KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 What does Del Toro have to do with making this a trilogy? What does Del Toro have to do with the entire recasting of Azog? What does Del Toro have to do with rearranging the plot in the few months before the film premiere? Del Toro dropped out in 2010! Not sure why you brought him up...Of course improvements and problems are to be expected in big projects, but this has been a recurring problem in PJ'S work. From RotK, every film has suffered this same situation. This just points to the fact that PJ is no longer a very efficient film-maker. A genius, he can be, when it comes to crafting great set pieces and works of art, but like all good artists, he needs restraints to help filter his imagination. Which is what made FotR and the LOTR trilogy as a whole so great. When given total freedom with budget and time, PJ struggles to effectively portray his ideas on screen, which is why these two films have been as messy as they are.I'm no hater. PJ used to be one of my favourite directors. RotK is my favourite LotR film and one of my favourite films of all time (and this is often peoples' least favourite of the trilogy). I really enjoyed King Kong when others here may not have.But I'm not going to fanboyishly defend every little thing with the Hobbit just because its a continuation of what I loved so much from 10 years ago. These films have flaws, I've just come to accept them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 9, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2014 Once, Smeltington, Alex Shore and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Is that Shore?Damn he looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm sorry, but you just come across as an entitled fanboy who knows better then the pro's and will forever be pissed of that he didn't get the film he wanted.You, Inky, BB etc. and for years now.I have far less issues with the 2 Hobbit films then I have with the almost unending stream of negative bullshit that you guys have been pouring out when it comes to the Hobbbit.Why are you people even watching these films if you are gonna hate them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 If I did then I was wrong to do so.Soon I'm planning to do a TBOFA thread, where negativity is not allowed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Jason will not close my thead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Sigh. I don't hate AUJ, I like it. I don't even hate DoS (but I'm liking it less amd less as time goes by). And I'm definitely looking forward to the final installment.We watch these films because they're based on characters and stories we've come to love. We rant because our love for these stories makes the flaws and missed opportunities all the more frustrating.And I wouldn't be writing so much if I wasn't being provoked so much! In fact this would have stopped with Steef's comment about PJ's creativity, if SUH hadn't demanded more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 It's always someone else's fault with you!But we all know where the blame lies!It's you! You are to blame!BLAME CANADA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 You wouldn't dare blame Canada! We're so innocent and loved (or easily dismissed)!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 He hates and loves the Hobbit, like he hates and loves himself. He will never be rid of his need for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm sorry, but you just come across as an entitled fanboy who knows better then the pro's and will forever be pissed of that he didn't get the film he wanted.You, Inky, BB etc. and for years now.I have far less issues with the 2 Hobbit films then I have with the almost unending stream of negative bullshit that you guys have been pouring out when it comes to the Hobbbit.Why are you people even watching these films if you are gonna hate them? Please don't act like you never did that with the SW prequels. That's unbecoming of you!Hobbit > ... > SW PrequelsAnyway, any news on the presentation, or do I have to read pages of bickering (again)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Let's bicker some more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 No news.Howard shaved man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 He hates and loves the Hobbit, like he hates and loves himself. He will never be rid of his need for it!Oddly enough, this isn't all that far from the truth! No news.Howard shaved man!Really? Never noticed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Twitter exploded with the news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 True!Also PJ was forced to make many last minute changes when two films became a trilogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yes. The persistent assumptions that PJ was deliberately sabotaging Shore's work is simply offensive. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 No one said deliberately! And certainly no one is trying to paint Jackson as an antagonist. But his decisions do have indirect consequences, not only on Shore, but I'm sure various other teams had a hard time (sound, visual effects, etc). And I still defend the idea that these films could have done well as 2 films, rather than a trilogy (a decision that Peter Jackson and co made). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 And I still defend the idea that these films could have done well as 2 films, not a trilogy (a decision that Peter Jackson and co made).I agree, but that ship has sailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Indeed. Here's hoping the last film will bring it all home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Optimism?Can this be true?Wicked! Tricksey! False! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 What about some end credits song news? Is this thing going to be planned in advance this time, or will they just drag the nearest street artist into a studio again when the release date draws near? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Bring back Ed Sheeran! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Optimism?Can this be true?Wicked! Tricksey! False!Oh stop being so negative Stefan! Don't pour your hatred and malice here where we celebrate continually the magnificence of what PJ and his film making team of geniuses have accomplished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I'd love to hear Shore write something for Kaitlyn Lusk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Well, you'll just to have to keep on imagining how it would sound like, because it's not going to happen!I do. Although I am imagining Kaitlyn Lusk more. She does have a great voice and she is part of the LotR family in a sense as she has been part of these tours of the live performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Bring back Ed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 First Save Famke and now Bring Back Ed. Do your manipulations know no bounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I happen to have a balanced but piercing alto voice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Give me Nick Cave, or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Save it for when we do find out who is doing the song. It will surely be a blessed relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Go to 02:43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 11 years and two Hobbit movies passed, and they still ask about LotR.11 years and two Hobbit movies passed, and they still ask about LotR.That dude should have filmed more of the Shore/Adams discussion instead of showing us his pimply face gushing about the older, quiet gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 11 years and two Hobbit movies passed, and they still ask about LotR.They are obviously going through the "Schindler's List anecdote" phase where they have to tell these same things every time they discuss even a hint of LotR like with the Hobbit promotion. I would have liked to hear more about the Hobbit scores though. But then again not everyone at the Comic Con are so deep LotR/Hobbit score fans as many of us here and they had to keep the discussion rooted in LotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gkgyver 1,646 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 BOFA will suck! That's it, it's game over, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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