#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 And ANH needs a scene with Palpatine in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Maybe Disney should release a "make-your-own-montage-of-Star-Wars" kit as everyone has now his "perfect" Star Wars in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 We need Palpatine dissolving the Senate. And maybe a "force" conversation between Ben and Yoda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 And the line of Leia saying she remembers her real mother will need to be altered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think this discussion is now in a galaxy far far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 A typical TFN discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 TFNfan.com? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,830 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 My name is George Lucas. I am a writer, director, and producer of motion pictures and Chairman of the Board of Lucasfilm Ltd., a multi-faceted entertainment corporation.I am not here today as a writer-director, or as a producer, or as the chairman of a corporation. I’ve come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected.The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created.A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as “when life begins” or “when it should be appropriately terminated,” but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race. These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tomorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with “fresher faces,” or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor’s lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new “original” negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste.I accuse the companies and groups, who say that American law is sufficient, of misleading the Congress and the People for their own economic self-interest.I accuse the corporations, who oppose the moral rights of the artist, of being dishonest and insensitive to American cultural heritage and of being interested only in their quarterly bottom line, and not in the long-term interest of the Nation.The public’s interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work.There are those who say American law is sufficient. That’s an outrage! It’s not sufficient! If it were sufficient, why would I be here? Why would John Houston have been so studiously ignored when he protested the colorization of “The Maltese Falcon?” Why are films cut up and butchered?Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.I hope you have the courage to lead America in acknowledging the importance of American art to the human race, and accord the proper protection for the creators of that art–as it is accorded them in much of the rest of the world communities.http://www.slashfilm.com/george-lucas-speaks-altering-films-1988/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 George is speaking out against present and future generations modifying films that they didn't create in the first place, but which entered the public domain after the original copyrights expired, when the original filmmakers couldn't stop it. George's alterations to the original Star Wars trilogy do not count because a) at the time, he still owned the rights to edit those films, and b) in his mind, even after VHS and laserdisc copies were watched millions of times, these were unfinished work print versions, which he was able to fix to his heart's content over several years. In his defense, his comments in 1988 didn't brand him a hypocrite in 1997.#DESPECIALIZED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/08/16/exclusive-original-unaltered-cut-of-star-wars-trilogy-to-be-rele/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 More money people will throw at those movies. How many copies must some people own now? It's farcical. I might buy Star Wars though. It'll be the fourth time I've bought a movie from the franchise - after buying the original trilogy on VHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 It should have mono/stereo/70mm sound mixes, including the original voice of Aunt Beru! Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 More money people will throw at those movies. How many copies must some people own now? It's farcical. I might buy Star Wars though. It'll be the fourth time I've bought a movie from the franchise - after buying the original trilogy on VHS.I wont spend another dime on these. Even if we finally get a proper legit release. I'll download it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I'd only buy Star Wars for posterity reasons I reckon. It'd probably sit on the shelf unwatched for a few years, I've seen it a lot recently on TV as it is. E.T. only got opened this week.Not really bothered about ESB and RotJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Pity, because TESB is the best of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I wouldn't worry about The Empire Strikes Back. The changes made to this one actually make sense and are mostly minimal.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I completely disagree. Some of the changes made to the "Hyperspace" scene all but ruin the climax for me. Those unused ROTJ shots they inserted are horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Most redundant changes ever, and they even actually weaken the effectiveness of the climax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Changing Emperors is pretty silly too. The other changes are fairly harmless. but like Lee said. That climax is ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Well, that one thing is mostly useless. But things like Wampa, and Cloud City work fine. And I was referring to the 1997 version, so the Emperor was still old.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The 1997 version no longer exists!It should be restored and released on Blu ray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 12 posts and not a single positive comment... I wonder what would happen if this was bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 After the SE's and the Prequels, and the EU people are really suspicious.Can you blame us?We have been lied to so much man! It hurts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Sure, but what are you suspicious about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 That the news might be bogus. That Disney will screw it up. What if they release Star Wars without the original mono track? What if the alien subtitles arent in the correct font? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 What if the colours are messed up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 If this is true: Sold. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 That the news might be bogus. That Disney will screw it up. What if they release Star Wars without the original mono track? What if the alien subtitles arent in the correct font?I wont spend another dime on these. Even if we finally get a proper legit release. I'll download itContradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Sure, but what are you suspicious about now?"Joe Comicbook" doesn't exactly sound like a real person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 That the news might be bogus. That Disney will screw it up. What if they release Star Wars without the original mono track? What if the alien subtitles arent in the correct font? I wont spend another dime on these. Even if we finally get a proper legit release. I'll download it Contradictory.How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Because first you accept the possibility of the release being perfect, and suddenly become suspicious about it.And Alan, I know it's a rumor. But none of the 12 posts I mentioned questioned the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Ricard, ill only accept a possible legit release as perfect if Neil S. Bulk tells me it is.Even then i wont buy or, or only second hand. I paid 150 euro's on the laserdiscs alone, just to get the non SE versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I paid 150 euro's on the laserdiscs alone, just to get the non SE versionsI know... I got the DVD-Rs from you 12 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I have an unopened lazerdisk of Star Wars and no machine to play it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I have an unopened lazerdisk of Star Wars and no machine to play it in#firstworldproblems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I have 2 players, biatch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 12 posts and not a single positive comment...Another sucker ready with his spondoolies for umpteenth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 What happens when every lazerdisk player on earth is broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Nothing, because we have HD now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Instant buy for me. I did not buy the recent blu-ray release because of all the problems/changes, I was, in a way, holding out for this. I hope the announcement is legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I'll believe it when it's actually released. When it does happen I'll buy it too. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 12 posts and not a single positive comment...Another sucker ready with his spondoolies for umpteenth time.Not really. Not counting the original theatrical releases, I only paid for the trilogy once (first widescreen VHS releases). And it is good news since it'd be one step closer to the 4K release, which is the one I'm really interested in right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I own the original unaltered trilogy on laser disc as well! I didn't pay a lot though, maybe $30 or so. Got them used on ebay. Had plans to buy a laser disc player and make rips, but never got around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I made LD rips...in 2003.Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I feel nostalgic for a time when our responses to this kind of news were mostly positive.Thankfully we have the Facebook page now:https://www.facebook.com/JohnWilliamsFan/posts/716113638460126 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I too skipped the blu-ray because of its various problems and in fact, I've never purchased the original trilogy in any format. If the unaltered set really is coming, it'll be a day 1 purchase for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Some of the changes made to the "Hyperspace" scene all but ruin the climax for me. Yep. The cuts to the music completely ruin the buildup for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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