KK 3,307 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I can think of at least three soundtracks by Glass which I find more entertaining than Notes on a Scandal: The Hours, The Illusionist, and Mishima. Notes on a Scandal is a better film score than all of those. I'd rank the ones you listed as follows: 1) Notes on a Scandal 2) The Hours 3) The Illusionist 4) Mishima --> this worked best in its concert format anyway (String Quartet No. 3) Granted, I will concede that Notes on a Scandal is the least notorious of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Yeah and it seems to get worse and worse as you progress through the score. The deterioration I refer to that occurs during disc 2 includes the horrendous sound. The bad '97 sound quality could mean the tapes were already beginning to deteriorate, and who knows how their condition are now, 20 years laser... maybe they're damaged beyond repair. That would probably imply that a future new release would have to work with the digitizing done for the '97 release. 18 minutes ago, KK said: Notes on a Scandal is a better film score than all of those. I'd rank the ones you listed as follows: 1) Notes on a Scandal 2) The Hours 3) The Illusionist 4) Mishima --> this worked best in its concert format anyway (String Quartet No. 3) Granted, I will concede that Notes on a Scandal is the least notorious of the bunch. In your opinion it's a better film score, you mean. I'd like to clarify that I'm referring to the album presentations, not how the scores are experienced in the films. In the album presentation, Notes on a Scandal feels to me more like background music than the other albums. But nice and very atmospheric background music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: In your opinion it's a better film score, you mean. Well sure, that goes without saying, doesn't it? 8 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'd like to clarify that I'm referring to the album presentations, not how the scores are experienced in the films. In the album presentation, Notes on a Scandal feels more like background music than the other albums. But nice and very atmospheric background music. I would make the same argument in that case as well. Of the bunch you listed, only The Hours makes a good album experience for me. I have little patience for The Illusionist, and Mishima runs too long as an album. Notes on a Scandal is about as close to perfect as Glass got with his film score albums, alongside Kundun and The Hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 ROTJ is definitely the original trilogy score that will benefit the most from the modern day Matessino treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, KK said: Well sure, that goes without saying, doesn't it? You've got that right. I hate that stupid redundant "in my opinion" saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Baby Jane Hudson said: You've got that right. I hate that stupid redundant "in my opinion" saying. I don't really care either way if someone decides to include it in their own posts. But yeah, someone else saying "in your opinion" is incredibly redundant. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I don't really care either way if someone decides to include it in their own posts. But yeah, someone else saying "in your opinion" is incredibly redundant. Oh of course, when the schoolmarm, language police show up to remind you that you're meant to say it are just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, KK said: I would make the same argument in that case as well. Of the bunch you listed, only The Hours makes a good album experience for me. I have little patience for The Illusionist, and Mishima runs too long as an album. Notes on a Scandal is about as close to perfect as Glass got with his film score albums, alongside Kundun and The Hours. I'm listening to Scandal now and certain passages remind me of The Illusionist. I think the latter also has its fair share of background music. I'd say the Scandal album has too little variation for its 50 min. running time. When it comes to Mishima, the variation between tracks makes it an interesting listening experience to the end. I'd rank the Runaway Horses track as one of Glass' best works. In my opinion, the Kundun score has waaay too little variation and details in it, which makes it a boring listening experience. It's like a nice rough draft where the composer didn't have the time to do the necessary refinement. I sold my copy on eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Scandal and Illusionist are indeed quite similar, but the former has a lot more range and personality, so it comes off as the more entertaining work for me. And it's funny you say that, because I hear a lot more variation in Scandal than I do in most Glass scores. Plus it features one of the best climaxes of his film music career. And yes, Kundun isn't the most diverse album musically, but its succinct enough for its hypnotic temperament to not have worn out its welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I don't really care either way if someone decides to include it in their own posts. But yeah, someone else saying "in your opinion" is incredibly redundant. Well, it just sounds a bit kindergarten-like to say This score is better than all the others. That's all. But hey, I don't know the age of all people posting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow by Edward Shearmur Arsène Lupin by Debbie Wiseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Well, it just sound a bit kindergarten-like to say This score is better than all the others. That's all. But hey, I don't know the age of all people posting here. Well, I think that the context of my post makes it quite clear that it was my opinion that that score was better than the ones you listed. I apologize for not having attached a 10-page disclaimer clarifying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, KK said: Well, I think that the context of my post makes it quite clear that it was my opinion that that score was better than the ones you listed. I apologize for not having attached a 10-page disclaimer clarifying this. Apology accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 ...Captain Needa Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Richard said: ...Captain Needa From the best entry of the original trilogy (in my opinion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The second prequel trilogy. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, KK said: Well, I think that the context of my post makes it quite clear that it was my opinion that that score was better than the ones you listed. I apologize for not having attached a 10-page disclaimer clarifying this. I'd also like to apologize - I didn't mean to sound like a troll. I just cannot stomach people who think they've got the answer to everything - amongst which I think you're not. Let's agree that Philip Glass knows how to make good music, and it's good he writes music to satisfy people with different taste! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: I just cannot stomach people who think they've got the answer to everything KK tends to be like that. He's JWFAN's Mr. Know-It-All. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'd also like to apologize - I didn't mean to sound like a troll. I just cannot stomach people who think they've got the answer to everything - amongst which I think you're not. Let's agree that Philip Glass knows how to make good music, and it's good he writes music to satisfy people with different taste! No worries friend! Apologies if I came off as such. And yes, Glass is one cool dude! 6 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: KK tends to be like that. He's JWFAN's Mr. Nice Guy. Aww shucks! You just get me, don't you? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: KK tends to be like that. He's JWFAN's Mr. Know-It-All. Incanus too! Awful people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 War. Huh. What is it good for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Made me think about this great track: James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Silverado by Bruce Broughton Tombstone by Bruce Broughton Jaws by John Williams Jaws 2 by John Williams Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Titanic Jumanji Casper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by Trevor Jones. This is one comic book/"superhero" score of the modern era that everyone seems to be ignoring. For a good reason, of course, given how godawful this film is. But the score itself, while not a masterpiece of any kind, does offer some fun muscular orchestral material performed by the LSO. The album itself is a big of a mixed bag but there's enough enjoyable material on it to warrant some attention. Karol Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 8 hours ago, KK said: Notes on a Scandal is a better film score than all of those. I'd rank the ones you listed as follows: 1) Notes on a Scandal 2) The Hours 3) The Illusionist 4) Mishima --> this worked best in its concert format anyway (String Quartet No. 3) Granted, I will concede that Notes on a Scandal is the least notorious of the bunch. Kundun is my favorite score of his career and I love how the album feels like one big, consistent orchestral work. And the atmosphere it conveys, as others have said, is quite hypnotic. I'm also very fond of The Secret Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Chinatown - Jerry Goldsmith Sphere - Elliot Goldenthal 2010 - David Shire The Lion in Winter - John Barry Haven't had much free time lately - mostly falling asleep to the above, not even complete listens. Still need to hear the full Justice League deal. 10 hours ago, KK said: I have little patience for The Illusionist I like The Illusionist. Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 1 minute ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Still need to hear the full Justice League deal. You can't! He must stand trial! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 I'm going to listen to this, once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 You will try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 It is mediocrity, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 18 hours ago, Richard said: THE RUSSIA HOUSE, by Jerry Goldsmith. Well, this is nothing less than a class act. Sly, humorous, tense, suspenseful, sultry, sexy, and downright gorgeous. It's a quintessential piece of work, by a master craftsman, at the very top of his game. In a funny/sad way, I'm almost glad that he's not here to hear how film modern music is being flushed, constantly, down the shitter. I suspect that he wouldn't have a good word to say about it, and more power to him, for it! Good ole Jerry. I miss this man more, with each passing year. I remember buying the album as I chanced upon it in a CD store in Rome years ago and I am glad I got it. Such a great score of measured suspense and with a gorgeous part sultry part yearning love theme. But I thought the film was a dull bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Classic small band Burwell, i like it (beware though, it's just a handful of moody guitar/piano cues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Dreamcatcher - James Newton Howard Better than i expected (the complete score is a drag, of course, but at 100 minutes, what isn't?). It's harsher, more uncompromising than the Shymalayan scores but features some of the same imprints. Some of the textural choices are surprisingly original, brief though they often are. It's hard to select a few highlights because the whole thing is so organic - you must stomach a fair share of rumbling, dissonant and even aleatoric passages and there isn't much in the way of 'The Great Eatlon' to salvate the listener. Still, for genre fans it's a forgotten gem that clearly was not just phoned in (like many more recent JNH scores). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Grand Piano by Victor Ryes. Only 5 tracks (32 mins), but the music is quite stylish and suspenseful, although the composer rips off several romantic piano concertos. The end is unfortunately an anticlimax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Great score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Little Children by Thomas Newman Revolutionary Road by Thomas Newman Jarhead by Thomas Newman Angels in America by Thomas Newman It's been one of those days... Koray Savas and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, KK said: Angels in America by Thomas Newman I listened to this one just last night! Easily my most listened to T. Newman album that I own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 It's probably his most comprehensive score. The closest he's gotten to the "complete package", if you will. It has a bit of everything. The scale of the whole thing is quite impressive actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I listened to this one just last night! Easily my most listened to T. Newman album that I own. The Shawshank Redemption, Road to Perdition and Oscar and Lucinda also belong to that list for me. But Angels in America is the best showcase of everything Thomas Newman. Lincoln by John Williams The Book Thief by John Williams Nerakhoon (The Betrayal) by Howard Shore The Lion in Winter by Richard Hartley Assassin's Creed Syndicate by Austin Wintory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Incanus said: The Shawshank Redemption, Road to Perdition and Oscar and Lucinda belong to that list for me. Shawshank is definitely in competition for most listened to. After that, probably Little Women and Bridge of Spies (which I listened to quite a lot last year) come closest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Shawshank, Road to Perdition, Angels in America and Series of Unfortunate Events for me I think. They make his best albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Jane by Philip Glass Yawn. There are a few nice moments, but feels redundant. Nothing you haven't heard before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, KK said: Jane by Philip Glass Yawn. There are a few nice moments, but feels redundant. Nothing you haven't heard before. Glass is becoming increasingly like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Who can blame him? He's in his 80s, well past his creative prime and still writing in a rather restrictive style. He doesn't owe us anything bold or original. He's done his service for the music scene. We'll always have his classics to turn back to. Doesn't make scores like this any less a chore to sit through though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I do wonder why he still takes projects on. I don't think he was ever enamored of the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Gotta pay the bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (35th Anniversary Remastered Edition) Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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