MrScratch 294 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 http://supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=1271Wonderful news!Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Interesting. With Brando departed, can they include his scenes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,807 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Bring Williams now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 I've been wondering this too since the Brando footage, or at least some of it, is being used in Singer's Superman movie. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Hmm. Williams on Superman II... That could be VERY interesting indeed. CALLING WARNER BROS. SET ASIDE A COOL MILLION FOR MASTER J WILLIAMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 Williams wouldn't do it even if they did offer it to him. I'd love to hear a Superman II original score by John though...Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I don't know. I think he would consider it. He really thinks Superman 1 is one of his best efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Superman II is the great John Williams score we never got to hear.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I'd rather have tracked cues from Superman - The Movie than the awfully amateurish re-recordings in the film. Incidentally - anyone know why they did bother to re-record it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Because Lucas had not yet "pushed the envelope" towards the cut and paste jobs seen in the prequels. After all, back then, they weren't "constantly in a digital arena," where artistry is just a mouseclick away!- Marc, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orson 1 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 This is a most interesting development. If by some miracle Williams was asked to do an original score, I couldn't possibly see why he would say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridan 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Other projects?I think the only way he'd do this id if they were re-releasing it into theatres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I've been waiting for this for a while, not quite as long as others, but enough. The one thing I hoped we'd gain from it is another score from John Williams, it wouldn't make sense not hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 does anyone think he can save this trainwreck?Its funny that as a younger person in the early 80's I thought it was great, then good, now I realize its just mediocre at best, saved by the remarkable performances of the two leading characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artyjeffrey 20 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 This is a most interesting development. If by some miracle Williams was asked to do an original score, I couldn't possibly see why he would say no.The odds are against it. I recall reading something about how those damn Salkinds attempted to pull some technical contractual crap with both Williams and Brando regarding using their material in the sequels. That's why Jor-El in Superman II was not seen and was voiced by some other actor, and of course, Williams didn't score Supes II but his themes were retreaded by good ol' Ken Thorne and performed by what sounded like a high school band.By the way, I recall the Salkinds ran into similar troubles before when they produced a sequel to their Three Musketeers movie with leftover footage. The actors were pissed when they didn't get paid for the sequel!Either way, thank God Donner is doing this. I was one of the SuperGeeks who petitioned Warner Bros last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 This is a most interesting development. If by some miracle Williams was asked to do an original score, I couldn't possibly see why he would say no.The odds are against it. I recall reading something about how those damn Salkinds attempted to pull some technical contractual crap with both Williams and Brando regarding using their material in the sequels. That's why Jor-El in Superman II was not seen and was voiced by some other actor, and of course, Williams didn't score Supes II but his themes were retreaded by good ol' Ken Thorne and performed by what sounded like a high school band.By the way, I recall the Salkinds ran into similar troubles before when they produced a sequel to their Three Musketeers movie with leftover footage. The actors were pissed when they didn't get paid for the sequel!Either way, thank God Donner is doing this. I was one of the SuperGeeks who petitioned Warner Bros last year!It's been 25 years, hopefully feelings have changed and Donner knows what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I'd love for it to happen, but given the number of direct-to-video releases Williams has done in the past, I don't see this one happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Looks like it may no longer be wishful thinking, Mr Breathmask!This is good news.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Superman II is the great John Williams score we never got to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 It's only fitting they bring back Donner to "finish" this movie. It is almost like an apology with them re-hiring him. Maybe they'll put in super flashing CGI elements to make it look better.Deangone fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Looks like it may no longer be wishful thinking, Mr Breathmask!This is good news....Well, I was trying not to get everyone's hopes up, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 does anyone think he can save this trainwreck?So, you've seen all of Donner's Superman II footage? Tell us more about it.Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 seriously Maestro, are you so dense, I'm talking about the current film, do you really think that he can save it.and yes I've seen some of the footage, and some of it is very bad too, not Donner's fault but the fault of the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 are you stupid?I know you are but what am I? OK, Joe, now can we talk like big people?I'm talking about the current film, do you really think that he can save it.With a re-edit, new score, new main titles, touched up effects and some alternate footage (plenty of which we know to exist), yes! That's what a "Special Edition" is, Joe.Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 no maestro thats not a special edition but an entirely different film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 But in the case of Superman II, is that a bad thing? You could say the same about the remastered Jaws CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 But in the case of Superman II, is that a bad thing? You could say the same about the remastered Jaws CD.Huh?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I stiill have my doubts, S2 is pretty much a train wreck, I don't know how they can miraculously save it and transform it into anything close to the quality of the first Supes. All the money might not be enough, everything in the current version is bad (sfx, sound, editing, acting (ok except ZOD!) cinematography, etc...). It just feels like a rushed tv movie from the early 80's. But the worse thing is the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 does anyone think he can save this trainwreck?Its funny that as a younger person in the early 80's I thought it was great, then good, now I realize its just mediocre at best, saved by the remarkable performances of the two leading characters.I agree and feel the same way.Frankly this project is about 5 years too late in the making. It should have been done while While Brando and Chris Reeve were still with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I thoght it was pretty good when it came out in theater,I liked it more than Superman the Movie back then.Of course I saw it on TV recently and it's not as good as I remembered it.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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