Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 mehPassage down, 4 same notes, in the same key? airmanjerm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 78 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Anybody figured out why the track list on the official movie page has 22 tracks, but the last few are from "War Horse?" Did I miss something? http://thelincolnmovie.com/?soundtrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 That was mentioned earlier in this very thread. Just some weird mixupYou could probably make a 2 disc set of the two, mixing all tracks, and you wouldn't lose any flow. seems, that Sony has exactly THAT version planned for release!!http://www.thelincol...com/?soundtrackScroll down.....there's a 22track Version of the Lincoln soundtrack....... airmanjerm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 That's a pretty big mixup. Does no one proof read web pages before making them live any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 78 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 That was mentioned earlier in this very thread. Just some weird mixupOh wow, I look through the thread and missed it. Funny they would make that mistake, even funnier is that it's still there after that much time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The Elegy theme doesn't appear in the film, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 My favourite theme is definitely With Malice Towards None.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 My favourite theme is definitely With Malice Towards None.KarolDo you remember when the theme is used in the film? I thought it was only as Lincoln refuses to wear the gloves at the end, and of course during his 2nd inaguration and the end credits, but the FYC has it listed as the third track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The film opens here by the end of this month.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The film reels are almost molded when they will enter here in the periphery. Or is it all digital nowdays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The film opens here by the end of this month.KarolAh okay, I see. Anybody else remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I was watching Malcolm in the Middle and I heard this,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_w7RGqN7kgIt's eerily similar to "With Malice Towards None". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yeah, somebody mentioned that awhile ago (I think it was Alan?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hi everyoneHave you watched this ? I didn't come across it until today and it's really a terrific clip - you'll see John Williams talking about his work for the film:http://dreamworkspicturesawards.com/#clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Your link doesn't show any Williams clip. Can you relink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmanjerm 78 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Your link doesn't show any Williams clip. Can you relink?Not sure if this is what Jamie had tried linking to (or if this is posted elsewhere - I looked, but there's a LOT of pages...), but here's a panel discussion from the creators and actors from "Lincoln." JW is at the end of this clip, last five minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 That's the clip. Well found and thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Thanks for sharing guys! I was pretty surprised when JW said the movie contains "fantastic music," lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Indeed, I thought he'd lost all sense of modesty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Did anybody else notice the grunt at 4:33 in "Freedom's Call"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Does it sound like: "Grumble, grumble, harrumph, harrumph"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Does it sound like: "Grumble, grumble, harrumph, harrumph"?Was I at the sessions?! I can't remember being there! Damn my befuddlement! Grumble, harrumph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'm sure we'll see you in the Blu-Ray bonus features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'm sure it was Hans Zimmer deliberately coughing. Reports have surfaced of him terrorising Williams' recording sessions and sneakily adding synth overlays. Many Orchestrators died to bring us this information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Since the BBC thread seems to be attracting little interest, here is a tidbit from it. Williams confirmed that he is writing a ceremonial piece for the 150th anniversary of the Gettysburg Address, to be performed June 6. Given the subject matter, one might wonder how close in spirit the piece will be to the Lincoln score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I hope it's another Air and Simple Gifts arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 We already have 2 of those. I'd order something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think a cool piece for the ceremony would be a sort of hybrid between the melodic lines of the Lincoln soundtrack with the style of say, Back to America from Angela's Ashes. But I am most happy that Williams continues to write these sorts of pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I hope it's as good as Fenfare for Fenway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I just added a film cue list of the score to my Lincoln review in the Reviews Section and also figured out what music heard on the OST can also be heard in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Hi everyoneBack in October 2012, Moviescope magazine in the UK printed an interview / feature article I was commissioned to write for them about aspects of the career of sound designer Gary Rydstrom.This article has now been archived online (just today) and you can read it here. In the interview Gary Rydstrom mentions JW and so I hope it's of interest and that you enjoy it.http://www.moviescop...ticking-clocks/Dream well!JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Congrats on the article Jamie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks very much, Indy4. It was a real treat being able to conduct that interview. You can check out some other interviews I've done right here: http://www.moviescopemag.com/features/rick-mccallum-reach-for-the-sky/http://www.moviescopemag.com/features/return-of-the-j3di-putting-star-wars-into-the-3d-universe/If it's of interest, I'm working on a book at the moment that I was able to interview George Lucas for.All the bestJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 just wanted to post this here too, in case you missed it in the other thread that I posted it ( http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22652 ) :small music analysis of Lincoln in case anyone is interested (of course, not mine):http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2013-john-williams-score-for-lincoln/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 For anybody interested, my Lincoln analysis (written in December but published with the DVD release) has just been published at FSM Online:http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/fsmonline/main.cfm?issueID=98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Before we forget all the wonderful music nominated this year for the Academy Award move on to the "next sensation"in the wake of the ceremony, I'd like to take one last chance to encourage my FB friends--- particularly my musician friends--- who have not had the time to listen CLOSELY to Lincoln, to do so. Every note, every choice is a jewel. I'm reminded of one of my teachers in Germany who advised: "Music should be simple-- but NOT simple minded!" John's score is a model of elegance, simplicity, and beauty-- something to treasure, as it is so different from our simple minded Zeitgeist. Please listen--closely--if you haven't already!- Conrad Pope Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 A small lovely tribute from Mr. Pope to JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 He perfectly summed up why I love the score so much too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Apparently Daniel Day Lewis attended the scoring sessionshttp://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=94656&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaismine 64 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Here's the whole article: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118065786/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Awesome, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangoisbaddest 1 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Just listened to the whole OST. Love it. Definitely some heavy Copeland influence. In fact, the motif for the first track is note-for-note stolen from Appalachian Spring! But also, of course, heavy influence from A Lincoln Portrait. Still, it has a Williams twist to it (in particular, I heard some of his JFK score in here). Some great bluegrass stuff, too! Can't wait to see the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Yes the opening 4-note motto that starts the People's House track is a nice homage to Copland or stolen which ever way you want to think about it. And this music is just about as steeped in the sounds of Americana as a Williams score gets so I guess Copland hints are inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 It's not like that's the first time Williams has referenced Copland's four note motif. It pops up now and then in his Americana work, like in Amistad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 It isn't a Copland motif any more than a rising arpeggio is a Haydn or Mozart motif; it's simply a piece of musical glossary that we associate with Americana (and other things in other contexts). It pre-dates Copland by hundreds and probably thousands of years.Coming back to the thread: I have to say I was very much taken with how Williams had elaborated on his "Lincoln" score in the three selections I heard last Wednesday in Boston. Especially "Getting Out the Vote" has become an entirely new and different piece, colorful and energetic with lots of motivic development. Drastically changed harmonically, the original material is now super-imposed on swirling clustral/bi- and polytonal figures (a little reminiscent of textures found in the harp concerto as well as in many of his more recent film scores), and imbued with a playfulness that is wonderfully vital and vibrant.Also "The People's House" and "With Malice Toward None" were significantly embellished, the former with new woodwind doublings in the introductory bars, the latter with a quite extensive obbligato cello part. Incanus and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Thank you for the info on the concertitzed pieces from Lincoln Marcus. I have been intrigued how has the Maestro expanded and embellished, as is his wont in concert setting, his musical materials from the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieC 13 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Hi there MarcusThanks for elaborating on JW's elaborations of the Lincoln material for live performance.Is my understanding correct: the music that we hear in the movie itself is more fully 'realised' for its presentation on the soundtrack album release of last year ? Thanks so muchJCThe Films of Pixar Animation Studio to be published October 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 It isn't a Copland motif any more than a rising arpeggio is a Haydn or Mozart motif; it's simply a piece of musical glossary that we associate with Americana (and other things in other contexts). It pre-dates Copland by hundreds and probably thousands of years.I dunno, the orchestration is pretty similar--I think Copland uses both solo clarinet and solo oboe, which is how JW begins the motif. There's also the raised top note--Copland ups it to a different degree that Williams I think, but they both alter the melody in a similar way. The harmonies are also different, but they change on the same notes. The subject matter, the other strong Copland influences throughout the work and Williams' acknowledgements that he really respects Copland confirm these similarities. JW takes the motif to significantly different places later in the piece, but I don't think there's any doubt that without Appalachian Spring, "People's House" would be significantly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Just heard the online broadcast of the Lincoln pieces. I think the concert versions are fabulous. The People's House with the extended trumpet solo is excellent. The performance was problematic, but a good version would rival the sublime nature of Born on the Fourth. Getting out the vote was indeed different; my goodness it was different. Clearly a labor of love by Williams to produce a concert-worthy version of an already excellent piece. With malice toward none was layered, nuanced, and brilliant. That was the one piece on the OST that I thought could use a longer arrangement and this version delivers. I will need to re-listen was the concert once available, but initial impressions are that Williams has delivered a three-movement suite that will be performed for years to come as an original contribution to Americana music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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