KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 It's as you said, kind of disjointed. Would have benefitted from a single composer (whether it be Silvestri or Elfman).I really liked the opening, with Elfman's catchy ostinato and new theme. And his theme for the Scarlet Witch gets a nice workout. Tyler's stuff blends in well with the action, and aside from his somewhat generic motif for Ultron, there was nothing really exceptional on his end.But as many of you have already pointed out, the score is sadly undermixed. There were a couple of statements of Elfman's theme that were on the OST, but were buried under a lot of noise. Also, would have been nice to hear the theme shine louder during that big final 360 slow-mo Avengers shot at the church (like the one in the first film). Silvestri's theme is tracked in a couple of places, but it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Overall, the film is not as Downey Jr heavy as I thought it was going to be.What I'm actually thinking about now is what the hell are they going to do after Infinity War? I mean, this is as big as Marvel gets...Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He seems to have gotten the spirit of it.Like KK I do worry about these films needing to get bigger and bigger. What more is there then the Universe, Spock?Yep. After Infinity War, they're gonna have a hard time making things bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I really like Elfman's theme. but because it;s not heard much in the film, and Silvestri's is reused verbatim several times it has almost no presence in the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He seems to have gotten the spirit of it.Like KK I do worry about these films needing to get bigger and bigger. What more is there then the Universe, Spock?As far as I know, Cap/Stark conflict is not more developed because... it wasn't a set up for Civil War. The decision to make that film came later.KarolIt felt like an extension of their rivalry in the first film. If anything Stark was let off a bit easy in this film.Yeah, I thought something pretty bad was going to happen, but then Thor just pops out of nowhere and BAM it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Also, would have been nice to hear the theme shine louder during that big final 360 slow-mo Avengers shot at the church (like the one in the first film). Silvestri's theme is tracked in a couple of places, but it worked.That's still about the only time you hear the music properly.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,379 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 As I discussed over in the spoilers thread for AAOU, I think once Infinity War is over and the 2020s begin, the landscape of superhero films will be different, plus a lot of the OG MCU stars will want to move on to other projects. I think the Phase 4 MCU films will focus on other superheroes than Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, and Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He seems to have gotten the spirit of it.Like KK I do worry about these films needing to get bigger and bigger. What more is there then the Universe, Spock?Yep. After Infinity War, they're gonna have a hard time making things bigger.Anyone else familiar with the comics? Apparently they lose the Infinity War, the Universe gets destroyed, and some external identity pieces it back together deus ex machina style. Does that sound right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 As I discussed over in the spoilers thread for AAOU, I think once Infinity War is over and the 2020s begin, the landscape of superhero films will be different, plus a lot of the OG MCU stars will want to move on to other projects. I think the Phase 4 MCU films will focus on other superheroes than Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, and Thor.Oh yes, of course. That's how Marvel works. But then, I was talking about "getting bigger". I mean, there's hardly anything bigger in this universe than the Infinity Gauntlet stuff.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Anyone else familiar with the comics? Apparently they lose the Infinity War, the Universe gets destroyed, and some external identity pieces it back together deus ex machina style. Does that sound right?That's more or less it, yes.If you want to know a bit more:Thanos basically kills (all?) the Avengers, but Gamora manages to take the Infinity Gauntlet from him an resets everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He seems to have gotten the spirit of it.Like KK I do worry about these films needing to get bigger and bigger. What more is there then the Universe, Spock?Yep. After Infinity War, they're gonna have a hard time making things bigger.Anyone else familiar with the comics? Apparently they lose the Infinity War, the Universe gets destroyed, and some external identity pieces it back together deus ex machina style. Does that sound right?Yes and no.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Also, would have been nice to hear the theme shine louder during that big final 360 slow-mo Avengers shot at the church (like the one in the first film). Silvestri's theme is tracked in a couple of places, but it worked.That's still about the only time you hear the music properly.KarolI agree, but the main melody doesn't pop up till later in the sequence, which was a questionable decision. Silvestri's take on the scene was admittedly more effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,379 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 As I discussed over in the spoilers thread for AAOU, I think once Infinity War is over and the 2020s begin, the landscape of superhero films will be different, plus a lot of the OG MCU stars will want to move on to other projects. I think the Phase 4 MCU films will focus on other superheroes than Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, and Thor.Oh yes, of course. That's how Marvel works. But then, I was talking about "getting bigger". I mean, there's hardly anything bigger in this universe than the Infinity Gauntlet stuff. Karol Agreed. But by 2020, maybe general audiences will be sick of "huge" superhero films, and will be happy to enjoy "smaller" Phase 4 films. Maybe Phase 4 won't even have an Avengers entry! Just a bunch of solo films for a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Anyone else familiar with the comics? Apparently they lose the Infinity War, the Universe gets destroyed, and some external identity pieces it back together deus ex machina style. Does that sound right?That's more or less it, yes.If you want to know a bit more:Thanos basically kills (all?) the Avengers, but Gamora manages to take the Infinity Gauntlet from him an resets everything.Oh boy. And this is happening over 2 films?Maybe the superhero craze will just die down after that? *fingers crossed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 As I discussed over in the spoilers thread for AAOU, I think once Infinity War is over and the 2020s begin, the landscape of superhero films will be different, plus a lot of the OG MCU stars will want to move on to other projects. I think the Phase 4 MCU films will focus on other superheroes than Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, and Thor.Oh yes, of course. That's how Marvel works. But then, I was talking about "getting bigger". I mean, there's hardly anything bigger in this universe than the Infinity Gauntlet stuff.KarolAgreed. But by 2020, maybe general audiences will be sick of "huge" superhero films, and will be happy to enjoy "smaller" Phase 4 films.Maybe Phase 4 won't even have an Avengers entry! Just a bunch of solo films for a while!That's why Daredevil is actually pretty refreshing in this universe. There's nothing really larger than life in it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,379 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Oh boy. And this is happening over 2 films? There is no reason to think that the films will follow the same plot points as the comics. None of the MCU films have so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Fair enough. Will the original cast be in those films? Or is Iron Man done with Civil War? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,379 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Marvel has not announced the cast of Infinity War yet. It's 3 years away! They are only discussing Ant-Man, Civil War, and Doctor Strange publicly for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 They all have contracts for one more film.I think.Not quite clear.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Downey Jr. too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He had a contract for three Iron Man films.Then they signed a contract with him for Avengers film and two more of those.Then Civil War came up. Whether that's a brand new contract or part of the old one, I don't know. Seems to me like former.And then they split Infinity War into two films.It's quite confusing.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I'm sure Downey Jr. will make quite a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He's got bills to pay. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 It FollowsGood stuff. Great first half, kind of loses it as it draws to the end. But it shows real promise for the director. A smart play on your typical horror tropes but not done in an overly winky fashion. A refreshing entry in a dull genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 It FollowsA refreshing entry in a dull genre.Teenage horror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Sequel to It? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Yep.The next one will be called It Follows Suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 It FollowsA refreshing entry in a dull genre.Teenage horror?Horror in general. Though they're all aimed at teens these days anyway.But there's something that feels kind of old-fashioned about it, like those 80s horror flicks that woud revolve around a band of kids, but done with a much sharper visual style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 How's the score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Pretty neat, drawing a page or two from the old Carpenter scores. I was expecting more based on all the hype. JWFan will hate it of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,365 Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Spooks : The Greater Good - recommended to anyone who enjoyed the television series. More outlandish spy fare (M:I Rogue Nation, Man From UNCLE, SPECTRE) will be along later in the year, but there's nothing wrong with the lower-key thrills on offer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Interstellar: I found Interstellar to be even worse than Gravity. The way Nolan addresses the viewer (through the characters and their dialogue) was almost unbearable. The style was also quite ordinary and entirely devoid of irony and artistry. How strange that the director dares to compare the style with 2001: A Space Odyssey (Nolan said that Interstellar is like 2001 because the story is not told through the characters, which most movies do, even TDK). What?! Interstellar is a very conventional film told from the sentimental and emotional point of view of the characters, just like any other blockbuster. The characters tell the story here, not the director. Matthew McConaughey even whispers his way through the whole movie as if he is explanatory dictionary! And all the goddamn crying and weeping! I can't tell you how much my mouth fell open from bewilderment and disbelief. 'Love conquers time and space!' Man, Interstellar is even too sweet for Spielberg. I'm not a fan of Nolan's house composer Hans Zimmer but his contribution was actually the only positive point that I could find in this film. 2/10 Alex Rarely do we agree, Alex, but this is one of those moments. I shall cherish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Interstellars tag line is absolutely retarded. Saw a really bad film that I knew would be bad but since Ive been on a Zombie kick. We watched the Walking Deceased. It's a spoof of every zombie thing of recent date. But there was not a moment of joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Why is the tagline "retarded", Joey? You believe mankind was born somewhere else? Or are we destined to die here? Share us your thoughts, Joey. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Joe doesn't believe humanity should and would let the Earth die, even though we have been slowly killing it since the industrial era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Well, you're not Joey, but okay. Well, many astrophysicists - not exactly the most mentally retarded people out there - believe that the long-term survival of mankind lies in colonizing space. We can't stay here forever. If we do, mankind will become extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Like Battlestar Galactica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 A virus will wipe out half of us and then it will be OK again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Like The Walking Dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I had high hopes for Ebola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Nah, it's not potent enough. The media circus aside probably 80% would survive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Yeah, in the end police in the USA ended up killing more black people then Ebola did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 That much is certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Dark Shadows - Saw this last night, and is such a misfire. Tim Burton can't make up his mind whether to make this a satire (like The Addams Family), a more straightforward telling, or something entirely different with the same title. I chuckled a few times (mostly at scenes shown in the trailer), but the end result is not thrilling, not all that funny, or entertaining. The production design and cinematography is typically top notch, but it just makes the film's shortcomings even more apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,379 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Yea, a completely forgettable movie (with a good cast) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Like Alice in Wonderland, great visuals and production design, but stale direction and not a spark of magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 How do you separate visuals from direction? Visuals or images are the words of the director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Stale direction of the actors, perhaps?Is Tim Burton known as an "actor's director"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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