Smaug The Iron 515 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 What is your top ten favorite themes from Lord of the Rings and what is your top ten favorite themes from The Hobbit? SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smaug The Iron 515 Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 Just now, SafeUnderHill said: Nice thread idea, will get back with mine later. What are yours? LOTR. Fellowship History of the ring The Shire Rivendel Rohan Isengard Nature's reclamation Lothlorien Gondor Pity of Gollum Hobbit Baggins/Took Tauriel and Kili Bard's family Misty mountains Thorin Smaug House of Durin Bilbo's fussy theme Tauriel Lake-town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 What is my favorite themes from the Hobbit? Hmmm. I don't know what my favorite themes is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Love the Beorn stuff. It's so underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Aren't there already probably several threads about this? At any rate, I can't remember enough of the official designations of any of these to list them off anymore. But Nature's Reclamation, and theme which seems to call back to the ancient glories of Numenor (and its Fourth Age evolution) are some of my favorites. From the new films, I dig the unused Company theme and that very grave Dwarvish thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 11 hours ago, SafeUnderHill said: Although I think this is the best part of Beorn's theme: Imagine how awesome that would have been as Beorn attacks in Battle of the Five Armies. Imagine how awesome it would have been had Beorn performed any attacking of note in Battle of the Five Armies. Then we might have actually heard more of his material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Sadly Beorn seems like an afterthought with no real consequence in turning the tide of the battle. Once the eagles arrive it is aquilae ex machina mop-up operation after the battle which is over before the viewers know it. Shame that the little foreshadowing of Radagast getting their allies' help at the start of the movie doesn't amount to much. Musically it would have been a great possibility to bring Beorn's theme back into the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 That bit in the Chronicles book (can't remember if it was 5 or 6) left me dumbfounded. 'First he was in, then out, then in again' or words to that effect. Given that they bothered to extend his role in the DoS EE, I can't help but think that the plan changed big time. Hell, something must have changed after this: http://ew.com/article/2014/10/23/peter-jackson-hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies/ Look at how he talks about the Eagles. Look at the original plan (below, part of the same article) for the arrival of the Eagles and Beorn - he is last, separate from the Eagles. Everyone is surrounded in the middle, fighting together. There are Wargs heavily involved. It is how it should be. And it appears as though Bard, some Elves and some Dwarves were going to lead late counters to aid the surrounded in the middle. Had we got this it could have been magnificent. But everything changed, and for the worse (the article dates from October 2014 btw): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay 37,364 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 LOTR: 1 The History of the Ring 2 The Fellowship of the Ring 3 The Seduction of the Ring 4 A Hobbit's Understanding 5 Nature's Reclamation 6 The Journey There 7 Sauron's Theme 8 The Shire 9 Into The West 10 Rohan 11 Gondor 12 Rivendell 13 Lothlorien TH: 1 The Company (Shore's version) 2 Bilbo's Theme 3 Smaug 4 Misty Mountains 5 Erebor 6 The Woodland Realm 7 House of Durin 8 Radagast 9 Tauriel 10 Bard the Leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Though both one offs, I also must mention the breathtakingly sorrowful music that accompanies Faramir and company on their way out of Minas Tirith, and the first appearance of Shadowfax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Both some of those extra special moments in already special scores that are indescribably, purely "Middle-Earth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Yes, Shore almost scoring the book more than the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Actually, Shadowfax' music could really be the best music in the films. His appearance, Forth Eorlingas, and the alternate OST track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 This reminds me I should reserve a few hours to listen to the LotR trilogy again. It has been a while since I did that. And yes the music for Shadowfax' introduction in TTT is spot perfect, one of many of those brilliant individual standalone moments from these scores. Not only does Shore's music make the scene it actually captures something mythical and majestic about the character in a profound way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I love how the melody there opens with the first three notes of Rohan's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 LOTR 1. The Journey There 2. Gondor (esp. in Decline) 3. The Shire 4. The Grey Havens 5. A Hobbit's Understanding 6. Sauron/Evil of the Ring 7. Seduction of the Ring 8. What I call "The Waning of the Stewards"* 9. Nature's Reclamation/"Hope Unlooked For"** 10. The Pity of Gollum 1A. My two favorite musical moments in any of the Middle-Earth films are both one-offs: 3:53-4:37 of "The Breaking of the Fellowship" and the fall of Osgiliath (7:53-8:26 of "Osgiliath Invaded.") Hobbit 1. Goblintown 2. The Nine 3. Tauriel 4. Radagast 5. Laketown 6. Beorn 7. Mirkwood 8. Bard the Hero/Spotlight 9. Bilbo's Fussy Theme 10. The High Fells *Before the Annotated Scores and Doug's book, I considered the Faramir & Denethor Theme, The Witch-King, and the "miscellaneous Mordor music" in "The Tomb of the Stewards" all variations on the same basic idea. **I still prefer Marilyn's name for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,513 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 . Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The Hobbit has themes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Yes, many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Oh, I ment to write: The Hobbit has good themes? Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Yes, many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Absolutely. Jurassic Shark, your posts in this thread are troll-ish. Watch yourself. Bilbo and Dixon Hill 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Could someone please refer to the individual tracks with good themes? I want to be educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted March 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2019 http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/23907-the-themes-of-howard-shores-the-hobbit/ House of Durin, The Company's Main Theme, Bilbo's Theme, and the Tauriel/Kili love theme are pretty good Bilbo, Chen G., Smaug The Iron and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Which tracks contain the best presentations of The Company's Main Theme and Bilbo's Theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Company's Main Theme: Edge of the Wild Bilbo's Theme: either Axe or Sword (4:42-end) or Dreaming of Bag End Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2019 Really, all the Dwarvish material, in all six of these scores, is terrific. John, Smaug The Iron and The Illustrious Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Really, all the Dwarvish material, in all six of these scores, is terrific. What's the highlight cues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted March 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2019 On the Doorstep The Illustrious Jerry, Smaug The Iron and Chen G. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 515 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Sons of Durin The Illustrious Jerry and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Smaug the iron said: Sons of Durin That's just too much like Epic Trailer Music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smaug The Iron 515 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2019 It is great The Illustrious Jerry, Chen G. and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bofur01 245 Posted March 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2019 The Forest River is great. My Armour Is Iron, too Smaug The Iron, The Illustrious Jerry, Chen G. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, Bofur01 said: The Forest River is great. 2 hours ago, Jay said: On the Doorstep I used the Thorin material in both pieces as part of my intermission/entracte music between the different blurays. Works very well indeed. Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted March 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ignore my Tauriel love schtick for a second when I tell you that I genuinely love Shore's themes for her in DoS. Would have loved to hear them in BOFA. Czech out Flies and Spiders, The Forest River, and the second half of Beyond the Forest. Jurassic Shark, Chen G. and Smaug The Iron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Beyond the Forest!!! Smaug The Iron and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Oh, yeah, that's gorgeous. The Illustrious Jerry and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Jay said: Absolutely. Jurassic Shark, your posts in this thread are troll-ish. Watch yourself. Just this thread? Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, mstrox said: Czech out Flies and Spiders, The Forest River, and the second half of Beyond the Forest. The opening of Beyond the Forest is the most beautiful melody in all the Hobbit films. Its general excision from the scores remains both/either or Jackson and Shore's greatest sin! The Woodland theme, Bilbo's Theme, Radagast, Smaug, Tauriel and Laketown are all great follow-ups. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Oh, I love the opening, too! The entire track is a high point of The Hobbit's scores. I only mentioned the second half because Jurassic Shark was looking for specific examples of themes. Tauriel's theme doesn't pop up until the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 All the music associated with her in DOS is spectacular It's one of BOFA's many crimes that none of it was expanded up on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The first half does have the Kili+Tauriel theme, that is also hers in a way. Just 2 days ago I was almost sure I would need to think hard about possibly getting a possible Hobbit CR collection but damn, just this much mentioning of themes has reignited the memories and passion, these have a trove of great material. And in my head from memories I just noticed the segment in the full, unreleased Forest River following the heroic Thorin Theme is reprised in Sons of Dúrin after... the heroic Thorin's Theme. SUH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Holko said: just noticed the segment in the full, unreleased Forest River following the heroic Thorin Theme is reprised in Sons of Dúrin I think I know what you're talking about. I believe its a kind of action variation of the Erebor theme. Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Holko said: The first half does have the Kili+Tauriel theme, that is also hers in a way. Yea, it's considered the opening phrase of the love theme, but eventually just got dropped in favour of the Morricone-esque second phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I think I know what you're talking about. I believe its a kind of action variation of the Erebor theme. Now that you say it, yeah, I can hear it in my head. Built on its opening at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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