A24 4,345 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 And yet you all will see the sequel on the first day it gets released. OAJWF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 I'm very picky with my theatrical ventures these days, so I doubt it. I'll probably see Jurassic Park 5, Avengers: Infinity Four and Godzilla: King of the Monsters, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Yes, only quality cinema! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Hahaha, sarcasm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 Any nice romantic comedies on the horizon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Whealism and whelatable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,364 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 2:07 PM, Chen G. said: I don't think it began with "The Dark Knight." I never really accredited this shift in tone of blockbuster filmmaking to Nolan. I think to tie it to 9/11 and really to the maturation of large-scale filmmaking as an art-form, is the more appropriate approach. While @Quintus is correct, Jackson's Lord of the Rings and his King Kong are very serious films, as were other films coming out at the time. That definitely includes War of the Worlds, a summer hit in 2005 that was gritty as hell and intended as a direct invocation of 9/11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 I never meant to say TDK started the gritty trend, but it's the most popularised example of how it cemented itself as the default style and approach in mainstream cinema. I can't remember a film being as hyped in the last 15 years. James and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Weren't Alien and Blade Runner gritty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 They were, but not modern trendy gritty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Twendy gwitty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I feel confused here about what gritty means anymore. If gritty = realistic, then gritty =/= dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 19, 2018 Author Share Posted May 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Twendy gwitty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Brónach said: I feel confused here about what gritty means anymore. If gritty = realistic, then gritty =/= dark. So, you're back again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Seriousness is an aspiration for movies. It has to be EARNED. Not every movie has to be a profound epiphany. I hope people can compartmentalize. I enjoy both movies, light-hearted as well as serious ones. I don't however like pompous ones - like Nolan movies. Something like Dark Knight doesn't earn its seriousness so to me is a patently ridiculous movie. If a major blockbuster can be pulled off in an entertaining way without being too serious - I think that's a victory. Like Ragnark, or the first Kingsman or the first Pacific Rim or even the master of grim-dark Zack Snyder's 300. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I've had many spiritual out-of-body tear-inducing experiences with supposed 'mindless blockbuster' movies. Though to protect myself, I won't name any of them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Deleted comment. Nothing relevant or offensive has been said here just loose words without foundation. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Speak for yourself! James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: Seriousness is an aspiration for movies. It has to be EARNED. Not every movie has to be a profound epiphany. I hope people can compartmentalize. I enjoy both movies, light-hearted as well as serious ones. I don't however like pompous ones - like Nolan movies. Something like Dark Knight doesn't earn its seriousness so to me is a patently ridiculous movie. I think Nolan manages it quite well in his Batman movies. And I think earnestness and seriousness are all the more admirable in blockbuster, genre films with fictional elements. Its true that not all movies need to be like this: its important to have upbeat films, not to mention comedies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 The days of awesome blockbusters like Titanic, ID4, Jurassic Park and the like are long behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Batman's Diet Coke said: The days of awesome blockbusters like Titanic, ID4, Jurassic Park and the like are long behind us. Shame. Two of those are some of the most entertaining movies I've ever had the pleasure of seeing. And one is genuinely great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Batman's Diet Coke said: The days of awesome blockbusters like Titanic[...]are over. Wait, you complain about blockbusters being too grim, and bring up Titanic as an example? I would perspecribe a dose of the second half of Titanic, to be taken once a day for two days; not to be taken with caffeinated drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Well... that's not exactly what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I dunno. I don't think cinema is any worst off then it was in any other period of its history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I dunno. I don't think cinema is any worst off then it was in any other period of its history. When were the last all-out excellent adventure movies like Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, etc.? Those seem to be few and far between... Closest might've been Tintin and The Jungle Book. Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 So we moved out of certain genres, but we still have good films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Chen G. said: I think Nolan manages it quite well in his Batman movies. And I think earnestness and seriousness are all the more admirable in blockbuster, genre films with fictional elements. Its true that not all movies need to be like this: its important to have upbeat films, not to mention comedies. This may be the first reasonable post you've made. Cheers for recognizing that we can have multiple tones in film, that there's nothing wrong with a reasonable fraction of earnest and serious blockbusters, and that one can appreciate the fun and upbeat thing whilst not simultaneously feeling the need to crucify Nolan to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Chen G. said: I think Nolan manages it quite well in his Batman movies. And I think earnestness and seriousness are all the more admirable in blockbuster, genre films with fictional elements. Its true that not all movies need to be like this: its important to have upbeat films, not to mention comedies. To me Nolan absolutely and utterly fails at a human level. I feel I have never seen a truly human moment in any of his movies (and no mccoughney bursting into tears doesn't count). It is just the basic fundamental - seeing a human being on screen and comprehending that they have human concerns and human feelings and human thoughts and human foibles. Nolan's movies contain vapid androids with a few characteristics assigned to them with bullet points rather than crafting complex 3 dimensional human characters. Add all of that to his pompous film-making style and I feel like if say humanity is destroyed and aliens come to Earth and only Nolan's film survive in digital form - the aliens will fundamentally misconstrue and misunderstand humanity - because that is what Nolan does in his films. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Pieter_Boelen said: When were the last all-out excellent adventure movies like Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, etc.? Those seem to be few and far between... Closest might've been Tintin and The Jungle Book. Maybe? Mad Max: Fury Road! Holko and Pieter Boelen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: To me Nolan absolutely and utterly fails at a human level. I feel I have never seen a truly human moment in any of his movies (and no mccoughney bursting into tears doesn't count). It is just the basic fundamental - seeing a human being on screen and comprehending that they have human concerns and human feelings and human thoughts and human foibles. Nolan's movies contain vapid androids with a few characteristics assigned to them with bullet points rather than crafting complex 3 dimensional human characters. Add all of that to his pompous film-making style and I feel like if say humanity is destroyed and aliens come to Earth and only Nolan's film survive in digital form - the aliens will fundamentally misconstrue and misunderstand humanity - because that is what Nolan does in his films. How do you account for the great warmth that I, my wife, my children, and presumably many others who don't live with me get from his films, then? I think you could have saved time and pretension by simply saying "his films don't move me." Although we knew that already. Christ, for how often some people opine about Nolan mania, it's those same people who seem to love nothing more than discussing him ad nauseam. Even we in The Church don't have much to say. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Let's not blow. Things. Out of. Proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 The most human character in film in decades! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Maybe at your house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Joker is the key to all this. He's a funnier character than we've had before in these Nolan films. Unlucky Bastard and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 He's hilarious. The scene with the mob guys always cracks me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I'm only burning about half, actually. This ship deserves a better class of passenger. And I'm gonna give it to them. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Chen G. said: I dunno. I don't think cinema is any worst off then it was in any other period of its history. Really? How old are you, if I may ask? 4 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: To me Nolan absolutely and utterly fails at a human level. I feel I have never seen a truly human moment in any of his movies (and no mccoughney bursting into tears doesn't count). It is just the basic fundamental - seeing a human being on screen and comprehending that they have human concerns and human feelings and human thoughts and human foibles. Quote of the week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 7 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Mad Max: Fury Road! Really? I've got to admit I didn't bother watching that film, but that's mainly because everything I know about it suggests it has Modern Movie Syndrome written all over it. That would make it the polar opposite of what I was thinking of... (Same applies to The Dark Knight trilogy) But as I said, I haven't actually seen it, so maybe I'm very, very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Its the best action film of the decade. Period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Richard said: I would say that AVATAR sucked dick, but that's being unkind to erect penises. Oh, the poetry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 20 hours ago, Margo Channing said: Any nice romantic comedies on the horizon? BOOK CLUB, I suppose. I'm looking forward to ON CHESIL BEACH. That's romantic (kind of ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 On 20/5/2018 at 10:52 AM, Stefancos said: Its the best action film of the decade. Period! I haven't actually seen that many movies in the last few years, but this one is among my favourites. I remember seeing it alone, at a late-night showing, and I walked out feeling utterly confused, and then I walked home through entirely empty streets in silence, thinking, wait, what the fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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