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47 minutes ago, Amer said:
The problem is some of us have OCD complex. So if we find out that this new one is slightly better then last one THEN we have to get it.
Exactly!
But I don't count myself among those. There will be some minor improvements, obviously, as LLL clearly stated as much (remastered, a few seconds added here and there, differently mixed, etc.) but I will most likely not get this edition for once.
Some people are not just OCD but borderline obsessive about it... It's unhealthy. They aren't even enjoying the music anymore, I bet. They spend all their time obsessing and nitpicking and spreading bad mood.
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9 minutes ago, crumbs said:
I am referring to A.I.
The first pressing of the reissue had 4 or 5 tracks included that weren't on the original 3CD set released in 2015. They accidentally sent the wrong master to the manufacturer (and it had several tracks Williams had, presumably, asked to be removed).
Again, we're talking about the differences between the original 2015 release and the 2021 (correct) re-issue... There is no difference. What they accidentally included and later removed is not of any concern. I don't need to have that, couldn't care less about that.
- crumbs, Chewy and Manakin Skywalker
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3 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said:
I find really sad to see so much people complaining about those reissues. I get it that people are still expecting unreleased or never expanded scores but to see our to speciality labels predicting those bashing on such releases (quoting LLL "In the mean time, commence with the complaints in 3,2,..." and Intrada jocking about "Another expansion? Why couldn't they release something entirely new that if it was easy to release would have been released already?") really show how much spoiled we are.
We should be grateful to them to always do their best to bring light to our beloved scores, they are not big corporation trying to get richier each month on our backs with poorly made products. There is love and passion in their works and clearly no wish to disrespect their fans
Nobody's really complaining...
People are just wondering what the new improvements are. Not complaining, but more puzzled and confused.
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1 hour ago, Amer said:
The official 20th Anniversary issue is the same program as the previous set. It's just that they used the wrong master for disc 1&3 which has alternate versions and a few cues which aren't on the actual Program. They had to repress and delete that stock when they realised the error. But by that time many copies had shipped out. You will have to dig up the AI threads to get the full details.
Ah okay. But you gotta be a sound engineer to notice that kind of an error...
Anyway, I'm not that OCD. I'm perfectly happy with the original AI set from LLL.
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6 minutes ago, igger6 said:
I am in this exact boat, and I will almost certainly buy this. And I agree about classics being perpetually in print—so somebody reissue Heidi already!For those who missed the 2016 release, this is certainly good news.
But the question is, what miniscule changes will they offer us in this new package. This is starting to look like a cheap gimmick. Anybody who got the 2016 release now have to decide whether to get this new edition because of a new remaster or 10 seconds of "never before released orchestral fade-in"... Or something like that.
But with all that said, my opinion about the music doesn't change a bit. I still love this classic soundtrack, which is vintage John Williams!
10 hours ago, Amer said:I think the last reissue AI was rather an interesting one. Glad I got that rare version in time.
Wait. Was there any difference between the 20th Anniversary Edition of the expanded A.I. and the regular expanded A.I.?
I thought it was the exact same content...
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17 minutes ago, mstrox said:
?????????
It has sold many copies due to the success of the movie, yes. But trust me, hardly anybody has read it. Relatively speaking. Maybe 30% of the copies sold have been read from cover to cover. If that.
And that number is even lower for TLW, the novel.
23 minutes ago, lairdo said:Agreed though that the link between the soundtrack and book is pretty tenuous.
I don't buy that at all. But whatever. The cover is not the issue, anyway.
The real question is what the changes are, when it comes to the music. I'm waiting for LLL to release additional info.
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8 minutes ago, Bespin said:
Double dipping is a thing that can kill the fans, I can talk hours about what the late widow of Roy Orbison, Barbara, did and how she lost the fans (to the bootleg and piracy market) by releasing tons of CD compilations containing often just one new unreleased song each.
Speak for yourself!
This won't change my love for John Williams and his music! Not one bit.
That said, I may or may not buy this release. Depends on the details LLL is planning to release soon.
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25 minutes ago, GlastoEls said:
I guess the question is: is that the same as the expanded 2016 edition?
Well, it specifically says "new and improved"...
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Actually I was only half joking...
Because seriously, how can you improve on the 2016 release? I can't think of anything!
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What the heck is this?
There can't be any more musical, right? The 2016 release was complete. Better sound quality? Doubtful.
And what's this black and white cover? Looks almost like an unofficial demo or something...
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4 hours ago, Thor said:
I believe I/we have gone into some of our lists and reasonings in the official JNH thread already, but a recap:
James Newton Howard is one of my top 10 favourite film composers of all time. I met and interviewed him in 2013, in Ghent, Belgium. Up to and including THE VILLAGE, he could almost do no wrong, whether it was orchestral stuff or synth-driven material. His early, pre-film music shenanigans with the Toto crowd are neat too. And Elton John. Etc.
But then after THE VILLAGE in 2004, it's been rather uneven. Many scores have had great individual tracks, no doubt about it, but rarely come together as works with consistent quality throughout. That changed with A HIDDEN LIFE in 2019 -- the best score that year, a return to form and JNH's best since the aforementioned THE VILLAGE (and kinda in the same style). After that, it's been back to the uneven stuff again (you need a clever programming hand to make scores like RAYA work on a reasonably good level, for example).
My top 10 JNH:
1. WATERWORLD ("Swimming" is one of the greatest film music cues ever written, IMO)
2. Snow Falling on Cedars
3. The Saint of Fort Washington
4. A Hidden Life
5. The Village
6. Falling Down
7. Restoration
8. Wyatt Earp
9. Dinosaur
10. Promised Land
Or something.
This is amazing!
Here's a whole new composer (at least for me), whose works I now may start exploring....
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Do you like his works? What are your favourite JNH scores (if you have any at all)?
I only know The Fugitive, which is pretty cool, and the theme from the TV series ER, which is awesome!
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15 hours ago, Jay said:
Just opened this thread for the first time
Went to vote in the poll
The poll is closed?
Why is the poll closed?Sorry, must have accidentally hit the close button. It's open again!
17 hours ago, Sibelius6 said:Why can't I vote? Is the poll closed already or am I banned or something?
Would have voted for Potter, no brainer.
It's open again.
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2 hours ago, Holko said:
JW uses it in The Cowboys, too.
Which track? Timestamp?
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1 hour ago, filmmusic said:
I'm not really a fan of franchises (I think 3 is enough for a composer to score), so I'd say none!
So you're not a fan of Star Wars?
Okay, gotcha.
2 hours ago, King Mark said:it's not really a tough poll .HP by 1000%
Well, it's tough for me, because I love both franchises (almost) equally...
9 hours ago, Bespin said:John Williams doesn't score inferior sequels!
(just remembered he scored Jaws 2)
Jaws 2, the score, is not really inferior. The movie, yes, but the score, no.
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Interesting.... It's likely some kind of percussion, not an instrument that can play notes.
But its sound is so perfectly fitting!
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If it's an instrument at all. Maybe a synthesiser?
Anyway, I'm talking about the track "Spilling Petrol and Horning In" at 0:04. The sound that's like the low moaning of an ailing Triceratops, almost...
What is this? Anybody know? It is heard more than once throughout this piece.
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10 minutes ago, Thor said:
He, he...just too old to have a childhood nostalgia connection to it. I think the films are fine, and the Williams scores wonderful (esp. 3), but JURASSIC PARK level enthusiasm, it's not.
Yeah, that's actually true for me as well...
I think I was 18 when PS came out.
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3 minutes ago, Thor said:
JURASSIC PARK, of course. I only have a very casual relationship to everything Harry Potter, as I was 24 years old when the first film premiered.
That's great, but...
You make 24 sound like 64 or something.
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38 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:
I wasn't joking. I'd be very interested in JW or Doyle's scores for HP5-8. Desplat isn't bad at all, though, but Hooper needs to go.
Maybe you didn't understand this poll? If JW had kept scoring...
So he'd have scored the entire franchise. No other composer would have been involved.
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AMISTAD (1997) - NEW! 2-CD 25th Anniversary Expanded Edition produced by Mike Matessino (2022)
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Wow, what fantastic news. I've come to really appreciate these scores to the historical Steven Spielberg movies, even more so now than when they were first released... I'm especially talking about Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, War Horse, Lincoln, Empire of the Sun, and Amistad.
Not always easy listens, but something profoundly moving and fundamentally compelling about these scores, reverberating deep within our souls and hearts.... Music for the ages, as it were.