Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Incanus said: War of the Worlds by John Williams: I love the mix of Stravinskian rhythms, apocalyptic kinetic orchestral and choral bombast and delicate Americana string elegies in this one. The use of human voices harkens back to Close Encounters as the Maestro uses them both as a signifier of humanity and something utterly alien and frightening. While not very theme driven vehicle, the aforementioned rhythmic propulsion is the the carrying force of this score and the 60 minute album is a pretty succinct listening experience although I would have loved to hear Williams' synth Prologue and Epilogue sans Morgan Freeman's narration. I'm actually probably gonna pop this one in today, it's one of Williams' most metal scores. An absolutely shining example, recalling a conversation you and I had several weeks ago, of how one can create a cohesive and internally satisfying work without having to rely on melodies applied to a lot of different scenarios. Taikomochi and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Nobody want this CD???? I have two. I ask only the shipping fees. Don't tell me I'm stuck with it!!! Com'on! Media Condition: Near Mint (NM or M-) Sleeve Condition: Very Good (VG) It contains the work "Prelude and fugue" composed by John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Well, this thread is now demonic until we post enough to get to the next page! Currently listening to Cocoon: The Return anyhow. Later, I intend to listen to one of my embarrassing all-time favorites, We're Back: A Dinosaur's Story. Because it's FUN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bespin said: Nobody want this CD???? I have two. I ask only the shipping fees. I'd go for it, but #1 I've heard the album online, and was not entranced #2 I don't own a CD player. And, I'm not allowing myself to be in completist mode at this stage in my life. 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: Later, I intend to listen to one of my embarrassing all-time favorites, We're Back: A Dinosaur's Story. Because it's FUN. Don't be embarrassed. It is a charming score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve McQueen said: I'd go for it, but #1 I've heard the album online, and was not entranced #2 I don't own a CD player. And, I'm not allowing myself to be in completist mode at this stage in my life. False JWfan!!! BAN HIM. 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: Don't be embarrassed. It is a charming score. I'm embarrassed in the aspect that I love James Horner, but I don't give two hoots about Titanic, Braveheart, Willow, most of the big ones I'm told I'm supposed to love. We're Back though? Invigoratingly delightful! SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Bespin said: False JWfan!!! BAN HIM. Have mercy! My heart's in the right place! The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve McQueen said: Have mercy! My heart's in the right place! Do you really have blue eyes, like Steve McQueen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Alas, no. They are light brown, but kind of interesting pattern wise, I guess. And I wear glasses. And I'm socially awkward. So I wish I was like McQueen, but I'm not. I like racing, though. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I love this score to death. It's practically an anti-depressant. If I know work's gonna be hell today, I make sure to put this one on, because it's just so infectiously joyful and bouncy and happy! Will and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Just now, Steve McQueen said: Alas, no. The trickery is complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Nobody want this CD???? I have two. I ask only the shipping fees. Don't tell me I'm stuck with it!!! Com'on! Media Condition: Near Mint (NM or M-) Sleeve Condition: Very Good (VG) It contains the work "Prelude and fugue" composed by John Williams. Great album! How much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: Great album! How much? Just the Shipping fees, I want to get rid of it! I received two copies by error. Write me in private! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Listened to Catch Me if You Can for the first time in a long while (beyond Escapades). A beautiful score, a masterpiece in my mind. When I was younger I thought he relied too much on the Father theme, but now I listen in awe to the transcendental variations he wove. The voicings, the harmonies, the orchestrations...everything here is so transparent and impactful...it drills straight to your chest. My favorite track at the moment: SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Oh, the harmonies indeed! Straight into the soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I love the Father theme, especially with it's similarity to Christmas Star/Accidental Tourist 10 hours ago, Nick Parker said: I'm actually probably gonna pop this one in today, it's one of Williams' most metal scores. An absolutely shining example, recalling a conversation you and I had several weeks ago, of how one can create a cohesive and internally satisfying work without having to rely on melodies applied to a lot of different scenarios. Yep, IIRC the only reocurring music is Williams' typical Dies Irae-esque suspense motive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Falafel said: Yep, IIRC the only reocurring music is Williams' typical Dies Irae-esque suspense motive I always thought it was more of a theme for the family, although in the Epilogue it comes off as a meditation on the frailty of life, and just how uncertain we are of our own mortality. Deeply haunting, wish it stayed in the film's credits. Interestingly, Williams intended it to be a bookend in the beginning and end. There's also a short quasi-motif for the aliens, an Akira Ifukube homage, which is very clear while still being very in line with the tone of everything else. If there's one weakness to Williams in the 2000's, it's the Dies Irae type stuff he used in practically everything. Seriously, it'd be like pointing out individual ants on an anthill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Nick Parker said: If there's one weakness to Williams in the 2000's, it's the Dies Irae type stuff he used in practically everything. Seriously, it'd be like pointing out individual ants on an anthill. In fairness, it started long before the 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Falafel said: In fairness, it started long before the 2000's. Not in the way I'm referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Nick Parker said: Not in the way I'm referring to. Care to list an example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Falafel said: Care to list an example? Oh lord, I can think of at least five in literally two seconds. I'll post some when I'm at a computer, it's way too tine consuming to do from a phone. For now, let's say Williams became very fond of using a note, going up a second (either major or minor), then a semitone or so below the starting note. Usually this all outlines the first four notes of a scale...some complain that Williams' music, particularly for action scenes, became "samey" after the 2000's, and this gesture is one of--in my opinion--the biggest contributors to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Hmm, I personally found his use of Celesta for every mysterious happening in Crystal Skull and Tintin more annoying than anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, Falafel said: Hmm, I personally found his use of Celesta for every mysterious happening in Crystal Skull and Tintin more annoying than anything like that. Crystal Skull, yeah, but Tintin is far more palatable to me. Some examples: On Catch Me if You Can: The insistent little marimba motif On the subject of War of the Worlds: And the fanfare starting at 3:18ish And of course, a lot of Across the Stars is built on this, too. I can post more, but I'd take the site's entire bandwidth. I guess The Lost World is when you really start to hear this take effect (listen to cues like Rescuing Sarah). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Honey I Blew Up the Kid by Bruce Broughton Baby's Day Out by Bruce Broughton Two top-shelf Bruce bonanzas! And then finally ended the work day with... Explorers by Jerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I would say JP (93) is where Williams really started to use it in action cues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIi53aMToEg& https://youtu.be/GwU3oPSVOhE?list=PL7v_KFM4xhO3X8B-2ab_H_nYtpAGEvEwD&t=33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMtMEMjnVz0 https://youtu.be/sFGqlRoZFh8?t=110 https://youtu.be/q-rd1C7aTjo?t=244 https://youtu.be/NgocW6ncYJk?t=69 https://youtu.be/6r2w9ergP1E?t=18 https://youtu.be/j7i34y8w0G4 https://youtu.be/IxKpa7gxSR8?t=12 https://youtu.be/mc7lPhcpdCo?t=26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Catch Me If You Can by John Williams Snow Falling on Cedars by James Newton Howard Themes and Transcriptions for Piano by John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Again with the SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS, @Incanus You must like it, a lot, Inky. It's a great Autumn soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Yes it is a great soundtrack indeed and as you say perfect for autumn mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Theatre of Blood by Michael J. Lewis Balto by James Horner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, Incanus said: Yes it is a great soundtrack indeed and as you say perfect for autumn mood. 'Iris' for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, publicist said: 'Iris' for me. Gosh, thanks! Didn't know you cared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 hours ago, publicist said: 'Iris' for me. Well that too. Although I like to call it "a disguised ode to danger motif". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Something for the Fall weather. Attack of the Clones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: Something for the Fall weather. Attack of the Clones I can see that, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Because that was the fall of the franchise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 It was the only really good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 It was so good it didn't need a plot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Who needs a plot anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Let's see, I'd say today shall be a day for... Operation Dumbo Drop by David Newman Aliens by James Horner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,013 Posted September 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2018 The Fury War of the Worlds Close Encounters of the Third Kind Karol Bespin, Marian Schedenig and Kasey Kockroach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 John Williams/Steven Spielberg: The Ultimate Collection Highlights (the 2-LP program, but using my files from the CDs) and John Williams - The Adventures of Tintin (track 13 removed from the playlist!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, crocodile said: The Fury War of the Worlds Close Encounters of the Third Kind Karol Two of those are great! The other one's boring, but I forgive you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 This Donald Kock is very anoying! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Forget, Bes, its Kock town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: Two of those are great! The other one's boring, but I forgive you. Which one? Your answer will determine what body part I will render unusable with the poison agent I coated that BDH poster you bought off me with. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Which one? Your answer will determine what body part I will render unusable with the poison agent I coated that BDH poster you bought off me with. The only great cue in Close Encounters is The Dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 How's it feel being on the 666th page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: How's it feel being on the 666th page? 😈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: How's it feel being on the 666th page? That's a good question to ask Sev, 'cause he's gonna feel like he's in Hell after his comment on Close Encounters. Seriously! Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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