Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 For some reason this came into my head today, despite not having listened to it in many many years. I used to play this a lot when I was about 15 or so, and listening to it today two moments are notewhorthy here.First from 3:49 to 4:02 - that delicious duo between the cello and the electric guitar. And then from 5:03 to 5:10 - great stuff. The rest of the piece doesn't hold as well for me, but those two particular moments are still quite great. Jilal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 For some reason this came into my head today, despite not having listened to it in many many years. I used to play this a lot when I was about 15 or so, and listening to it today two moments are notewhorthy here.First from 3:49 to 4:02 - that delicious duo between the cello and the electric guitar. And then from 5:03 to 5:10 - great stuff. The rest of the piece doesn't hold as well for me, but those two particular moments are still quite great."Actually, it's not an electric guitar. You know what it is? It's the orchestra put through a guitar amp and piped back into the room. As soon as they finished playing, we plugged them into a guitar amp!" - HZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Love that cue. Ridiculous bombast at its finest. 06:33 - 07:08Say what you want about this musical, but this part is fuckin' ace.What's wrong with the musical? It's a classic. One of the few I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with it. I just said that, because I know some people around here don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 For some reason this came into my head today, despite not having listened to it in many many years. I used to play this a lot when I was about 15 or so, and listening to it today two moments are notewhorthy here.First from 3:49 to 4:02 - that delicious duo between the cello and the electric guitar. And then from 5:03 to 5:10 - great stuff. The rest of the piece doesn't hold as well for me, but those two particular moments are still quite great.+1Say what you will about Zimmer's POTC underscore, that bit is brilliant.Also, 2:15 - 2:59, 3:04 - 3:28 and 4:14 - 4:34 here (the orchestration could perhaps be a little less ... tutti, though). Fun, nothing more, nothing less: Now for something completely different:0:06 - 0:23 (the dark tremolo violas underneath the bright woodwind/percussion interplay, culminating into the completely contrasting, almost ballet-like melody), 0:43 - 0:49 (lovely suspensions for the horn section), 1:23 - 1:39 (elegiacally brutal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with it. I just said that, because I know some people around here don't like it.Maybe this guy ruined it for them.I'm not a huge musical fan in general, but Phantom is perhaps one of a very few that I enjoyed musically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 4:30 SO GOOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 0:50, 1:02, 3:01 & 3:09The Bb5 chord (forming the perfect quintal triad on Bb together with the C arriving later) along with the aggressive percussion - magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 1:55 -2:42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 03:29 - 03:48 (making the video start a bit earlier, because this part is more effective if you listen to the build-up before it). Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That descending bass from 2:02 when you see the wave in the distance. Probably my favourite part of the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I like you.There's a great sort of musical painting happening there in the great crashes of sound followed by a kind of "rushing away" - just like, you guessed it, waves. I usually find drawing parallels like that to be distastefully quasi-intellectual and often rather baseless (like desperate reaches for depth common in a high school literature class), but in this case it does seem intentional and the effect is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 TGP 2.02! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 My Order has attracted many new recruits lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I like you.There's a great sort of musical painting happening there in the great crashes of sound followed by a kind of "rushing away" - just like, you guessed it, waves. I usually find drawing parallels like that to be distastefully quasi-intellectual and often rather baseless (like desperate reaches for depth common in a high school literature class), but in this case it does seem intentional and the effect is awesome.In that specific sequence, the way I see it, the wave acts as a symbol of the interconnectedness between space and time. The wave is a physical result of the huge tidal forces caused by the nearby star, which in itself is a result of the star's gravity, which itself causes the huge difference between the passage of time on that planet's surface and the orbiting spaceship ("huge difference" being that 1 hour on the planet's surface corresponds to 30 years on the spaceship or whatever). The wave itself acts as a physical "pointer" to this link, and reminds us of the strong interconnectedness between space and time.The descending bass in that section simply represents the much slower passage of time on the planet's surface (from an 'outside' point of view at least). The reason why it is applied to the wave is because of how the wave is a physical representation of this "difference in time passage", as I've described above.It doesn't really matter if it was an intentional effect or not...a lot of this stuff can come from the subconscious of the creative mind. This is just my interpretation, and I'm not even sure I fully understand it.Hans could've simply added it there for a cool effect for a crashing wave though, as you described. I can tell you that in the IMAX cinema that bass slide sounded insane and the wave swallowing the clouds was unforgettable. The other spectacular scene was entering the wormhole. My seat was rumbling like mad and the effect was just that which I would imagine entering that wormhole would feel like if I was in the spaceship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 One of the best examples of a truly cinematic score, taking full advantage of the theatrical format to immensely powerful effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 That oboe line from 2:17-2:32 is heavenly. Also, what the hell happened to the second page of this thread with the forum update? It's like the links from my post got vomited all over the second page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 This whole piece is lovely, and has some wonderful short moments throughout. Such as 0:54 - 1:20 and 5:20 - 5:44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2016 5:38, when Jack and Jones fight on top of the sail. Great fun! Sharkissimo, justaguy and Loert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The ending of Battle at the Gym from Masters of the Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 And the last minute and a half of this, fuckin' A! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 3:22 - 3:33 - A sudden change in tone...the way those high strings match the imagery on screen is spine-chilling. The whole scene is a masterclass in combining music with film. 14:28 - 15:12 What a crescendo! 4 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: 5:38, when Jack and Jones fight on top of the sail. Great fun! At World's End was the soundtrack which got me into listening to film music. I must've replayed this and "Up is Down" at least a thousand times! Great track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 154 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1:32 - 202; 'Nuff said. dtw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 That's a nice fugue between 1:25 and 2:22. Inspired at least in some part by The Shark Cage Fugue, no doubt. EDIT: Oh crap, does this count as "strictly non-Williams"?!?! dtw42 and justaguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 0:15 - 0:52 ≈ 2:23 - End Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 This whole cue is outstanding but I love 3.00 to 5.00 0.50 - 1.05 always gives me chills. Maybe because it reminds me of my childhood 1.34 - 1.50 Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I also really like this blowout moment from HTTYD2 (1:53 to 2:11): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Is there a quintessential John Powell score a true beginner should listen to first? I need a gateway drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 How to Train Your Dragon Loert and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Tangent: If you search John Powell on Wikipedia look who he gets paired with in the disambiguation! Reading from left to right: "Cool, cool, wooooah now back up a second!" Muad'Dib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 When he was in Ubeda John Powell did rave about the good work done by Dr. Joseph Mengele.... Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Is there a quintessential John Powell score a true beginner should listen to first? I need a gateway drug. How To Train Your Dragin without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Or The Bourne Identity if you want a taste of the other side of Powell. X-Man 3 is a very good start too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I listened to that one yesterday and was kind of bored by it. The Superman Ostinato cropping up now and then doesn't do it many favors either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 First 30 seconds are actually quite terrifying, before it becomes insufferable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Good score! Really KK, you should give it a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I have! And I definitely like some parts of it. But it's still pretty painful to sit through without a proper edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, KK. said: I have! And I definitely like some parts of it. But it's still pretty painful to sit through without a proper edit. Speaking of that, is there anywhere on this forum where I can find a list of the "listenable" moments from that score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 TGP is usually your best bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Mr. Big said: Speaking of that, is there anywhere on this forum where I can find a list of the "listenable" moments from that score? Yes, it's actually listed in every post, right in between and around all the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Yes, it's actually listed in every post, right in between and around all the words. Are you stoned, Jason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Humor. It is a difficult concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 It wasn't actually funny, and I think there's a grammatical error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, Jay said: Yes, it's actually listed in every post, right in between and around all the words. Woah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 See Stefan? Mr. Big got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 3 hours ago, KK. said: First 30 seconds are actually quite terrifying, before it becomes insufferable... I like that clustral, hornet figure at 1:32. Bars of 6/8 and 9/8 each capped by bars of 2/9 (two isolated 8th note triplets--an irrational time signature) creating a staggering feel. Conlon Nancarrow would be proud. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 2:46-2:57 is perfect cinematic tension. 2:13-end Anybody else hear some similarities to the Trade Federation march? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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