Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Just now, Lonnegan said: Hmm, this doesn't always happen though. Which ones got good reviews?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Funnily enough Independence Day did alright. What kind of fan are you? You don't seem to have a decent clue about this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 I don't really follow Rotten Tomatoes. But I just checked ID4 and it got 61 per cent. Is that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Barely adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Oh piss off ya couple of dicks. JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Shatner's Rug said: I don't really follow Rotten Tomatoes. But I just checked ID4 and it got 61 per cent. Is that good? The percent is a based on the total number of reviews that are positive vs those that are negative or wishy washy. It is actually not a reflection of the films actual quality. There is also an average grade which is somewhat more reflective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 If we're going down the aggregate road I'll always try anything over 50 percent and have often gone lower. I seem to recall legendary Brit film critic Kim Newman gave ID4 a cracking good review back in the day. He being particular fan of all things sci-fi, horror and schlock. It was he who made me see ID4 at the pictures. Anyway, are we officially calling 60% on RT a "panning" now, then? Just so I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 No. Rottentomatoes.com sets what they call fresh and what they call rotten. Under 60 % is rotten. Just like in most schools under 60 % is a failing grade. But anyone who doesn't go the a movie based on a rottentomatoes.com score is a blithering idiot. It's a tool and or guide. A bunch of us really liked X-men Apocalypse and it's certified rotten. If initial reviews guided us,on everything films like Psycho, Wizard of Oz, and It a Wonderful Life would not be classics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Just like in most schools under 60 % is a failing grade. Is this an American thing? Around these parts, 50 per cent is the threshold of a pass or fail grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 It was for me in grade school and college. Some teachers were tougher. Analytical Geometry was 95 to 100 A, 94 to 85 B, etc. In my actual work grade on one aspect of my job 94 is unsatisfactory which I sadly found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Ah. Down Under, grading works like this: High Distinction (HD) - 85-100% Distinction (D) - 75-84% Credit (C) - 65-74% Pass (P) - 50-64% Fail (F) - 0-49% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Yet ANOTHER clip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 You can hear an actual orchestra in the score, rather amazing for a modern action film score. And geez, John Williams would kill for prevalence in the sound mix like that. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Nice to hear the orchestra and not just brahmmmmmms!!!! and electronic drums. This score might be okay. My interest in the music is growing. But my interest in the film is still decreasing. Those effects look utter trash and the whole 'sucking-up-everything-and-dropping-it-back-down-to-destroy-it' thing was done in transformers and that even looked better. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 12 hours ago, Shatner's Rug said: Yet ANOTHER clip! How many more do you reckon you need now to have seen the majority of the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Let's see if they release another clip tomorrow... and then the day after tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Usually those clips are not properly mixed, so I wouldn't expect that to be how you'll hear the music on the big screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 You can hear music coming from a screen?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 If there's a speaker behind it, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Roland Emmerich scrapped early Independence Day sequel about peace lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Quote “I’d never planned to make a sequel — I always felt that Independence Day was a standalone film,” I prefer it that way. Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Me too. And what spaceship rubble were they smoking when they were developing that idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Sounds like one of many stupid responses to 9/11. I read that and I was like, what the hell is going on?! My god in heaven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 So sue him! Justin! We've got a problem!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Woah, this is out next Thursday? And yet no news on the score. I'm looking forward to what Kloser comes up with for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 It's got a week to go and yet the buzz has been uncharacteristically and unexpectedly muted. Is Fox being deliberately discreet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Oh well another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I remember when ID4 first came out, recognizing the voice that Brent Spiner uses when the alien is speaking through him, same as one he used in the TNG episode "Masks" when Data takes on various personalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 James Woods is in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Why would James Woods want to work in a Kwik-e-Mart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Who needs the Kwik-E-Mart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I doooooooooo... Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Well, err, I haven't listened to the soundtrack but it's available if you want to hear it. Unfortunately, the promising score soundbites may have been folly. This is every user review I could find on the soundtrack, not one positive comment amongst them: Quote it's pretty damned generic after all, but with a bit of fantasy and a modern sound...and NOT A TRACE of David Arnold's themes to be found. There's a theme, but it can't even touch Arnold's themes. I guess traces of the original are only in the "iD4 Reprise" track which would completely clash with the music in this score. Such a disconnect from what I can tell. Disappointed, and that's what I was expecting anyway. Quote One little half-hearted attempt to use the main theme, on strings in "We Are Rich" before the aforementioned "iD4 Reprise" which is just a 2 minute quickie arrangement of the original film's end title fanfare before the alien theme took over. All that iD4 Reprise track does is show what a lame score Kloser and Wander composed. It's a really good re-recording of Arnold's themes that puts this score to shame in a mere 2 minutes and 33 seconds. Quote I feel your pain. It is uninspiring. Quote last time i was so frustrated was when i got hemorrhoids Quote It's a lame score, nothing compare to Arnold. Quote Spot on analysis. What a dog this score is. The original film is a dumb-but-cheesy-fun ride, and Arnold's score is at least half of the reason why. I've absolutely no desire to see this new film now; with music this uninspired Quote I agree, this soundtrack is flat, no emotion, nothing except ID4 reprise, so I canceled my order and I m afraid about the movie Sadly, our fears appear to have been realised; it's another Kloser/Wanker yawnfest. Arnold's snub for this film is probably the most egregious scoring decision in recent memory. I can't even think of one that comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Did Roland Emmerich dislike working with David Arnold that much?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 If it's really as bad as all that and after Arnold went on record as being interested in returning to the series then I hope this movie is a massive failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 No plans to screen it for the press either, according to the rumour mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I've heard most of the score, and it's thoroughly unremarkable. I've struggled to identify any themes at all. It plays like a TV score to me - lots of standalone cues that by themselves are competent scoring, but there's nothing holding it together in terms of theme, style, or anything really. The cameos of Arnold's themes feel very strange. What Arnold would have given us is probably in a completely different league to this score. For Kloser's sake, I hope Emmerich is the guilty party here, and asked for a subtle approach. In fact, listening to this, it's easy to forget this is the same director who got the first score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 18, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2016 Exactly what I suspected; that the only real appearance of Arnold's stuff would be in ID4 Reprise. What a joke. I'm such a huge fan of Arnold. He is a treasure of a composer, and I asked him about Resurgence last year and he said "yeah sure I'm interested, but I haven't been asked." To me that is as big as if Disney just didn't ask Williams for the Force Awakens. His themes are that iconic for me. Pieter Boelen, Unlucky Bastard and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I wonder if it's possible to find out if Harald Kloser is a financial shareholder in Centropolis Entertainment? It'd explain a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 It's a rather sad step down, musically. Especially after all the rumours/reports that Emmerich felt he could get better than Arnold for The Patriot. Heck of a way to thank him for the toil Arnold went through for ID4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Like Alan Partridge though, Arnold will at least be having the last laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Everyone will compare it to Arnolds score and find it lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I was expecting it to be a bit lacking. This is almost embarrassingly lacking. JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 It's so horrendously bad, I wonder if they're actively trying to sabotage the film. JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I wouldn't call it 'bad'. It's a reasonable background listen if you're doing something else at the same time. It just needed to be so much more than that for a film like this, and in comparison to the first score, falls flat on its face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 On 6/10/2016 at 11:49 AM, Shatner's Rug said: Ah. Down Under, grading works like this: High Distinction (HD) - 85-100% Distinction (D) - 75-84% Credit (C) - 65-74% Pass (P) - 50-64% Fail (F) - 0-49% i like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: I wouldn't call it 'bad'. It's a reasonable background listen if you're doing something else at the same time. Unfortunately the movie crew feels that watching the film it's attached to is the something else you're doing at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 6 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Especially after all the rumours/reports that Emmerich felt he could get better than Arnold for The Patriot And he did! Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 We will never know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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