Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, KK said: It also just struck me that "Exodus Wounds" is a neutered take on "Anakin's Dark Deeds". There seems to be a fair bit of possible temp-track love here. Anakin! You're breaking my heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I like Gia's use of the spoon jaw clapper in Planet of the Escapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Not sure if I love this album but I generally do like the music on it. Karol James and Brónach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Brónach and James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I concur. But then, he makes up for it with interesting textures. The lack of themes, or the fact themes are being being simplistic, doesn't really bother me in either of Giacchino's scores. In other franchises that would have been a problem but Planet of the Apes series is well served by it. Goldsmith's work didn't really showcase any long-lined melodies and neither of the follow-ups changed that. Even Elfman's work was based on collection of repeating simple motifs. And it makes complete sense. Karol James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Oh, I'm sure the music itself will work mighty fine in the film (just like the Dawn score), and it is indeed perfect for the franchise itself, but if you're gonna give a 75 minutes long album, I need a bit more than that to hold my interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Again, I do agree. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2017 10 hours ago, crocodile said: Goldsmith's work didn't really showcase any long-lined melodies and neither of the follow-ups changed that. The key difference with the original score is that 70-80% of the film's underscore is just inversions, retrogrades, retrograde-inversions, transpositions and aggregates (chords) of a single 12 tone row. That gives the score a thematic unity that is extremely subtle (and barely perceptible to the average listener) but hard to beat. Dixon Hill, Brónach, James and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, Sharky said: The key difference with the original score is that 70-80% of the film's underscore is just inversions, retrogrades, retrograde-inversions, transpositions and aggregates (chords) of a single 12 tone row. That gives the score a thematic unity that is extremely subtle (and barely perceptible to the average listener) but hard to beat. Yes, of course. I just meant it in a way that general public perceives music. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 There are good moments in here, for Giacchino. But still a totally mixed bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Because of the hype I was waiting for something "big" to happen, but it never came. Some neat thematic ideas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Wow, War is far better than Homecoming! Some standout tracks and a nice development of the material from the last film, and making me look forward to seeing this conclusion to the trilogy (which the music seemed to wrap up well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Very high praise from these two critics for Gia's score. They compare it to Mica Levi's Under The Skin which for modern critics is what Williams' Stars Wars is for Jwfan. So that qualifies as high praise indeed. Score discussion starts at about 4:30. Not Mr. Big and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: which for modern critics is what Williams' Stars Wars is for Jwfan. Heh heh heh, so true!! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: Heh heh heh, so true!! I don't know what people here think of that score but film critics lost their shit for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: I don't know what people here think of that score but film critics lost their shit for it. Grey, KK and myself loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: I don't know what people here think of that score but film critics lost their shit for it. I thought it was interesting and certainly appropriate for that crazy fucking movie. But yeah not something I'm putting on a lot. OTOH, I had already been a big fan of Mica's experimental, strange, but oddly compelling pop music for many years before her entry into film scoring!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunnyML 82 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 So... no teasing pics of cuesheets with slates this time except the Fox fanfare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Has anyone noticed 2:47-4:00 from 'A Tide in the Affairs of Apes' seems like a direct lift of the 'Imperial Presence' Theme from Rogue One (Jedha Arrival 1:04-1:30) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 "Migration" is beautiful. Too bad we don't have the Fox Fanfare arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 How did those people pronounce his name? Michael Jiachichichino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 From the RogerEbert.com review of the film: Quote The second is bringing on the great composer Michael Giacchino, who arguably does the best work of his career here, recalling both war films and great blockbuster scores of the ’70s and ‘80s with compositions that become essential to the overall success of the film. A stunning amount of “War” is silent—more than any blockbuster I can remember—so Giacchino’s score becomes as important as the compositions for pre-sound films in the way it conveys emotion and even internal conflict. It’s phenomenal. http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/amp/war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-2017 Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'm willing to believe Ebert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 That joke never gets old... Some good writers at that site. It's funny, for there being a "stunning amount" of silence in the movie, it sure is a long OST.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 - You need a better reviewer for this film! - I know, but they're all dead. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunnyML 82 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Lots of names have been mentioned here already. Broughton, Horner... When I hear cues like Exodus Wounds, I can't help myself but think of John Barry's Black Hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, FunnyML said: I can't help myself but think of John Barry's Black Hole. Dude... Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: That joke never gets old... Some good writers at that site. It's funny, for there being a "stunning amount" of silence in the movie, it sure is a long OST.... I think by silent they mean dialog free. Which would give Gia the opportunity to shine. Disco Stu and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, TheUlyssesian said: I think by silent they mean dialog free. Which would give Gia the opportunity to shine. Ahhh yes that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Some of the brass and percussion elements remind me fondly of John Barry's King Kong. Not copying or anything, just has that flavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I need to listen to this, haven't checked it out since my initial listens on Friday. I keep listening to Spider-man instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jay said: I need to listen to this, haven't checked it out since my initial listens on Friday. I keep listening to Spider-man instead! That's his best score, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Not even close, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Okay... But it's the best Spider-Man score, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 No, definitely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Than listen to the damn apes score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I was planning to see it today, but just checked the local cinemas, and NOT ONE of them has it in 2D. Every single bloody showing is in 3D! When did 2D disappear? I can only stand 3D when the film is in space or something, like Star Wars/Trek etc. As Mr. Plinkett says; "FUCK MOVIES!" Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Almost every single review I've read of this movie has a paragraph similar to this. Quote There's another member of the crew whose contribution to War for the Planet of the Apes is so outstanding, I paid close attention to the credits to learn their name. It turned out to be an artist I know well; Michael Giacchino, the composer of The Incredibles, Inside Out, and the recent Star Trek reboot. He also wrote the score for Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, but his work on War seems even more grand and epic, even more effective in evoking the emotions of its simian protagonists with unusual instrumentation like tribal drums. This is one of the great recent movie scores. http://screencrush.com/war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 "Unusual instrumentation like tribal drums" Yeah, OK. Brónach and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2017 These are the type of critics who think a score is incredible if they notice that a movie has one at all. But that's kind of good news, that Reeves has apparently actually given some space in the sound of the film to the music. Arpy, Will and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: These are the type of critics of think a score is incredible if they notice that a movie has one at all. Yep. 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: But that's kind of good news, that Reeves has apparently actually given some space in the sound of the film to the music. Well, he did let the score shine in some scenes in Dawn already. And I'm sure it shines here too. Now, is it in such a way that it makes it sound like a freakin' masterpiece? That remains to be seen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Or heard... Most critics have mentioned the score positively, but that's just standard film criticism where they're doing the rounds of patting everyone on the back to fill a word quota. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Yep. Well, he did let the score shine in some scenes in Dawn already. And I'm sure it shines here too. Now, is it in such a way that it makes it sound like a freakin' masterpiece? That remains to be seen... Heh, this is where I finally admit I've never watched Dawn! I saw Rise in theaters and thought it was just ok so I never rushed out to see Dawn. I did listen to the score a bunch back when it came out, just because it was Gia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Dawn I think was an improvement over Rise, but at the same time I came away as if I left my emotions at the door only to pick them back up afterwards, and realising that I didn't have any emotional investment in this film at all - Rise had some emotional core with Ceasar and the guy with Alzheimer's, what's-his-face? The good reviews for War seem like this could be rectified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, RPurton said: and the guy with Alzheimer's, what's-his-face? John Lithgow! One of our most entertaining actors! Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 He was great in 3rd Rock From The Sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 One of the greatest comic performances of all time! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 In the cinema now. Fuck 3D, but hoping it's okay in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I loved Rise. It was flawed but its heart was in the right place. Dawn was just relentlessly a dour, sentimental and formulaic piece of crap, with the only memorable thing being Gia's score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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