawas music from Star Wars as a basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 This is a curiosity holy grail for me. I doubt the music will give me goosebumps or anything, but I'd love to hear how he approached it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I know Dukakis lost and everything, but the man has his own John Williams theme! Not a theme for a character he played in a film, like Harrison Ford, or Mark Hammil. Michael Dukakis has his own fanfare!Why else has this, only Prince Philip, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I never heard it, not even a MIDI mock upit's one of the last Williams mystery themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm looking at the piano reduction score as I write... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Were missing 2 fanfares in orchestral recording form (bootleg or legit recording)This and Fanfare for Ten Years Old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Fanfare for Ten Years Old is also available in piano reduced format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I heard it, but I have trouble imagining a full orchestral version with just a Piano reduction or a Midi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I heard it, but I have trouble imagining a full orchestral version with just a Piano reduction or a MidiLike modern Hollywood producers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It's hidden in Area 51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,554 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 "When it comes to America, Dukas is der real Terminator". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm looking at the piano reduction score as I write...Wanna play it for us, like that guy on youtube did with Fanfare for Ten-Year-Olds? I'm extremely curious about this cue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yeah, Thor, I can understand what you suffered through! I have beenscanning all existing youtube files of the Atlanta 1988 convention myself.Without finding a note of Williams or at least a mention of the performanceitself."Fanfare for Michael", as it was called back then, must be about 2 1/2 min.long. It was performed by a 35-piece orchestra and conducted by BostonPops assistant conductor laureate Harry Ellis Dickson, at the fourth andlast day of the National Democratic Convention in Atlanta, on Thursday,July 21, 1988. It was performed just once, and served as a prelude to theappearance of Dukakis in the final hours of the convention.Which narrows down the period pretty well. Unfortunately, I couldn't findit, yet. An amateur audio recording, if it existed, would have emerged inthe past 23 years, I suppose. But I can't imagine that NO CAMERA TEAMon location was filming the thing. And if the speech was so super important,it must have been aired on tv. And somebody must have taped that.My educated guess is that the day we receive the VHS-crate from the estateof Harry Ellis Dickson (who died in 2003, aged 94), and the very minute weopen that crate, it will contain just sand. And then all hell breaks loose andwe will all burn, shrink, melt and explode - just because we were so damnsnoopy.Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 He, he...yeah.I've heard a MIDI reduction for this now, but just as "Fanfare for 10-year-olds", I'd REALLY like to hear it in a full orchestral treatment, the way it's supposed to be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I just heard that there is a crisp, pristine orchestral copy out there.Problem is: It's located inside a black hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Well hopefully these last 2 fanfares will be re-recorded as part of compilation c.d.'s like we got recently for Fanfare for prince PhilipThese are basically the 2 we never heard fully orchestrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I did some looking around recently to see if this had made it online, but no luck.But I did find a little info from the NBC archives. Unfortunately, you have to register to access the video there, and you have to request it for business use, and all that stuff... but they at least provide info on the broadcast. Apparently the performance was followed by Olympia Dukakis' speech, a video, and then Michael Dukakis' speech (which is viewable at C-SPAN). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I just heard that there is a crisp, pristine orchestral copy out there.Problem is: It's located inside a black hole.Yes, along with his symphony and STORIA DI UNA DONNA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie 1 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Exactly!Please join me on my JFK thread:http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21354I need your input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Go to the very end of this video (the Clinton speech at the 88 convention): Could that be the beginning of the ever-elusive Williams fanfare playing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Nope, that's not it. And I've heard that march before, in some other context.On an unrelated note, is Arkansaw's flag based on the Confederacy's flag???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yeah, I guess it was too much to hope for. Since they played "Chariots of Fire" in the opening, it was probably some other famous march at the end. Maybe Sousa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Yeah, I guess it was too much to hope for. Since they played "Chariots of Fire" in the opening, it was probably some other famous march at the end. Maybe Sousa.It's Strike Up The Band by George Gershwin. Here's a snippet of the John Wilson Orchestra performing it at the Proms a couple of years ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Plus, it looks like the Clinton speech was from the day before the fanfare performance.EDIT: Um, guys? I've found it.Repeat: I've found it. Thor and indy4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Damn, why is it so difficult to find the footage for that performance when there is so much from the Atlanta convention on Youtube?Also, I was under the assumption that the fanfare was used for the TV coverage of the event (akin to his NBC music)....but that doesn't seem to be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaismine 64 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Plus, it looks like the Clinton speech was from the day before the fanfare performance.EDIT: Um, guys? I've found it.Repeat: I've found it. I was just about to post the same thing!! Now only if it would stop buffering and I could actually listen to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wow, excellent job Kendal! I cannot believe it was on CSPAN this entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Great find indeed! It sounds very much in line with his NBC News music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 This is an historic day for JWFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaismine 64 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wow, excellent job Kendal! I cannot believe it was on CSPAN this entire time.It wasn't. C-SPAN must have uploaded additional footage from the convention within the past year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wow, excellent job Kendal! I cannot believe it was on CSPAN this entire time.Well, I looked all over C-SPAN a while back. It must have been digitized since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Hooray! Thank you so much, Kendall.Now let's see if we can record it somehow (does it start midway in the piece?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I just realized that the link I found today and the one I posted a year ago point to the same clip. But I know when I posted it before, it was just the speech. Someone at C-SPAN must be looking out for us!Now let's see if we can record it somehow (does it start midway in the piece?).It does start abruptly, doesn't it? Sounds like it's still probably the beginning. Would've been nice to have the intro, but oh well. (I did check the ends of the other clips for it, but no dice.)I see somebody already made a clip of the fanfare. Good for them, because for the life of me I couldn't get the clip thing to work. However, it looks like it cuts off the first couple seconds. But then when I preview it for MP3 download, it was fine. So I went through with the whole download process. A little tedious—iTunes it ain't. But once I got the MP3, I found out it does cut off those first few seconds. I see I could contact them about it. Seems like a lot of trouble for 2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaismine 64 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I just realized that the link I found today and the one I posted a year ago point to the same clip. But I know when I posted it before, it was just the speech. Someone at C-SPAN must be looking out for us!Now let's see if we can record it somehow (does it start midway in the piece?). It does start abruptly, doesn't it? Sounds like it's still probably the beginning. Would've been nice to have the intro, but oh well. (I did check the ends of the other clips for it, but no dice.)I see somebody already made a clip of the fanfare. Good for them, because for the life of me I couldn't get the clip thing to work. However, it looks like it cuts off the first couple seconds. But then when I preview it for MP3 download, it was fine. So I went through with the whole download process. A little tedious—iTunes it ain't. But once I got the MP3, I found out it does cut off those first few seconds. I see I could contact them about it. Seems like a lot of trouble for 2 seconds.Funny enough, I emailed them last year when this thread was first posted to ask if they could upload the fanfare, and the response I got was basically "we've uploaded everything we have, search harder".And that's my clip you found, unfortunately I couldn't find any way to start a clip right at 0:00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 I recorded an mp3 of it. It's available for 7 days here:Fanfare for Michael Dukakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Thank you very much for finding this (and Thor for the mp3)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I recorded an mp3 of it. It's available for 7 days here:Fanfare for Michael DukakisStupid question... but how to I save the mp3 file into my hard drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 I recorded an mp3 of it. It's available for 7 days here:Fanfare for Michael DukakisStupid question... but how to I save the mp3 file into my hard drive?Click the button that says "Download file". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 It opens a player... and when I try to save the file I only get a 4 kb one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,521 Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Really? Anyone else having the same problem?I'll send it to you in private, Miguel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 You press the green "download file" button below the url.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I did press the green button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Did you check your recent download list on your browser?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Of course. At best I get a 4kb large file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Wow Michael Dukakis must be hell of a guy to earn such a piece. Enormous thank you Thor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Great find!! Thank you!!There's another rendition of the theme with a faster tempo and different intro at the end of the convention (around 01:44:50). Unfortunately the voice-over blows our only chance of getting a clean recording of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I really want to thank everyone involved finding this piece..! I also have a problem downloading the file. If anyone could send it to me: much appreciated..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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