Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted November 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2020 crlbrg, Smaug The Iron, Jay and 5 others 3 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2020 So yeah, I waited for the proper month to do these. 2 movies in 2 parts each, one for the 4 Advent Sundays. The teaser also gave a clue: HA2 first, HA second. That's because the first movie's is infinitely more genuine and actually tries with its emotional core (which is what makes it great), and the score can follow suit too, so I think it's more appropriate to have that one closer to Christmas. So, HA2. This was mostly a fun enough job to do. The really interesting part is how fragmented both these scores are, a lot of short cues, either recorded in little pieces or as one longer cue with built-in silences... and how much of that you don't notice at all on the LLLs because they're presented very well! Though here with this one it was sometimes difficult to separate stuff when I had to. Here and there I included bits of dialogue for both movies, where I felt the spotting made space for them and they were somewhat warranted, like ironic crosscutting, or to show exactly why a cue starts like it does. Thank you, @BrotherSound, for the partial cue list, I'm using my fill-in attempt. 1M2 Home Alone fits just fine. 1M5 [My Christmas Tree] - The film plays it slower, might be a different take, switches to the unreleased solos, decided not to restore it. 1m6 [I'd Like To Apologize] - this is slightly off from being in sync with the movie but I like it more like this. 1M7 Trout Sniffer - fits 1M8 What A Troubled Young Man - Now this is one example where the cue had a built-in silence between the two parts as recorded that got reduced on the release - for the better of course, but it doesn't make this job easier. 1M9 Kevin’s Wish - fits fine. 2M1 [untitled] [We Overslept Again] - Now this is strange, the movie tracks and loops it, possibly even uses the HA1 recordings? As it is on the LLL I feel it has a weird edit where two alternates may be joined but I have no authority to say. It syncs up just fine anyway to the point where the music ends in the movie, even if it's not the same music. Had to fabricate a false clean ending using Making the Plane. 2M2 Holiday Flight - It's so refreshing to have a heavy action cue sync up perfectly to the final cut! 2M2 Holiday Flight (alternate) - And shocking that the completely different early alternate also fits perfectly! 2M3 On The Wrong Plane - Wisely moved between 2M5 and 2M6 on the LLL. 2M5 Radar Screen - fits. 2M6 Kevin’s Not Here - seems to fit fine. 3M1 New York City - had to shorten a couple shots around the Ally Sheedy cameo. 3M3 The Arrival - completely unused, probably reedited to the song after the cue was dropped, so I had to work on it a bit to beat it back into shape. 3M4 The Thieves Return - Strange things going on, there are obvious sync points but in one place a black screen had to be added, in one pace a whole shot removed. 3M5 The Plaza Hotel fits great in all its Hookian glory. 4M1 To The Registration Desk - fits fine. 4M2 [The Christmas Song (source)] 4M3 [Let It Snow (source)] - decided to restore these too. 4M4 The Hotel Suite - another cue likely recorded in "two pieces" 4M6 Old Movie #1 [source]- yeah, why not 4M7 The Concierge - in two pieces again. 4M9 The Concierge Escapes - unused in the movie but fits, the end probably didn't fit well with the needledrop. 5M1 [Distant Goodnights] - fits fine 5M2 [No Tip] - fits fine 5M3 [Checking Records] - fits 5M5 Ice Skating - Restored how it's in the movie, even if the long camera move being unscored until we see Harry is a bit strange. 5M6 Hatching A Plan 5M7 [unknown title] 6M1 Mr. Duncan’s Store 6M2 [Turtle Doves] all fit, whatever 5m7 is . Decided to include the music box source cues too. 6M3 To The Plaza.....Presto! 6M4 [Race To The Room] fit too. Again refreshing to have big complex action cues fit the final cut. Even if TTPP is in multiple pieces. 6M5 Into Harry’s Waiting Arms 7M1 Old Friends Meet 7M2 Hot Pursuit all fit fine too. Bayesian, BrotherSound, Chewy and 6 others 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 This is great! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted December 6, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2020 Another Sunday, another part! An impressive 21-minute stretch of near-constant music! 7M3 [Haunted Brownstone] 7M4 Appearance of the Pigeon Lady 8M1 [O Come All Ye Faithful] 8M2 [O Little Town Of Betlehem] 8M3 [Silent Night] 8M4 Christmas Star all fit great, for 8M5 Preparing the Trap I had to shorten a shot to bring it back to sync, finally after it bothered me every single time I saw the movie! Restored 8M6 [Winter Wonderland] too, why not. 9M1 Approaching the Cash Register 9M2 Breaking Duncan’s Window 9M3 The See Saw 9M4 Running Trough Town all fit fine too. For the traps I decided not to edit all the shorter segments closer together by cutting shots, ironically this time not editing the movie to the LLL but the LLL to the movie. I just wanted to really showcase how the spotting worked, what was kept silent and what was scored. 9M5 Brick Throwing 9M6 Staple Gun 9M7 [The Basement] 10M1 Slipping + Sliding 10M2 A Brief Recovery 10M3 Head On Fire 10M4 [The Rope] 10M5 Stacking Boxes 10M6 Up The Ladder 10M7 To The Stairs 10M8 [That's 3] 10M9 The Stair Caper 11M1 Kerosene Rope 11M2 Down The Rope 11M3 Into The Park all fit beside a short microedit toward the end of the last one. Some bits are unused. Overall, 21 minutes, 15 cues (as far as we know), 3 LLL tracks... in 35 segments. Whew. 11M4 Duncan’s Store and Mother’s Search - fits 11M5/12M1 Rockefeller Center - had to slow the transition shots down 12M2 Wake Up, It’s Christmas! - fits 12M3 New Finale - fits Merry Christmas (End Credit Pt. 1) Somewhere In My Memory (End Credit Pt. 2) both fit fine over the credits. Smaug The Iron, Madmartigan JC, Chewy and 6 others 1 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 There's something timelessly warm and meaningful about the Somewhere In My Memory melody that simultaneously tugs on my heartstrings and makes me smile. Having it play as the main title words appear 'Home Alone 2' works so perfectly. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 What a Christmas gift! Thanks @Holko Love that you kept the "Kevin!" scream Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted December 13, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 So, another Sunday and we continue our journey. Moving onto Home Alone! This great score was an absolute joy to restore. Thanks to @BrotherSound again for the LtP cue list leak! My own attempts at filling it in are in brackets. 1M2 Home Alone - funnily enough, I had to intervene here, extend the opening, shorten the ending, to get things back into what seems like a more proper sync. 1M4 Go Pack Your Suitcase 1M5 Introducing Marley 1M8/2M1 In Good Hands 2M2 Banishes To The Attic 2M3 We Slept In all fit just fine. 2M4 [Hard Count] was replaced with some faint chimes (used maybe as source music) in the movie but fits. 2M5 [Making the Plane] is unused too but still fits. 3M1 The Basement 3M2 [I Made My Family Disappear] fit fine. 3M3 [Rock And Roll Riff] is edited in the movie, recreated that here. 3M4 Target Practice fits. 3M6 Sledding On The Stairs - I had to split this one just slightly. 3M7 Lights On - had to split into multiple pieces. 4M2 Guess Who's Home 4M1 Paris Arrival 4M4 The Man In The House 4M5 Police Check all fit, just had to split the last one again. 4M7 The Bookshelf - had to split in two. 5M1 Phone Machine 5M2 The Drugstore Scene 5M3/4 Escape Across The Ice all fit. 5M6 Follow That Kid - had to split in two. Maybe it's actually 5M5 and 5M6. 5M7 [Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree] - sure, why not? Recreated the film edit. 6M2 [The First Noel] - while we're at it, why not buff it up by including all the carol source music too? 6M3 [Listening to Carson] fits fine. 6M4 [White Christmas] - alright, let's just keep this running. 6M5 [Hark the Herald] 6M6 Cleaning Clothes all fit fine. 7M2 Kitchen Scene - partially dialed out I think but fits. 7M3A [Jingle Bells] 7M3B [Joy To The World] - I was naughty, had to loop this one 7M3C [Deck The Halls] 7M4 Scammed By A Kindergartener - Fits fine but had to split it into 3. Smaug The Iron, Disco Stu, ragoz350 and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted December 20, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2020 Well, we've reached the fourth Sunday and the end of our journey. 7M7 Walking Home 7M7A O Holy Night 7M7B Star of Bethlehem - used the OST version which is the actual film take 7M7C Carol of The Bells - didn't recreate the exact film transition, instead faded this out in time for 8M6 to enter cleanly, so it can take center place. 8M6 Setting The Trap fits fine. For this one I followed the same pattern as for HA2 - leave the footage as is, separate all the little cues, space them out. Unfortunately I had to intervene for Paint Cans, had to shorten the footage in one place and lengthen it in others. Overall, 4 LLL tracks in 26 pieces over 13 minutes. 9M1+2 The Attack Begins 9M3 John Wayne Enters The Basement 9M4+5 A Hot Hand 9M6 / 10M1 Sore Head fit fine. 10M2 Paint Cans - some strange edits going on here, tried to keep up. 10M3 Clothesline Trapeze - partially unused but fits. The insert is noticeably edited in in the film audio if you pay attention to it, the quality/mix/stereo field changes. 10M4 Marley To The Rescue fits. 10M5 Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas - film version, fits. 11M1 The Next Morning 11M2 Mom Returns 11M3 Finale fit great. 11M4 We Wish You A Merry Christmas 11M4A End Credits - had to slow the credits way down to make them fit! alternates: Insertless original 10M3 Clothesline Trapeze - fits Instrumental Walking Home and early church sequence assembly before Star Of Betlehem was made into a carol too - fits O Holy Night alternate finale - fits. Not Mr. Big, Smaug The Iron, Madmartigan JC and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Merry Christmas! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Thanks for making these, Holko, great work as always! I just watched the HA1 ones, haven't seen the HA2 ones yet. I think a lot of your comments to do with having the "split" tracks is just a case of long pauses being written into the music, and then Mike shortening those pauses for album listening. I always forget how fun Rock and Roll Riff is, so glad we finally got that eventually I always loved how the music is timed to the lights turning on in Lights On I never picked up before that Follow That Kid opens with a stinger for Harry's gold tooth, which parallels the unreleased stinger JW recorded for the gold tooth in the opening scene (click here to hear that) It's interesting to track the scenes the "Star of Bethlehem" melody is used for through these videos - it effectively functions as Marley's theme in Introducing Marley and The Man Of The House, but then when Kevin hides from the Wet Bandits in Follow That Kid, you realize it's really more of a "fear" theme. Then when Marley sits down next to Kevin and begins talking to him, the melody is turned into the full song (Star of Bethlehem), transforming Kevin's fear into a new understanding. Then right after during Setting The Trap, it highlights his new determination to protect his house from the Wet Bandits, despite his fears. Brilliant! Also interesting to note Jingle Bells is in the film twice (once within "Miracle on 34th St" on the TV, and once a JW recorded arrangement in an airport) and so is Deck The Hall (once the JW arrangement in an airport, once what John Candy's polka band is playing in the van) Nice job with the alternates too. I dunno what they were thinking with that original O Holy NIght ending, the revised cue is way better! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, Jay said: I think a lot of your comments to do with having the "split" tracks is just a case of long pauses being written into the music, and then Mike shortening those pauses for album listening. Yes, that's definitely what I was thinking and meaning. 27 minutes ago, Jay said: I dunno what they were thinking with that original O Holy NIght ending, the revised cue is way better! I love love love it! But of course the revised one works way better. 27 minutes ago, Jay said: I never picked up before that Follow That Kid opens with a stinger for Harry's gold tooth, which parallels the unreleased stinger JW recorded for the gold tooth in the opening scene Also in Paint Cans when Marv realises it's missing and Harry looks for it! 27 minutes ago, Jay said: It's interesting to track the scenes the "Star of Bethlehem" melody is used for through these videos - it effectively functions as Marley's theme in Introducing Marley and The Man Of The House, but then when Kevin hides from the Wet Bandits in Follow That Kid, you realize it's really more of a "fear" theme. Then when Marley sits down next to Kevin and begins talking to him, the melody is turned into the full song (Star of Bethlehem), transforming Kevin's fear into a new understanding. Then right after during Setting The Trap, it highlights his new determination to protect his house from the Wet Bandits, despite his fears. Brilliant! The other day I was thinking that many Home Alone motifs are the usual external, descriptive ones - Holiday Flight, Kevin's theme (gaining confidence with every new rendition), the burglars, the House - but Somewhere in my Memory and Star of Betlehem are more like Kevin's introspective themes, the first representing at first the jolly holiday feeling, then the melancholy, then the joy of everyone reunited at home, the second as you said Kevin's fears and later, after it's reevaluated, his determination. SimM standing for "Home", SoB for "Alone", if you will! From the home being a normal home, to it not really being a home without everyone in it, back to being home again; and from Kevin being alone and afraid, to making peace with being alone and having to defend his house himself. I also really like how by the end SimM fuses with Kevin's theme, foreshadowed in the main title too: first phrase (out of 4) of SimM + second (of 2) of Kevin! This is also present in the end credits and therefore the concert piece, making it extra nice that JW asked Mike to move the concert piece away from the overture position for the newer LLL. Mike mentions in the booklet how Old Man Marley's Dies Irae (Introducing Marley, Man of the House, Drug Store) gets "revealed" to be Carol of the Bells - I think I'm hearing more similar shapes elsewhere too, a rythmically jumbled one recurring for the scary basement furnace (4th note quickly overtaken by the first one again), and the twisted stabs after the tooth stinger in Follow that Kid, first 3 brass notes loud, the 4th coming later quietly on strings. Too bad 2 barely makes any use of its new themes and uses the old ones messily. Kevin's theme gets the most consistent continuation, still being confident but getting multiple fun variations. Smaug The Iron and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Holko said: Too bad 2 barely makes any use of its new themes and uses the old ones messily. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jay said: Nice job with the alternates too. I dunno what they were thinking with that original O Holy NIght ending, the revised cue is way better! Its tying the scene of Marley seeing his granddaughter (?) at a distance in the church with the him hugging her. 25 minutes ago, Jay said: It's interesting to track the scenes the "Star of Bethlehem" melody is used for through these videos - it effectively functions as Marley's theme in Introducing Marley and The Man Of The House, but then when Kevin hides from the Wet Bandits in Follow That Kid, you realize it's really more of a "fear" theme. Then when Marley sits down next to Kevin and begins talking to him, the melody is turned into the full song (Star of Bethlehem), transforming Kevin's fear into a new understanding. Then right after during Setting The Trap, it highlights his new determination to protect his house from the Wet Bandits, despite his fears. Brilliant! Dies Irae pretty much does the same thing as well, with Setting the Trap and Carol of the Bells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Holko said: Also in Paint Cans when Marv realises it's missing and Harry looks for it! Oh snap I must have looked away at that point! Quote SimM standing for "Home", SoB for "Alone", if you will! Woah Quote This is also present in the end credits and therefore the concert piece, making it extra nice that JW asked Mike to move the concert piece away from the overture position for the newer LLL. Has it been mentioned on JWFan that "Somewhere In My Memory" is just the same exact End Credits section recording, with a newly recorded intro added to the front? Kind of like Theme for Jurassic Park 22 minutes ago, Spider-Fal said: Its tying the scene of Marley seeing his granddaughter (?) at a distance in the church with the him hugging her. Well yea obviously (and yea, it's his granddaughter), but I should have been more clear to mean that I meant the particular arrangement of Silent Night JW crafted for the original finale cue, it just sounds weird to me. Maybe it's because he runs it for the whole almost 2 minute cue instead of just a smaller reprise for the shots of the all the hugging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Hmmm, only thing unusual about it that I can tell is the Gold Tooth synth accents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Oh and Holko, I'm surprised your alternates video doesn't continue on from the alternate finale into the alternate end credits opening with "We Wish You A Merry Christmas" choir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Well, there's nothing to see under it and I think it ends just fine this way. Also about 2 months ago I tried phasing them out to get the choir cleanly but they're a different take with different speeds. Then I decided it was probably just an intro pickup for the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I don't know if the choir was recorded only with album use in mind or intended for the film but Columbus rejected it, but the choir in both Walking Home and We Wish You A Merry Christmas was recorded separately from the orchestra Funny how the film used the Walking Home choir but not the We Wish You A Merry Christmas choir, then the OST didn't use the Walking Home choir but did use the We Wish You A Merry Christmas choir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 48 minutes ago, Holko said: Well, there's nothing to see under it and I think it ends just fine this way. Also about 2 months ago I tried phasing them out to get the choir cleanly but they're a different take with different speeds. Then I decided it was probably just an intro pickup for the album. They are not, I was able to phase it out with one of the other tracks (Holiday Flight?) Edit: actually maybe I just phased out the segue into Holiday flight theme.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 If Holiday Flight is mastered identically to the end credits you should be able to phase them out to get a clean ending of We Wish You A Merry Christmas. Incidentally, the ending of that OST track is taken from Making The Plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Jay said: I never picked up before that Follow That Kid opens with a stinger for Harry's gold tooth, which parallels the unreleased stinger JW recorded for the gold tooth in the opening scene (click here to hear that) Wow! I never knew that the sound of Harry’s gold tooth gleaming a few moments prior to “In Good Hands” was by John Williams. All these years I thought it was just a sound effect made by the sound department. Next I suppose that the sound of the doorbell a few moments before “We Slept In” was recorded by the Maestro too, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Haha. Nah just the tooth stinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 29/11/2020 at 3:27 AM, Holko said: 5M5 Ice Skating - Restored how it's in the movie, even if the long camera move being unscored until we see Harry is a bit strange. Unless I'm wrong and hearing things, the opening is in the film. It covered up by the fading out 'It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas'. I have the films 5.1 audio tracks open at the moment. Listen for the horn i think it is? I'm not familiar with instruments, however there is what sounds like a horn that is in that section that is not in the song but you can hear it as its fading out. So it looks like they overlaid the ending of the song over the opening of the cue. It blends in very well, and i couldn't quite make out a difference until I noticed the horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pat_S 69 Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just thought I'd pop this here in case anyone here loves this cue as much as I do. For this video, I restored Arrival in New York to the picture from Home Alone 2. I did it a little differently to @Holko, so feel free to compare the merits of both interpretations. Holko, bollemanneke and ragoz350 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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