A24 4,333 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 In that case ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Definitely his worst solo album this century. Still pretty good mostly, though. "Chaos and Creation in the Backyard" and "New" are his most worthwhile of the past decade or so. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Eh ... That was pure Beatles . Could have been on the Abbey Road album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I've never been a huge fan of any of the Beatles' post-breakup output, at least not in the "full album" sense of the word. Lots of good songs from all four, even Ringo on occasion. Chaos and Creation was a pretty good McCartney album though, IMO. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Nothing he's put out this century is exactly a classic, but I always play his albums a bunch. It's just a comforting sound. It's always pleasant to be listening to new McCartney. In terms of actual classic pop albums, up there with the Beatles albums, McCartney has only released two. Ram and Band on the Run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 We're all different. I've never been a big fan of McCartney's solo albums but I do like Chaos and MAF. Many McCartney fans didn't like Chaos, BTW. They felt it wasn't a real McCartney album. Like I said, we're all different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 He's always enjoyable. It's mostly just nice to hear a set of songs that are (a) actually focused on songwriting, on existing as songs and (b) thoughtfully produced and arranged for actual musicians to play together. Uncommon in today's pop. It seems like most pop songs today are just mood pieces, meant to convey a general attitude. I don't hear much craft in terms of melodies. I'm just old, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I liked that song he did with the surviving Nirvana members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: He's always enjoyable. It's mostly just nice to hear a set of songs that are (a) actually focused on songwriting, on existing as songs and (b) thoughtfully produced and arranged for actual musicians to play together. Uncommon in today's pop. It seems like most pop songs today are just mood pieces, meant to convey a general attitude. I don't hear much craft in terms of melodies. I'm just old, probably. You'll probably hate the song (remember, we're all different) but I think Vanity Fair on Chaos is the best thing he's done in his solo career. That and the intro of Band on The Run ... (Like you, mama, like you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" will always be my favorite McCartney solo song. I like it when he's a bit silly, but not too silly. "Let 'Em In" walks that line well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: It seems like most pop songs today are just mood pieces, meant to convey a general attitude. I don't hear much craft in terms of melodies. I'm just old, probably. You're not old. It is the truth. I'm young and I realize this. Most of what is being written sounds soulless and mass-produced. Couple of examples: The "Never Be The Same" single from that Havana girl had an excellent structure, but insipid lyrics. Uninspired melody. Grande's "No Tears Left To Cry" has a very strong chorus, in spite of the thick autotune, and absolutely nothing else. The Cromatics's latest single is an example of a mood piece done right, to me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I certainly love my fair share of mood pieces. Lately especially blues-based riffing in both jazz and pop. But lots of experimental electronic stuff in the past. But man I miss pop songcraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Mood pieces ... Is that your description of contemporary hit music? I don't feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I may have posted this on here before; still I don't think I could ever get sick of this song! It's just so good. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 7/9/2018 at 5:31 PM, Disco Stu said: It seems like most pop songs today are just mood pieces, Mood pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Marian Schedenig said: Mood pieces. Where’re you going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 It's up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 @Disco Stu I don't know if you're a fan of George Clinton or not, but as a fan of Steely Dan you might like some of the horns in this track on his newest album (he arranges all of this stuff!): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Vid not showing in my primitive country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Shucks, I heard these types of videos started working in countries outside the US, guess it's not universal. Hopefully this works: 26 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Vid not showing in my primitive country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I love they still have that vintage funk sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Alexcremers said: I love they still have that vintage funk sound. This track is a tad bit more of a stylistic throwback than other tracks on the album: overall, there's a great of synthesis of every decade from the '60s to '10s (up to '18!). It's still as consistently weird, groovy, and layered as anything George Clinton has done over the last 40+ years. He's a true musical legend! Oh, and for @kaseykockroach: (Listen for a few seconds, you'll get it Imagine hearing that after 7 or so minutes of this track!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I don't get why I particularly came to mind here, but this is AWESOME! Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: I don't get why I particularly came to mind here, but this is AWESOME! With @artyjeffrey's reign long since past, you're the King of Cartoons on JWFan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 There was another cartoon fan present before my arrival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 For selfish reasons I would prefer to avoid this, but...*sigh*, Kasey, perhaps it's time for you to know more about JWFan's past. May this tome enlighten you: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Nick Parker said: @Disco Stu I don't know if you're a fan of George Clinton or not, but as a fan of Steely Dan you might like some of the horns in this track on his newest album (he arranges all of this stuff!): I have dutifully tried to get into Parliament/Funkadelic many times over the past 15 years. As someone obsessed with classic pop music of the 50s-70s, I know how important they are in the history of soul/funk/r&b/disco/hip hop. I own several of the classic 70s albums on vinyl, all of them digitally. I appreciate the production and the grooves, but something about those albums always seemed to keep me at a distance. I never felt like I was immersing myself in the songs the way you do with your favorite music. Partly I think Clinton's particular brand of goofiness never really did it for me. I really like a few songs though of course. "One Nation Under a Groove," "P. Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)" etc. I will give this track the old college try though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: I will give this track the old college try though! You sure you can do it without your parents? Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I hardly think I'm unique in having my parents help me with college tuition! Believe me, I had my share of student loan debt coming out. It just wasn't an overwhelming, crushing burden that followed me all of my adult life like it is for some. As for the Parliament track... eh. It's an incredibly faithful and vibrant sounding recreation of their classic sound, which is impressive. But there's a lack of focus to Clinton and co's funk that just rubs me the wrong way. Languorous and long-winded. It's not the lengths of the tracks, but embedded in the riffs and grooves themselves. A few years back I started getting SUPER into soul jazz/jazz funk of the 60s and early 70s. Those can be similarly laid back and take a long time, but there's an incredible tightness to the ensembles at their best where everyone feels locked into each other. I love how reliable and fun they are. Every track is the same basically: a. present main melody, b. let each player solo one after the other as the rhythm section lays down the groove, c. close with main melody. Very comforting. Some of these players are incredible and they sound like they're having a blast. I tend to gravitate to the grooviest drummers. Here are two favorite tracks, one with Bernard Purdie on drums, the other with Idris Muhammad. Both are two of the most incredible drummers of the last century. I could bliss out to this music for hours. Many, many tracks from this period and style form the basis for lots of hip hop songs of the 80s to early 90s. 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: For selfish reasons I would prefer to avoid this, but...*sigh*, Kasey, perhaps it's time for you to know more about JWFan's past. May this tome enlighten you: By the way, it's always interesting going through these very old threads. So many of the personalities who are still around today seem so much less... sour. More light, fun, and carefree. Adulthood sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Languorous and long-winded. It's not the lengths of the tracks, but embedded in the riffs and grooves themselves. I can understand that, but for me one of the joys of Clinton's material is how he'll subtly and sometimes not-so-subtly weaves different layers and ideas over the same core, sometimes adding subliminal variations as slight as a single piano note, to very extreme changes. Its fluidity is like one of those paintings where the image subtly changes depending on the perspective you look at it from. 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: By the way, it's always interesting going through these very old threads. So many of the personalities who are still around today seem so much less... sour. More light, fun, and carefree. Adulthood sucks. I try to stay away from those..not only was I a dumb 15 year old then, but let's say my familiarity with the English language then was...developing. I can hardly recognize myself when I read those posts, they were so...stiff. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Nick Parker said: I try to stay away from those..not only was I a dumb 15 year old then, but let's say my familiarity with the English language then was...developing. I can hardly recognize myself when I read those posts, they were so...stiff. I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like every one is more sour now than they were 10 years ago. Maybe we really are at a low point, in terms of mood, across humanity. In the West at least. Once again I blame social media. Knowing the thoughts of everyone all the time isn't actually a good thing. Great quote from Jonathan Franzen, especially that last bit about letting the thoughts of other people define your day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Nice quote, Stu. Your values are twisted, let us help you decide...you may walk like we do, talk like we do, but you know how it is..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Nick Parker said: For selfish reasons I would prefer to avoid this, but...*sigh*, Kasey, perhaps it's time for you to know more about JWFan's past. May this tome enlighten you: I hope this doesn't imply I'm obligated to draw John Powell comics.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just now, kaseykockroach said: I hope this doesn't imply I'm obligated to draw John Powell comics.. Don't make me start a petition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 John Powell: Severin, you have forgotten who you are, and so have forgotten me. You must take your place in the film score fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 One of the best young rock acts in the world right now She’s Australian and she’s freaking awesome SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Thanks for that. I dig it. May I reciprocate with another young up and coming Australian artist? Her guitar work reminds me of Hendrix, mixed with some reggae and psych sounds. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I've been nervous to post what kind of music I'm into when I'm not playing film scores...but what the hey, I'll throw it out here and prepare to hide. I tend to throw these into film score playlists, depending on if or where I see fit. And probably my favorite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: I've been nervous to post what kind of music I'm into when I'm not playing film scores...but what the hey, I'll throw it out here and prepare to hide. I tend to throw these into film score playlists, depending on if or where I see fit. Was gonna say this sounded familiar, but I then realized I was thinking of the Splatoon soundtrack. Ever listen to Capsule? You might like them. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Oooh, that reminds me! ❤️ I adore this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The La's are life-affirming manna from heaven On 7/22/2018 at 11:02 PM, Koray Savas said: Thanks for that. I dig it. May I reciprocate with another young up and coming Australian artist? Her guitar work reminds me of Hendrix, mixed with some reggae and psych sounds. Nice. Laid-back vibes. On 7/23/2018 at 12:18 AM, kaseykockroach said: Oooh, that reminds me! ❤️ I adore this! I remember finding this song strangely hypnotic. In a "can't stop watching a really gruesome car crash" kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 This youtuber speaks big truths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 From her best album: Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I feel a little creepy for being a middle age man and liking Grace VanderWaal but think this song is cute and catchy. Amazing natural talent since she is writer, composer, and performer and only 14 years old! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Disco Stu's Top 20 Pop/Rock Albums of 1979 1. The B-52’s - self-titled 2. David Bowie - Lodger 3. Electric Light Orchestra - Discovery 4. Fleetwood Mac - Tusk 5. Talking Heads - Fear of Music 6. XTC - Drums and Wires 7. Led Zeppelin - In Through the Out Door 8. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps 9. AC/DC - Highway to Hell 10. The Undertones - self-titled 11. Supertramp - Breakfast in America 12. Michael Jackson - Off the Wall 13. Tom Petty - Damn the Torpedoes 14. Elvis Costello - Armed Forces 15. Gary Numan - The Pleasure Principle 16. Chic - Risque 17. ZZ Top - Deguello 18. Dave Edmunds - Repeat When Necessary 19. The Alan Parsons Project - Eve 20. Randy Newman - Born Again Disco Stu's Top 10 Singles of 1979 1. The B-52's - "Dance This Mess Around" 2. Electric Light Orchestra - "Don't Bring Me Down" 3. David Bowie - "Boys Keep Swinging" 4. Buzzcocks - "Everybody's Happy Nowadays" 5. XTC - "Making Plans for Nigel" 6. Talking Heads - "Life During Wartime" 7. Michael Jackson - "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" 8. Chic - "Good Times" 9. Dave Edmunds - "Girls Talk" 10. The Cars - "Let's Go" SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Disco Stu's Top 20 Pop/Rock Albums of 1980 1. Steely Dan - Gaucho 2. Peter Gabriel - Melt 3. XTC - Black Sea 4. David Bowie - Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps) 5. Rush - Permanent Waves 6. Talking Heads - Remain in Light 7. The B-52’s - Wild Planet 8. The Clash - London Calling 9. Rockpile - Seconds of Pleasure 10. AC/DC - Back in Black 11. Siouxsie and the Banshees - Kaleidoscope 12. Queen - The Game 13. The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms 14. The Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight 15. Ultravox - Vienna 16. Prince - Dirty Mind 17. The Cure - Seventeen Seconds 18. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz 19. The Jam - Sound Affects 20. The Alan Parsons Project - The Turn of a Friendly Card Disco Stu's Top 10 Singles of 1980 1. Steely Dan - "Time Out of Mind" 2. Rush - "Freewill" 3. XTC - "Love at First Sight" 4. The B-52's - "Give Me Back My Man" 5. Ramones - "Do You Remember Rock 'n' Roll Radio?" 6. Peter Gabriel - "Games Without Frontiers" 7. The Romantics - "What I Like About You" 8. Siouxsie and the Banshees - "Christine" 9. Mission of Burma - "Academy Fight Song" 10. Roxy Music - "Oh Yeah" Ok, I'm done.... for now. I just became a man possessed for a while there. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Ok, I'm done.... for now. I just became a man possessed for a while there. You're scaring me, Stu. I'm half expecting you to make...to make a poll, soon. If you do that, know that I _will_ do the honorable thing and mercy kill you by snapping your neck. Quick, painless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Oh I'd never ask anyone else to make lists on such esoteric topics. I can at least guarantee you that I'm probably the first person in the world to include both "uncoolest progressive rock band in the world and that's saying something" The Alan Parsons Project and "way too cool for school except college punk rock radio" Mission of Burma on a best of rock list. The game I'm playing with myself right now is predicting which song or album above Richard will pick out to quote and say "Nice one, Stu" SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Hmm. "'The game' I'm playing". Is that a clue? I like THE GAME, but I like JAZZ, and HOT SPACE even more. Some of these I've heard, and some I haven't. I'm not going to say what I like and what I don't, but I will say this... where's I WANT YOUR LOVE, SHINE A LITTLE LOVE, D.J., BABYLON SISTERS and THE SPIRIT OF RADIO? Where's TELEKON, RISQUÉ, FLESH+BLOOD, MANIFESTO and I AM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Richard said: Hmm. "'The game' I'm playing". Is that a clue? I like THE GAME, but I like JAZZ, and HOT SPACE even more. Some of these I've heard, and some I haven't. I'm not going to say what I like and what I don't, but I will say this... where's I WANT YOUR LOVE, SHINE A LITTLE LOVE, D.J., BABYLON SISTERS and THE SPIRIT OF RADIO? Where's TELEKON, RISQUÉ, FLESH+BLOOD, MANIFESTO and I AM? Choices had to be made, Richard. 8 hours ago, Richard said: I like THE GAME, but I like JAZZ, and HOT SPACE even more. They weren't released in '79 or '80. 8 hours ago, Richard said: I WANT YOUR LOVE, SHINE A LITTLE LOVE, D.J., BABYLON SISTERS and THE SPIRIT OF RADIO? I only did 10 singles so I only allowed any given artist to have one song each on there. 8 hours ago, Richard said: RISQUÉ #16 on the 1979 list! 8 hours ago, Richard said: FLESH+BLOOD, MANIFESTO Not my favorite Roxy era, but I do dearly love "Oh Yeah," which is it's #10 on the 1980 singles list Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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