Richard Penna 3,695 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I've been hoping the EE BDs would have isolated scores. I heard that only 'space issues' prevented them on the EE DVDs - that's no excuse here. I have no plans to rebuy the trilogy, as they weren't shot very sharply to begin with. A 5.1 music-only track would tip the balance.Yes, I know we have the CRs, but there's something really special about watching the movie with just the music, and there are a few cues I want the precise film mixes for.But either way, having the alternate BotF uncompressed will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 but there will be the Costa Botes documentaries. This I like : I really wanted to see those.Me too. I wasn't even aware they'd been released before!It looks like they'll be splitting the extended versions over two discs again. I'm a bit pissed off about that.I have absolutely no problem with swapping discs once per film. They were shown theatrically with an intermission as well (and those were the shorter versions). If anything, I regret they didn't resurrect the classic concept intermission music for these films.Space is an issue. I'd rather change discs once than settle for inferior quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I have absolutely no problem with swapping discs once per film.Me neither.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I've seen both theatrical and extended versions at the cinema and neither had an intermission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Neither here, but they should have had one. I remember the strain on my bladder with TTT and ROTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I nearly missed the lighting of the beacons because I needed to go. Although it was a nice touch that they were playing 'Into The West' in the bathrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah, that was probably a "Bathroom Edit". Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Neither here, but they should have had one. I remember the strain on my bladder with TTT and ROTK.It depends on where you watched it. Cinemas decide for themselves whether they have an intermission and it's usually either an intermission on all features (even the 80-minute ones) or none at all. For example, Pathé cinemas has no intermission as company policy, while JT cinemas does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 It looks like they'll be splitting the extended versions over two discs again. I'm a bit pissed off about that.I have absolutely no problem with swapping discs once per film. They were shown theatrically with an intermission as well (and those were the shorter versions). If anything, I regret they didn't resurrect the classic concept intermission music for these films.Space is an issue. I'd rather change discs once than settle for inferior quality.Dude.... I never said that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Then why are you complaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 He's allowed to complain. Somehow Marian attributed the quote to Jason LeBlanc, but it was actually pixie_twinkle who made that statement:$85 for three movies is also too much.Well, there are also 9 DVDs of special features.Actually only 6 discs of special features. It looks like they'll be splitting the extended versions over two discs again. I'm a bit pissed off about that.From the Amazon description:"To top it all off, the extended editions offer four discs per film: two for the longer movie, plus four commentary tracks and stupendous DTS 6.1 ES sound; and two for the bonus material" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 I see people do that from time to time. I dunno how it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Dude.... I never said that!Whoops. Nested quotes can get confusing to edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 You are miss the point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Really ? The theatrical versions had an intermission ? They didn't have one where I live.Neither 'Fellowship' or 'Two Towers' had an official intermission, but for 'Return of the King' the official preferred intermission point was at the end of reel five after Theoden's line 'and no more despair' immediately prior to the cut to the paths of the dead.This causes the second half of the picture to be much longer than the first, which is why the 'Live to Projection' performances ignore this completely and place the intermission at the end of the paths of the dead sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I love the 2 Disc EE's thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The Lord Of The Rings officially announced.Kinda disappointed. Why use DVDs when you could cut the disc number in half with Blu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. They could literally fit all 9 of those DVD discs onto one blu ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I'm assuming only the HD quality stuff is being presented on BR here. Maybe they fear some people would complain about having SD documentary material on a BR disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Steef beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Still, its stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Steef beat me to it.Story of your life, I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Not buying. I'll just grab the DVDs with the Costa Botes DVDs on eBay or something, that's all I don't own that I want.Nothing to do with the amount of discs, I just don't care about the EEs that much to shell out another 100 squid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Still, its stupid.Doesn't really bother me. As long as the films themselves are in brilliant quality HD, they can include the extra's on a thumbnail sized Mpeg1 Nothing to do with the amount of discs, I just don't care about the EEs that much to shell out another 100 squid.Just wait, they will go down. I expect another repackage if this when The Hobbit comes out, so this set will be going at discount prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 With the right equipment you don't even need to go blu ray.I'm satisfied with my regular LOTR EE DVD's but this is good for those who wanted them on Blu-ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I plan to watch them this week, up converted to 1080. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 With the right equipment you don't even need to go blu ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Not buying. I'll just grab the DVDs with the Costa Botes DVDs on eBay or something, that's all I don't own that I want.Nothing to do with the amount of discs, I just don't care about the EEs that much to shell out another 100 squid.I got the original EE DVD set for something like 20 quid last year.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 These type of sets are only expensive for people who want then NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Good point.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 The price isn't that bad for the set itself. I do agree with Jason they could easily fit all 9 discs onto 1 disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 All 9, probably not, but they could easily cut out 4 or 5 of the discs. They could also easily fit each film on one BR disc. I'll wait for The Hobbit+LOTR package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I'll happily take the films on 2 discs if that means that they will use the highest possible quality of sound and picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I'll happily take the films on 2 discs if that means that they will use the highest possible quality of sound and picture.That's another good point. That maybe why they split it to 2 discs. All though still doesn't make sense. AVATAR's 3-Disc set the first disc contains THREE cuts of the film and they all look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I'll happily take the films on 2 discs if that means that they will use the highest possible quality of sound and picture.That's another good point. That maybe why they split it to 2 discs. All though still doesn't make sense. AVATAR's 3-Disc set the first disc contains THREE cuts of the film and they all look great.Isn't that done using seamless branching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Still, its stupid.Makes perfect sense to me. The material might not be available in HD in the first place, and putting it on Blu would mean considerably more work - redoing the entire set of menus, for a start. A BD isn't just a DVD with 5 times the space.With the right equipment you don't even need to go blu ray.Sorry, no.That's another good point. That maybe why they split it to 2 discs.Why else would they do it?All though still doesn't make sense. AVATAR's 3-Disc set the first disc contains THREE cuts of the film and they all look great.I don't have the running times in my mind to make a comparison there. But Avatar might compress differently. And three mostly similar cuts of one film don't need much more space than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think the LOTR EEs are a bit overrated. The Two Towers I think benefits tremendously from the expanded treatment, while the other two just add filler to what was a well-edited and enjoyable set of movies. But you can't beat the bonus features; the sheer amount of quality puts Criterion to shame.Great to see The Hobbit finally start shooting. I'd rather see Guillermo del Toro put his mark on the franchise, but at least Jackson provides welcome continuity director-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I really don't mind so much about the extras being on DVD rather than bluray. Looks like they're packaged in their own individual cases anyway (I'm guessing each will be very similar in size to the Blade Runner 5 disc blu-ray set) so it's not like its going to take up a huge amount of shelf space. Also, since I don't believe the extras were filmed in HD anyway it's not even like we'd have seen improved quality had they been on Blu Ray disc. I suppose the convenience of having all the extras on a single disc per film might be nice but given the sheer length of the documentaries for each film I don't think I could ever sit through them in one go anyway so I definitely don't mind having to change disc. The extras here are still among the very best every put together for a film.As for the films themselves being split over 2 discs, again, I have no problem with this. The Extended Editions have never been presented as one unbroken film on disc form. Given the length of the films, the HD sound, the 4 commentaries and the complexity of the visuals I think it's best that the films are given as much 'breathing room' as possible. With them being spread over 2 discs it means we have a much higher chance of superior picture quality. Isn't that what blu ray is supposed to be about anyway? Having said that, it's now up to Warner Bros to take advantage of the oodles of disc space they have for each film and deliver the goods in AV quality. If they don't, it's just laziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I'll happily take the films on 2 discs if that means that they will use the highest possible quality of sound and picture.That's another good point. That maybe why they split it to 2 discs. All though still doesn't make sense. AVATAR's 3-Disc set the first disc contains THREE cuts of the film and they all look great.I think even the longest cut of Avatar only included 16 additional minutes of footage. Fellowship has 30 minutes, Towers has 40 and King has 50 extra minutes added. Fellowship alone is longer than Avatar (I believe).Also, disc 1 of the Avatar set is bare bones. LOTR has 4 commentaries to add to the DTS-HD MA 6.1 sound track and probably lossy 5.1 options plus BD Live (no word yet on what this will be and I don't know how much this really adds in terms of disc space) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think the commentaries and such are on the other discs of AVATAR. I could be wrong, haven't really viewed the other two discs yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 It would be kind of hard to have a commentary track on a disc that doesnt contain the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I think people are complaining about the extras being on multiple DVDs instead of 1/2 or 3 Blu-Rays because that probably affects the price of the set.I'm sure it affects the price of the set, positively. Consider of how many individual videos the "Appendices" consist. Then consider how many menus are required to navigate the whole thing. I assume these would all have to be completely re-done for a Blu release. That certainly would cost some money.Pressing on DVD or 4 DVDs probably has little difference in price. Heck, I don't know what the price difference between pressing a DVD and pressing a BD is, so for all I know, 4 DVDs might be cheaper than one BD. What is negative about it, if you want to complain, is added strain to the environment.Anyway, I now have 3 months left to re-read The Hobbit and LOTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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