fommes 154 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Hi all,I wanted to start a thread about VHS copies of films one should keep. Mostly, I use the tapes with films I've got on DVD to tape other films, but there are of course exceptions.In other words, what DVDs are different than their respective VHS counterparts (not released on DVD)?I'll start with the most obvious:Star WarsThe Empire Strikes BackReturn of the JediAlso: Blade RunnerDuel (truck dinosaur noise)And what about Superman or The Phantom Menace?(Not that I have the latter on DVD.)All the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Do films with no DVD release count? I'm thinking Kenneth Branagh's Hamlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 TPM has been altered for the DVD release. If you're a real purist, you'll want to hang on to Raiders as well, just to see the snake reflection (you can find that shot unaltered somewhere on the fourth disc, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 THX 1138 on VHS doesn't come with CGI sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Hmmm - my Superman VHS was identical to the DVD.....they were both the Spec Eds......Attack of the Clones was slightly altered for DVD....the British VHS has a slightly different conclusion (the same as the Cinema Release as far as I can gather) to th Obi-Wan/Jango Fett fight in the Arena... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 The original Star Wars films can be easily found on DVD. So can Blade Runner for that matter. Superman with the original edit and sound mix has not been done on DVD yet, but I'm sure someone will get to it at some point. Also keep your Jaws VHS tape so you can hear the original Oscar winning sound track.As I haven't seen the Duel DVD, I didn't realize the sound had been changed. Could you elaborate on that?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted January 22, 2005 Share Posted January 22, 2005 I read that the moan of the falling truck is gone in the English version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted January 22, 2005 Author Share Posted January 22, 2005 As I haven't seen the Duel DVD, I didn't realize the sound had been changed. Could you elaborate on that? NeilSee the Spielbergfilms forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I'm keeping my CE3K Special Edition VHS that has the inside the mothership sequence.K.M.Who might just dump his Indiana Jones VHS in the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,364 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I'm keeping my CE3K Special Edition VHS that has the inside the mothership sequence.The DVD features that forced ending as an extra. Great special effects though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I don't think i'll be keeping any vhs. . .but they aren't in the trash bin yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Yes,they all just sit there,all useless space wasting relics...but i haven't the courage to actually dump all of them in the trash.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klokwerk 0 Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I couldn't care about my family's VHS collection in a drawer downstairs - got my pretty big DVD collection. BUT, I do have these films on DVD which I keep for sentimental reasons - even though I have them on DVD, I can't seem to bring myself to get rid of the tapes.Back to the Future (1, 2 & 3)Indiana Jones (Raiders, ToD, TLC)Superman (1 & 2)Star Wars Trilogy - Original EditionsStar Wars Trilogy - Special EditionsAll of the above are housed in their series' respective box (well not the original Star Wars). For the most part they're all in great condition; both box and tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 BUMP.Thought this was an interesting thread (no deliberate attempt at self-promotion) - for films you should keep on VHS because the DVD version differs from it.Like with the new trend of releasing a director's cut. I'm keeping my VHS of JFK for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Also keep your Jaws VHS tape so you can hear the original Oscar winning sound track.Isn't this on the 30th anniversary DVD?EDIT: Oops, just noticed that this is an old thread. Sorry! :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Update:I did dump all my VHS in the garbage.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 What the hell is a VHS??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Attack of the Clones was slightly altered for DVD....the British VHS has a slightly different conclusion (the same as the Cinema Release as far as I can gather) to th Obi-Wan/Jango Fett fight in the Arena...wha?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I think Greg means the Windu/Jango fight. As Lucas points out on the commentary, they added some extra sparks to Jango's jetpack as he's tossed about by that creature, and then when Windu storms at him, they added some effects to the jet pack that show that he tries to take off, but his pack is malfunctioning (rather than him just standing there like a dumb git). But if it was in place for the DVD, it's probably also on the VHS.Also, isn't the UK version of AotC cut? I think they removed a headbutt from the Obi-Wan/Jango fight at Kamino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 The only things I have left on VHS are things that can't be replaced by DVD. And I still use my VCR to record shows I miss, I havent plucked enough off the money tree to get one of those newfangled Tivo things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Yeah, we still have a VCR too. I need to start pushing for one of those harddisk thingies.- Marc, who's keeping all his VHS's, even the ones he also has on DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Also, isn't the UK version of AotC cut? I think they removed a headbutt from the Obi-Wan/Jango fight at Kamino. Yes. There was a visible splice at this point in the print I saw back in May 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,757 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I have two large shelves of about 30-40 VHS in the living room, half are magic related (my life obsession until music took over) and other are films. Of course it's all DVDs now, and I've had Sky + for my computer for a year now (and Tivo downstairs for 3-4 years).Even my crappy old VHS camcorder was replaced with MiniDV last Christmas...I'm now entirely digital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Duel sounds just fine if you listen to the mono mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Like KM I'm also keeping my VHS copy of CE3K Special Edition VHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I threw that away too...K.M.Who also disposed of his VCR and uses a DVD recorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Also, isn't the UK version of AotC cut? I think they removed a headbutt from the Obi-Wan/Jango fight at Kamino. Yes. There was a visible splice at this point in the print I saw back in May 2002.Why would they do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 There were two masters if I remember right. One was for IMAX and another was for other theaters...In all honesty, I remember there being something different in Episode I than is on the DVD...When Padme gets back into her chambers and says to Nute and Gunray "Now, Viceroy, we will discuss a New Treaty!" I could have sworn I remember that door they jammed slamming right after that, seperating the camera from the room.Oh well...I do have a friend who got the original Terminator on Tape... you know, the one before Maria Shriver said she didn't want people to see Arnolds... :-DI still have yet to borrow the video from her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Also, isn't the UK version of AotC cut? I think they removed a headbutt from the Obi-Wan/Jango fight at Kamino. Yes. There was a visible splice at this point in the print I saw back in May 2002.Why would they do that?For some reason headbutts are not allowed in films in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 like in their soccer games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 For some reason headbutts are not allowed in films in the UK.Well they are, but the film has to be 15+ rated, so you can kinda see why they didn't want that for Attack of the Clones. They edited out some headbutting in a few of the James Bond films as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Are nunchucks still banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Also, isn't the UK version of AotC cut? I think they removed a headbutt from the Obi-Wan/Jango fight at Kamino. Yes. There was a visible splice at this point in the print I saw back in May 2002.Why would they do that?For some reason headbutts are not allowed in films in the UK.Hmmmm...thats weird. Oh well, they snip nudity over here, no matter what the f*cking rating is. Grrrr... :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 they snip nudity over here, no matter what the f*cking rating is.Was that double entendre intentional? Are nunchucks still banned?I think Clouseau uses them in one of the Pink Panther films. :spiny: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 There were two masters if I remember right. One was for IMAX and another was for other theaters...There was a version for 35mm prints and a version for digital projection.Because the digital version had a later delivery date, there were some changes in that one made after the 35mm edition had been shipped.They include an alternate take of Padmé getting up after she's fallen out of the gunship, and a shot of Padmé taking Anakin's mechanical hand at the wedding (instead of just a shot of the hand). These were all present on the DVD.When AotC was released in IMAX, the format didn't allow for films with a running time of over 120 minutes, so over 20 minutes was cut from that release.In all honesty, I remember there being something different in Episode I than is on the DVD...When Padme gets back into her chambers and says to Nute and Gunray "Now, Viceroy, we will discuss a New Treaty!" I could have sworn I remember that door they jammed slamming right after that, seperating the camera from the room.I've never heard about that one, but the podrace starting grid scene, the second lap of the race itself, and the arrival at Coruscant have all been extended. One shot is cut, which is the establishing shot of Palpatine's quarters from the theatrical cut. It has become redundant now that there is a long scene of them flying through Coruscant.They also removed two cameo's in the senate scene. There were two crew members (one of them being costume designer Trisha Biggar (sp?)) behind the big Twi'lek. They have been replaced by Twi'leks.- Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 Was the previous version on the VHS of Phantom Menace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Yes. The new scenes were completed for the DVDs deleted scenes section, and some of them put back into the film for the DVD.I saw a widescreen VHS at Blokker for 5 Euros a year ago or so. Don't know if they still have it, but if you're interested in seeing the original cut, it might be worth giving a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 I think I have one already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Then I suggest you hang on to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Because the digital version had a later delivery date, there were some changes in that one made after the 35mm edition had been shipped.They include an alternate take of Padmé getting up after she's fallen out of the gunship, and a shot of Padmé taking Anakin's mechanical hand at the wedding (instead of just a shot of the hand). These were all present on the DVD.Hmm...I didnt watch it on digital, but the screening I watched DEFINITELY had Padme getting up and Anakin's robot hand...they snip nudity over here, no matter what the f*cking rating is.Was that double entendre intentional? No actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Because the digital version had a later delivery date, there were some changes in that one made after the 35mm edition had been shipped.They include an alternate take of Padmé getting up after she's fallen out of the gunship, and a shot of Padmé taking Anakin's mechanical hand at the wedding (instead of just a shot of the hand). These were all present on the DVD.Hmm...I didnt watch it on digital, but the screening I watched DEFINITELY had Padme getting up and Anakin's robot hand...The 35mm print I saw didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm definitely not mistaken either, because I remember dad laughing at the Padme getting up scene. Also, I saw it on the first day just like everyone else. I'm not sure about the sparks on Jango though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm not talking about a shot of her getting up. It's a pan down from his shoulder to his arm. The 35mm print I saw had the robot arm hanging there, his fingers slightly twitching. In the DLP version and on the DVD, they take each other's hand. It's just that one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I still have my Laserdisc collection.The only videos I have are a few sporting events that I taped from the 80's and early 90's and my home movies of my kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm not talking about a shot of her getting up. It's a pan down from his shoulder to his arm. The 35mm print I saw had the robot arm hanging there, his fingers slightly twitching. In the DLP version and on the DVD, they take each other's hand. It's just that one shot.Hmm. Then I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Are nunchucks still banned?I believe even Dr Who got edited! Back in 1977 a story called The Talons of Weng Chiang had a shot of someone getting killed with a throwing star. That scene has since been snipped. How stupid! It's Dr Who for heavens sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I'm definitely keeping my VHS copies of the Spider- Man films that were made 30 years ago.And my CE3K Special Edition.AND my ROTS VHS, only because it was said there won't be any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 How stupid! It's Dr Who for heavens sake!Crouching Doctor, Hidden Tardis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Are nunchucks still banned?I believe even Dr Who got edited! Back in 1977 a story called The Talons of Weng Chiang had a shot of someone getting killed with a throwing star. That scene has since been snipped. How stupid! It's Dr Who for heavens sake!What, it's edited on the DVD? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I don't know. I just know that at some point they cut a second or so out of the scene where Leela throws a star in episode 1. Does the DVD appear cut at that point? I don't own it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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