BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I haven't seen the movie so I don't know if there was another shot, but is this it? Doesn't seem like such a huge deal but it does stick out when you consider it's just right there in the middle of all the photographs. I'm not sure I would have noticed, though, to be honest. 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: We're all surrounded by objects with great big brand logos on them. I find it more distracting when a film has gone out its way to de-brand a set. Less realistic. What is distracting is when it's obvious paid product placement. Like they keep making sure to show the logo to camera. When it feels unnatural. The funniest is when characters use literally any search engine instead of Google. Especially Bing. I think more movie characters have used Bing than real people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Yes of course that's the shot, but that's some sort of camcorder in a theater recording of the film, so the framing isn't the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 The BFG for film & score. The Book Thief was fine as a film, but as someone who actually read the book I was a bit disappointed. It seemed "standard". As for the product placement, I didn't notice it till now, but yeah it's distracting. As is always the case the studio likely paid for the product placement and forced the crew to put it in, and it's completely out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Yes of course that's the shot, but that's some sort of camcorder in a theater recording of the film, so the framing isn't the same I can't quite tell in this quality if it racks focus to the Apple logo as it passes by but that would probably make the difference to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 It's important to keep product placement subtle, especially in historical films it just doesn't fit. However there are exceptions. "Minority Report" for example has extremely obvious product placement which is cleverly used to depict the future world. It is part of the utopia there, so it finances the movie and improves the futuristic design. Of course it has also a critical message, so it's like a combination of promotion and anti-promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Brundlefly said: "Minority Report" for example has extremely obvious product placement which is cleverly used to depict the future world. It is part of the utopia there, so it finances the movie and improves the futuristic design. A trick Spielberg took from Blade Runner of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, Disco Stu said: A trick Spielberg took from Blade Runner of course. Well, that's another example. But MR goes farther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Jay said: You don't think its ridiculous to have platant product placement of a modern technology company logo in what is otherwise a WW2 holocaust movie!? Well I didn't even think of "Oh this is Apple! Product placement, product placement! Please no! This ruined the whole movie ;(" but more like "Oh look at this computer, this means the scene is happening years later, in 21st century". I don't understand how it bugged you all that much to see that specific logo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Because: 2 hours ago, Jay said: Exactly, it felt like blatant product placement through and through You can pan through her modern apart with the pictures of her children, etc, without needing to show what specific brand of computer she uses to write Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Wow! That sounds really ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay said: Because: Ok but did it ruin the movie?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 No. Did I say anywhere that it did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I didn't even notice the apple logo(even if I hate this company) if you liked this film you should have misty eyes this far, lovely film. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: O misty eye of the Apple computer below... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The worst product placement I've ever seen was for Torque, also one of the worst movies I've ever seen. There's pretty much a Pepsi product in the background of every scene. Michael Bay has his meta product placements for Pepsi, Microsoft, and Cadillac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 He's your favorite director, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Either way, you lose. Just opt for a pedestrian Horner or Goldsmith score instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Really, there's product placement in every movie. I don't even like Apple and I didn't care about the logo in TBT. They needed a shot with a computer and they chose a mac. If it was a TV it's be a Sony probably.. I'm not watching a film to look at company logos that pop up on screen Will and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Was there product placement in Titanic? The White Star Line, I guess? Not a very good ad. Will and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: Was there product placement in Titanic? The White Star Line, I guess? Not a very good ad. It was an excellent car commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I need to get a 1912 Renault so I can get laid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I know where there are some. How deep can you swim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 16 hours ago, Chewy said: I see, but still, it's not something big enough to "ruin" the movie... This comment is more like WTF If you don't get it, then never mind. I'm not gonna ruin it for ya (or for anybody else who don't get it). 1 hour ago, king mark said: Really, there's product placement in every movie. I don't even like Apple and I didn't care about the logo in TBT. They needed a shot with a computer and they chose a mac. If it was a TV it's be a Sony probably.. I'm not watching a film to look at company logos that pop up on screen No, it's not that simple. It's most likely not just a "random" product placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, king mark said: If it was a TV it's be a Sony probably. Quite right. A black Sony Trinitron from 1998 or a silver Trinitron FD WEGA from the noughties, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Seems to me a bit overreactive to think a 5 second shot ruins a whole movie... That kind of sensitivity is a bit surprising. Do all movies under go the same scrutiny or do some movies slip under the radar due to personal bias? However, another thing that surprised me, before this thread descended into quibbling about product placement, is that a lot of people also seem to prefer The BFG over TBT as a whole, and genuinely think it's a better movie. To me - product placement or nor - The Book Thief was a beautiful drama, full of real life tragedy enabled by amazing acting, told by a supernatural narrator which was an original and evocative twist. I found The BFG to be an unengaging CGI filled mess with generic characters, over-the-top visuals and unfocused direction. But I think the comparison is a little bit unfair when it comes to comparing the two movies. They are in no way intended to be alike. In my eyes, one is made for 20-50 year olds while the other one is made for kids. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 9 hours ago, rough cut said: I found The BFG to be an unengaging CGI filled mess with generic characters, over-the-top visuals and unfocused direction. That's exactly what I thought when I first watched the first 20 minutes of The BFG! 9 hours ago, rough cut said: But I think the comparison is a little bit unfair when it comes to comparing the two movies. They are in no way intended to be alike. In my eyes, one is made for 20-50 year olds while the other one is made for kids. And who's asking you to compare them? Reread my OP! I asked, Which do you personally like better?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Ok I understand, but that is semantics. In the "which do you prefer"-game, my point is that the set up works better if the nominees are in the same genre or intended for a similar purpose. For example, say "Star Wars" vs "Harry Potter". Of course, all set ups work but it makes the outcome less meaningfull in my eyes. It becomes hard to derive any true knowledge from the results. Just for laughs, which would you prefer: "A free new luxury suit" vs "A free new pair of sports shoes"? This is stupid, I know, but it drives the point home: it's not easy to compare... it depends completely on the demographic. All in all, this doesn't apply to your question regarding the music to the films, that comparison is fine, only to the films themselves. (Jeez, just to be clear, if someone is compiling a "my 1 000 best movies"-list then of course you'd have to compare across genres. It's the one-on-one comparison that I find lacking.) Josh - By no way do I mean offense to your query, though! It has resulted in that we now know that most JWFaners prefer The BFG over TBT. Who'd have thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I didn't find either film particularly engaging, but The BFG wins for me because it's a really sweet, optimistic little film, a breath of fresh air. The Book Thief is a pretty standard drama. (It wasn't asked, but I also prefer The BFG book to The Book Thief. The former is really funny and sweet, much more-so even than the film, while the latter was apparently supposed to be really sad but just didn't connect with me, making it a bit of a slog.) Score, I'm not sure, as I haven't listened to The Book Thief as much as The BFG. I do enjoy both, that much I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 44 minutes ago, rough cut said: Ok I understand, but that is semantics. In the "which do you prefer"-game, my point is that the set up works better if the nominees are in the same genre or intended for a similar purpose. For example, say "Star Wars" vs "Harry Potter". Of course, all set ups work but it makes the outcome less meaningfull in my eyes. It becomes hard to derive any true knowledge from the results. Just for laughs, which would you prefer: "A free new luxury suit" vs "A free new pair of sports shoes"? This is stupid, I know, but it drives the point home: it's not easy to compare... it depends completely on the demographic. All in all, this doesn't apply to your question regarding the music to the films, that comparison is fine, only to the films themselves. (Jeez, just to be clear, if someone is compiling a "my 1 000 best movies"-list then of course you'd have to compare across genres. It's the one-on-one comparison that I find lacking.) Josh - By no way do I mean offense to your query, though! It has resulted in that we now know that most JWFaners prefer The BFG over TBT. Who'd have thought! Well, no offense taken. But you may be overthinking this. My question Which do you personally prefer? simply translates to which genre of movie do you like better/do you get more enjoyment out of? You don't have to compare the movies themselves. Just remember the occasions when you watched these movies and ask yourself which experience was more satisfying to you personally.... So just compare your personal feelings. Fine line, maybe, but I consciously asked Which do you personally prefer? and not Which do you think is BETTER? As I noted in my OP, I know that these two are very different types of movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Haha, yup, too much thought and too many damn paragraphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I don't care for either film but I enjoy listening to The Book Thief more even though the orchestration and colors in BFG are more fun and whimsical. I like the delicate piano and harp music in TBT and the general moodiness of the score. Some cues are a little monotonous but I just skip those tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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