Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'll take two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 323 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'm pretty happy with this, assuming it is correct. One only needs to look at the Nlu-Ray release of Bambi to know that they are excellent when it comes to film restoration and presentation. Of course it remains to be seen if Star Wars will feature Disney FastPlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Disney's track record in film restoration is a bit patchy. The Aristocats is one I've got where the video has been significantly noise reduced.However Tron and The Rocketeer both look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 323 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Unfortunate. I'll have to see what the balance of their efforts are. They do have the right talent available to them, I hope they use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 BTW the article did get the term wrong for the visual effects. They said "sfx" which is actually "sound effects" as we know. VFX is for visual effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I thought SFX stood for special effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 The 1997 version no longer exists!It should be restored and released on Blu ray!It's such a mess. There are many people who would rather just have the original Special Edition versions. Despite their many setbacks (as I view the changes), they weren't as ruined as the versions that came after, with prequel Anakin's head appearing as the hitchhiking ghost, Boba Fett ADR, aliens from The Phantom Menace all over Return of the Jedi, blinking Ewoks, awkward prequel Emperor scene in Empire, awkward Vader "No!" scene, "deliberate creative" alterations to the score, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 So, now, we like the 1997 Special Editions? We're making progress!Maybe if Episode VII is really bad, people will say things like: "In retrospect, the prequels were not THAT bad... Jar-Jar is actually quite a funny character!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 So anyway, does this prove that Lucas is a liar? What a lovely fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 So which version will he deemed as canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 His Blu-Ray version will be G-canon. The 2004 DVD releases will be considered C-Canon. The 1997 SE's are then S-Canon and these new upcoming original version will be N-Canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Ah, it all makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 20th Century Fox still owns the rights to the first film so who knows how this will all play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Disney's track record in film restoration is a bit patchy. The Aristocats is one I've got where the video has been significantly noise reduced. However Tron and The Rocketeer both look great. I don't think you can compare them. You may still argue whether heavy noise reduction is appropriate or not for hand drawn animation, but at the very least the parameters are different to live film stock where the noise is already on the raw material, so to speak. You can make a good point about the look of animation being "intended" to be as close as possible to the actual drawn material, and that the noise is only byproduct of photographing it. Plus you have more freedom with noise filters because they don't necessarily corrupt the picture's details. I for one appreciate mostly noiseless animated classics, as long as they don't go overboard and cripple the actual drawings (which is why I never picked up the Blu of Sword in the Stone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 It seems like every second week there's a new story about how these cuts are coming and there's never a shred of proof. I don't really care anyway, I'm more than happy with the 2011 Blu-rays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Disney's track record in film restoration is a bit patchy. The Aristocats is one I've got where the video has been significantly noise reduced.However Tron and The Rocketeer both look great.I don't think you can compare them. You may still argue whether heavy noise reduction is appropriate or not for hand drawn animation, but at the very least the parameters are different to live film stock where the noise is already on the raw material, so to speak. You can make a good point about the look of animation being "intended" to be as close as possible to the actual drawn material, and that the noise is only byproduct of photographing it. Plus you have more freedom with noise filters because they don't necessarily corrupt the picture's details. I for one appreciate mostly noiseless animated classics, as long as they don't go overboard and cripple the actual drawings (which is why I never picked up the Blu of Sword in the Stone).These days, some people are hellbent on eradicating any evidence that something was exposed and captured on film. I just want new HD releases to be as true to the source as possible. Many do this well, some do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 But with animation Marians argument certainly has validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 In general I don't mind noise if it's not excessive, but I also don't usually mind noise reduction as long *as it leaves the main image intact*. After all, having noise was rarely a purely artistic decision and rather a technical necessity. Of course, too many releases wildly overdo the DNR and ruin the image. With "non live action stuff", I lean more towards noise reduction (again, provided that the image stays intact). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Why should an animated film warrant digital noise reduction any more than a live action film? I'd like an accurate representation of what audiences initially saw projected on screen. It should look like a film, not a Flash video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Why should an animated film warrant digital noise reduction any more than a live action film? I'd like an accurate representation of what audiences initially saw projected on screen. It should look like a film, not a Flash video.You mean with all the scratches and dirt? They are present in film projection from day one, you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Drax won't be happy until he's got a 37 year old reel wired up to his Sony Trinitron 28". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Yada, yada, yada, ... I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here who didn't buy the Blu-ray set of the Star Wars franchise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 The only time I bought Star Wars on home video:Widescreen VHS versions in the mid 90'sThe Phantom Menace on VHSThe 1993 Star Wars Trilogy Laserdisc set (bought that twice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I've never personally spent money on Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 The only time I bought Star Wars on home video:Widescreen VHS versions in the mid 90'sAs I mentioned earlier in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I bought the nineties VHS release, it was ace but I lost it ages ago. Never bought another copy of the trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Heck, I never even watched the SEs, just portions of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I watched the SE's in the cinema.I actually though I had bought TPM on DVD also, but I can't find it in my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I bought a used copy of the last VHS set released before the Special Editions were made. My family bought me a full frame VHS set of the Special Edition. Steef's post reminded me that I do own the individual DVD releases of the Prequels, but they are in storage. Blu-rays of the prequels have no appeal to me. With the Despecialized version, I have no reason to buy a legitimate DVD or Blu-ray set of the OT until the original presentations are cleaned up and presented in a similar fashion, and if this story is true, I have some time before deciding how to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Why should an animated film warrant digital noise reduction any more than a live action film? I'd like an accurate representation of what audiences initially saw projected on screen. It should look like a film, not a Flash video. You mean with all the scratches and dirt? They are present in film projection from day one, you know...Smart arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Why should an animated film warrant digital noise reduction any more than a live action film? I'd like an accurate representation of what audiences initially saw projected on screen. It should look like a film, not a Flash video. You mean with all the scratches and dirt? They are present in film projection from day one, you know... True. Before my usual theatre switched to digital, most films were half destroyed on day one already. What I want to see is an accurate representation of what was intended when the film was made. I've never been involved in making an animated film, but I'd expect they draw their frames the way they expect them to look (plus some post processing), and the noise is just a necessary but basically unwanted byproduct of the photography process. Yada, yada, yada, ... I'm pretty sure I'm the only one here who didn't buy the Blu-ray set of the Star Wars franchise! I bought the box last December in Amazon's Christmas sale. It's the only version of the films I ever bought, and after watching the SEs in 97, I'd seen the OT exactly once more, on TV (the SEs of course), cropped and dubbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I only ever watch the GOUT. Hoping Walt will produce a version that will replace that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 If you lived in a civilized country, in the Northern hemisphere, you could have downloaded the despecialized versions.Instead you are stuck with the GOUT, and surrounded by deadly spiders, snakes and crocs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I can't download them because my internet is too slow. And even if I technically could, the federal government would probably have me arrested because of its newly proposed data retention legislation. Also, slow internet for the masses works in this government's favour because Rupert Murdoch would prefer everyone pay to have Foxtel than be able to stream online. Hence the significant scaling back on the NBN since the election of the Abbott government last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Too much rich food. You're gonna have really sore feet if you don't watch your diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Must be the prawns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Prawns are gross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 You are no Aussie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I can't eat seafood of any kind. And don't get me started on fish with bones in it. Whenever someone decides to feed me that shit, I spend more time picking the bones out than actually eating it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What about Kangaroo meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 It's very tender. Had it once about 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 And have you had Wallalongabonga snake meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I've bought what the restaurant told me was a kangaroo burger, it was very tasty, but a $15 burger (before beer) is a once in a while meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 They have kangaroo jerky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Prawns are gross!Beautiful day. Sweetie, where are you going? You'll ruin your appetite. We're having prawns, your favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Why should an animated film warrant digital noise reduction any more than a live action film? I'd like an accurate representation of what audiences initially saw projected on screen. It should look like a film, not a Flash video. You mean with all the scratches and dirt? They are present in film projection from day one, you know...Smart arse.Thanks sweetie, but it was a honest question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Prawns are gross! Beautiful day. Sweetie, where are you going? You'll ruin your appetite. We're having prawns, your favorite.I don't like prorns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Darling, don't wander off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 For god's sake, leave her alone, Deidre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Are you a bird or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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