The Train Station 8,499 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 And now even Dr Okun is gay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,220 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Yes, the weirdest character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,499 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Independence Day: Stonewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,305 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Disco Stu said: And I'm sure Rowling intends a degree of universality where many different kinds of people can identify. Nah, I don't think she ever gave a fuck. (Although she does have a slight interest in the idea of racism and class conflict) And frankly it's weird to ask people who won't naturally come up with gay romance, subtext or interesting love stories to suddenly do that. It's not their thing and it will suck. Artists tend to need genuine interest and investment in what they're doing. I could, however, get away with writing gayness and transness. That's funny to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 974 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 http://www.premiere.fr/Cinema/News-Cinema/Rian-Johnson-a-bien-caste-Joseph-Gordon-Levitt-dans-Star-Wars-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, toothless said: http://www.premiere.fr/Cinema/News-Cinema/Rian-Johnson-a-bien-caste-Joseph-Gordon-Levitt-dans-Star-Wars-8 Google's auto-translate of the headline John, Bilbo, Will and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 974 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 You gotta be kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,828 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 About time! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,658 Posted September 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2017 SlashFilm editor/reporter mentions reactions he's heard from people who have seen The Last Jedi Quote Almost everybody I've talked to has really enjoyed it. Lucasfilm is supposedly over the moon with it. The singular thing that I hear from everybody is that it's different. And it's going to probably not sit well with some Star Wars fans. It's going to be divisive. One person I know that has seen the movie messaged me after this news came out saying that he's happy that J.J. Abrams is coming on because he, you know, didn't like some of the choices that Rian Johnson went with. So take that for what it's worth. Bilbo, crumbs, Will and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,722 Posted September 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: One person I know that has seen the movie messaged me after this news came out saying that he's happy that J.J. Abrams is coming on because he, you know, didn't like some of the choices that Rian Johnson went with. So take that for what it's worth. So it's different/weird enough to upset hardcore fans and not just the safe Guardians of the Galaxy brand of different-weirdness? Great news!! Bilbo, John, Will and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 You don't know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,722 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: You don't know that! Of course. I'm just guessing given the context of the quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,230 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Huh. These comments sound very exciting, although I'm a little perplexed at how Lucasfilm could be "over the moon" over a divisive film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,308 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 How "divisive" could it really be if Johnson hasn't lost his job yet? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 TBF, TFA is pretty divisive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,230 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: TBF, TFA is pretty divisive.... Yeah, you're right. I guess you could say that basically any film is fairly divisive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,313 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Divisive and challenging are often very different things. Twin Peaks latest season was both, though Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I definitely don't want Star Wars to be challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,313 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Nor do I. But I would like it to be bold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,658 Posted September 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2017 One thing that makes me optimistic about Johnson is just the variety of influences he's been name-dropping over the course of promotion so far. Quote Twelve O’Clock High was a big touchstone, for the feel and look of the aerial combat as well as the dynamic between the pilots. Three Outlaw Samurai for the feel of the sword-fighting, and the general sense of pulpy fun. And To Catch A Thief was a great film to rewatch, for the romantic scale and grandeur. Other movies he's mentioned feeding into his VIII prep include Kill!, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Gunga Din, The Letter Never Sent....just seems to be a curious, worldly fella who might have wanted to make a curious, worldly film. His previous work points towards that. Also makes me wonder what's in store for the music since on past films he's mentioned influences like Anton Karas's Third Man score, Ennio Morricone, and Tom Waits for Brick, Nino Rota and The Band for Brothers Bloom, and of course Looper had a lot of "found music" from household appliances synthesized into electronic sounds and rhythms. I mean, pretty much everything but "traditional" scores and John Williams. At the same time, he's made clear his excitement about working with our man, so you wonder where the taste overlap might be. What are his favorite Williams scores? I bet it wouldn't just be limited to Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Doesn't seem like somebody who would just ask John Williams for the usual stuff for every cue. I mean, writer/directors should be interested in lots of things. That's what makes them interesting! It helps enhance their self-expression. Part of my frustration with a talented guy like JJ Abrams is that his mantra often seems to be "I love Star Wars/Spielberg/M:I and I'm going to make a movie about THAT which is all about how much I love THAT!" TFA was a good Star Wars movie mostly about how much JJ Abrams loved Star Wars. Whenever he talked about the movie, he kept referring back to A New Hope. He did also mention rewatching Seven Samurai, The Searchers, and The Tree of Life at one point and they might have helped in different ways, but he didn't necessarily give much indication as to why other than they're great movies. At the risk of sounding snobby, they are sort of solid "established" picks...ultimately you can't help but wonder how deep his well of cinematic inspiration really goes outside of genre fare. The proof is sort of in the pudding, anyway. Same with music....I can tell that he likes John Williams, which seems to be a factor in why he likes Michael Giacchino. And I know he likes the Beastie Boys. What else in this wide world inspires him? It's hard to tell from the films. Not Mr. Big, Will and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Train Station 8,499 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 He needs to take more inspiration from Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,230 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 7 hours ago, mrbellamy said: One thing that makes me optimistic about Johnson is just the variety of influences he's been name-dropping over the course of promotion so far. Also makes me wonder what's in store for the music since on past films he's mentioned influences like Anton Karas's Third Man score, Ennio Morricone, and Tom Waits for Brick, Nino Rota and The Band for Brothers Bloom, and of course Looper had a lot of "found music" from household appliances synthesized into electronic sounds and rhythms. I mean, pretty much everything but "traditional" scores and John Williams. At the same time, he's made clear his excitement about working with our man, so you wonder where the taste overlap might be. What are his favorite Williams scores? I bet it wouldn't just be limited to Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Doesn't seem like somebody who would just ask John Williams for the usual stuff for every cue. I hope that's the case! Maybe he'll ask for some minimalist influences a la A.I.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,750 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The Joseph Campbell stuff needs to go away. People trot it out to look smart. Really the Hero With A Thousand Faces is so vague it can fit any story. It's not as groundbreaking as people make it out to be. He was also a boring writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,828 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Waiting for a Star Wars movie director who is inspired by Borat, honestly. The Train Station 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: The Joseph Campbell stuff needs to go away. People trot it out to look smart. George Lucas most of all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,750 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: George Lucas most of all! I don't think he pushes it that much actually. He mentioned it a few times and people ran with it. Its usually the first port of call for people to explain why they didn't like a Star Wars book/comic/film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 As someone who taped and repeatedly watched the public television documentary The Mythology of Star Wars as a kid, his Campbell stuff just seems more prominent to me: http://billmoyers.com/series/the-mythology-of-star-wars-with-george-lucas-bill-moyers-1999/ Some clips: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 143 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Myth analysis is important, though. I think it's important to remember that Star Wars is popular because it's freedom fighters versus fascists with wizards in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,364 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 You mean terrorists versus a legitimately elected Government! http://epicstream.com/news/Star-Wars-Episode-IX-Released-Date-Moved Date moved to December 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,933 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 This is the episode 8 thread, Steef. That's an article about Episode 9, and of course the date move has already been posted there (twice, actually) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Cremeritis!! (did I do that right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,540 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Cremeritis!! (did I do that right?) You can't do it wrong. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,364 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,230 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Will said: I hope that's the case! Maybe he'll ask for some minimalist influences a la A.I.? Just remembered that Johnson said a while back that the temp track was 95% SW music (and all JW). If that temp track really represents his vision of the score, then I don't think we'll be getting anything too unusual here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 974 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 10 hours ago, Will said: I don't think we'll be getting anything too unusual here. Usual Williams Star Wars is fine for me crumbs and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,230 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, toothless said: Usual Williams Star Wars is fine for me Oh, definitely. I'll be nothing less than ecstatic if we get that. But I'd be even more excited if we get surprised with something different (as long as it's good too, of course!) With Abrams coming in to do Episode IX, this is Williams' last time ever working with a director he has never worked with before. As I see it, it's our last chance to hear a "new" sound from the maestro. toothless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just wait for that source music, Will. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,374 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 14 hours ago, Will said: Just remembered that Johnson said a while back that the temp track was 95% SW music (and all JW). If that temp track really represents his vision of the score, then I don't think we'll be getting anything too unusual here. Didn't we get that kind of thing in AOTC already anyway? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,679 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The real question is whether the bizarre casino waltz source music will make the OST. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,230 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 3 hours ago, crocodile said: Didn't we get that kind of thing in AOTC already anyway? Karol Are you saying that AOTC was innovative? (Not that I necessarily disagree, I just never thought of it as such) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The Coruscant Chase cue was certainly very "un-Star Wars" at the time. Still pretty unique in the saga. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,750 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: The Coruscant Chase cue was certainly very "un-Star Wars" at the time. Still pretty unique in the saga. And its brilliant! I love it! Disco Stu and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: And its brilliant! I love it! I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,750 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: I agree! I worry though that Johnson or Abrams wouldn't encourage a piece like that because it isn't very Original Trilogy. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: I worry though that Johnson or Abrams wouldn't encourage a piece like that because it isn't very Original Trilogy. I'm fine either way. I don't think the crazy Coruscant cue is inherently "better" than OT action music. I like both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,750 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: I'm fine either way. I don't think the crazy Coruscant cue is inherently "better" than OT action music. I like both. I'm not saying one is better than the other but JW doesn't really do the OT style action music anymore. Although, the Rathtars was pretty PT sounding now that I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 http://screenrant.com/star-wars-8-rian-johnson-prequels-trilogy/ Seeing that Johnson has defended the prequels before, I doubt he'd disallow Williams from composing anything "prequel-esque" in his score for the film. Overall, many aspects of we've seen from The Last Jedi so far are somewhat reminiscent of Episodes I-III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,750 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, JohnSolo said: http://screenrant.com/star-wars-8-rian-johnson-prequels-trilogy/ Seeing that Johnson has defended the prequels before, I doubt he'd disallow Williams from composing anything "prequel-esque" in his score for the film. Overall, many aspects of we've seen from The Last Jedi so far are somewhat reminiscent of Episodes I-III. True, the casino stuff reminds me very much of a mix of TFAs new aliens in the Outlander club from AotC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: True, the casino stuff reminds me very much of a mix of TFAs new aliens in the Outlander club from AotC. Indeed, minus the flat-screen TVs behind the bar featuring soccer played by droids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,364 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Only human beings can play soccer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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