Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It's LOTR sans the songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I'd be more sold on my (joking) 300 idea, but I don't think that score needs 2 discs and I also don't think that OST could be "greatly" expanded. What about Master and Commander? I don't know much about that score. I liked the movie, but haven't seen it in over a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hardly an “epic” though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 A couple more suggestions from a look on IMDB. However, they all have the same problem: why would 2 album tracks not be available? The Last Samurai King Kong Alexander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 This will be really annoying for a few days. If it's songs, why's he mentioning them? If it's score cues.... why? I can only think of a soloist not giving permission or wanting too much money. Kingdom of Heaven does have some soloists (including Lisbeth Scott) on a bunch of cues. Come to think of it, Lisbeth Scott did 'Where' on Narnia, and is featured in Evacuating London. (ironically, one score cue where I think the vocal is uneeded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Both Troy and Kingdom of Heaven seem more like LLL kind of territory anyway (WB, Sony etc). Disney seems to be at least partially involved in Narnia so it makes sense. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 And Alexander doesn't seem likely to me. Vangelis probably has veto power on what can be released and he doesn't seem to be very fond of expanded editions of his scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yeah they were just vague suggestions really. I think Narnia is the best idea so far. Edit - another good suggestion at FSM - Gods and Generals. The OST starts and ends with songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Also: Do we revolt against Intrada if they want us to get excited about a Confederacy-glorifying Civil War film with a score from freaking John Frizzell and Randy Edelman (Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hah. It's not an expansion I'm clamouring for - the OST is fine by me. I do hope it's Narnia - some flipping awesome unreleased music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 6:00 PM, BloodBoal said: The question is: do we consider 2003 to be mid-00s? There are ten years in a decade, so if you say early, mid, and late '00s, that's three years per era, plus theoretically one year of wiggle room. So the mid-'00s run from either '03-'06 or '04-'06, I'd say. In other words ... sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 'Kingdom of Heaven' would be the most deserving of an 'epic' expansion. 'Narnia' was lame temp-track galore or so i remember. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I would suggest The New World, but like Troy, the album only has one song at the end; probably based on one of Horner's themes and therefore related to the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 6 hours ago, publicist said: 'Kingdom of Heaven' would be the most deserving of an 'epic' expansion. 'Narnia' was lame temp-track galore or so i remember. Absolutely! One of Gregson-Williams' best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Narnia? Sure, Inky. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Har-de-har-har. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 From a new press release: Quote Both releases probably qualify as “epics”, not only because they are set in spectacular periods of history but also because of the sheer volume of powerful music each release contains. Both composers represented have Academy Awards, too. http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f Well, it's not Narnia! Gregson-Williams has no Oscar. Guess it's Troy after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Could be King Arthur. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 True Oscar score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I've never heard it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 King Arthur would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 There's still a chance it's The New World. Though honestly neither King Arthur nor that need any kind of expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Apocalypto hasn't been mentioned yet. Another film/score that fits every clue but the licensing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 If it is Troy then not having Josh Groban there would have been a godsend actually. Horner should be prosecuted and put away for this crime against humanity. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 FOOOOR ALLLLLLWAAAAAAAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Troy: the whole score stinks, conceptually. To have the danger motif again front and center (and that lame-ass love theme reminiscing 'Stargate') just wrecks it. There's one really good cue ('The Trojan's Attack'), the rest, alas...if anything connected to that movie, the Yared, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I like this score actually. It's a surprisingly solid album. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I tried (it's a Horner epic, after all), but no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 The OST is far too long. Like many post Titanic Horner album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So I take you don't want an expansion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I do. Ideally, we could have both in one massive set. But that won't happen. Karol Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Perhaps the licencing issues are related to Prokofiev and RVW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Sssttt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Perhaps the licencing issues are related to Prokofiev and RVW? Was it not Shostakovich who should be most upset? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Britten, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, crocodile said: Was it not Shostakovich who should be most upset? I forget what's in it. Never bought the CD. The one that really annoyed me when I saw the film was the Battle on the Ice clone for the scene that was also cloned from Nevsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Boys, he fucking repurposed the fucking WAR REQUIEM as triumphant fanfare for Troy. That was a true criminal act of misappropriation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 47 minutes ago, publicist said: Boys, he fucking repurposed the fucking WAR REQUIEM as triumphant fanfare for Troy. That was a true criminal act of misappropriation. I can tell you this: It is indeed the Britten quoted "Troy" cue that is left off of this album for licensing reasons. As for what you said, well....Cry me a river...Are people always this bitter? And why be bitter anyway? Unless someone literally pisses in your corn flakes, what is with all the hostility? Horner was always clear about this - when he quotes someone he's deliberately NOT hiding it, he's making it as obvious as he can and building his music around the quotes. Why this still plugs butts around here and elsewhere is just plain sad. I mean come on, of all the things people complain about...I've never once in my life understood the bitterness because to me it's right up there with people butthurt over superhero casting choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 hour ago, crocodile said: I do. Ideally, we could have both in one massive set. But that won't happen. Karol Well Horner was the only reason Wolfen wasn’t a double CD set, so with him gone it might be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, NL197 said: I can tell you this: It is indeed the Britten quoted "Troy" cue that is left off of this album for licensing reasons. As for what you said, well....Cry me a river...Are people always this bitter? And why be bitter anyway? Unless someone literally pisses in your corn flakes, what is with all the hostility? Horner was always clear about this - when he quotes someone he's deliberately NOT hiding it, he's making it as obvious as he can and building his music around the quotes. Why this still plugs butts around here and elsewhere is just plain sad. I mean come on, of all the things people complain about...I've never once in my life understood the bitterness because to me it's right up there with people butthurt over superhero casting choices. Do you even have any idea what Britten's War Requiem is or represents? (Your honour, on further thought I withdraw the question)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Horners Troy copy allows one to enjoy the music removed from its original context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 It can't and shouldn't be removed. It's just an awfully careless, even crass steal, considering Horner knew exactly what he was stealing from. He already did in 'Cocoon' and 'Star Trek II' but that was a comparably minor passage but this is a major part devoted to the mourning and the remembrance of all the martyrs from the last two WW's. Repurposing it as just another triumphant fanfare (for the city of Troy) may not be a war crime but it reeks of intellectual arrogance on Horner's part (the idiots watching this picture will not notice anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Don't mince words, Pub. Tell me what you really think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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